paid SBTN + free VTV4 on one dish?

[alehap]

hi all,

I have paid subscription to DTV SBTN with dtv's receiver. I have pansat 2500A and want to get VTV4. I have no dish yet. Can I get both SBTV & VTV4 one one dish? A motorized dish maybe? Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks.

[rainman]

go with the M1 system sold by Sadoun and add a invacom qph-031 lnbf should be able to receive it with no problems. also you will need a disqec switch.

[bobkat]

Originally Posted by rainman

go with the M1 system sold by Sadoun and add a invacom qph-031 lnbf should be able to receive it with no problems. also you will need a disqec switch.

VTV4 is on IA5 at 97 degrees and SBTN is on G3C at 95 degrees. He will need two separate coax cables from the dish - so scrap the DiSEqC switch. His DTV receiver will not control a motor - so scrap the M1 system. His best bet is to put up a 90 cm dish (stationary) with a linear LNB and point it at IA5 (97); then get a circular LNB and tie-wrap to to the linear LNB to pull in DTV on G3C. This is assuming that all he wants from Directv is SBTN.

kat

[rainman]

Originally Posted by bobkat

VTV4 is on IA5 at 97 degrees and SBTN is on G3C at 95 degrees. He will need two separate coax cables from the dish - so scrap the DiSEqC switch. His DTV receiver will not control a motor - so scrap the M1 system. His best bet is to put up a 90 cm dish (stationary) with a linear LNB and point it at IA5 (97); then get a circular LNB and tie-wrap to to the linear LNB to pull in DTV on G3C. This is assuming that all he wants from Directv is SBTN.

kat

but the pansat will move a motor kat.and he stated he had one for the vtv 4 channel.I agree he doesn't need the disqec switch.and with the invacom he can get circular and linear signals but yes he would need to run 2 cables.

[bobkat]

Originally Posted by rainman

but the pansat will move a motor kat.and he stated he had one for the vtv 4 channel.I agree he doesn't need the disqec switch.and with the invacom he can get circular and linear signals but yes he would need to run 2 cables.

True, but if all he is interested in getting is VTV4 and SBTN then its hardly worth the added expense of a motorized system. But we really don't know what he wants to pull in. Maybe more...

kat

[rainman]

Originally Posted by bobkat

True, but if all he is interested in getting is VTV4 and SBTN then its hardly worth the added expense of a motorized system. But we really don't know what he wants to pull in. Maybe more...

kat

thats the way it works kat when you get a little you always want more.LOL

[bobkat]

Originally Posted by rainman

thats the way it works kat when you get a little you always want more.LOL

Really? So that's why my liquor cabinet is always empty...

kat

[rainman]

Originally Posted by bobkat

Really? So that's why my liquor cabinet is always empty...

kat

thats why you need a bigger cabinet. or make your own that way you won't run out.

[bobkat]

Originally Posted by rainman

thats why you need a bigger cabinet. or make your own that way you won't run out.

HeHeHe.... I don't know - my liquor cabinet already fills up one whole wall in my family room... Perhaps I will start making my own -

kat

[alehap]

Originally Posted by bobkat

VTV4 is on IA5 at 97 degrees and SBTN is on G3C at 95 degrees. He will need two separate coax cables from the dish - so scrap the DiSEqC switch. His DTV receiver will not control a motor - so scrap the M1 system. His best bet is to put up a 90 cm dish (stationary) with a linear LNB and point it at IA5 (97); then get a circular LNB and tie-wrap to to the linear LNB to pull in DTV on G3C. This is assuming that all he wants from Directv is SBTN.

kat

Thanks bobkat & rainman!
Good to know that DTV receiver doesn't control a mortor.
Invacom qph-031 lnbf is a good option.
So, I will have to run 2 cables to 2 receivers. With M2 system and Invacom qph-031 lnbf, if i want to watch SBTN, I can use pansat to move the dish to 95 then watch it on DTV receiver. Does it work like that?
I like to be able to get more FTA channels than just VTV4.
I maybe wrong, but doesn't SBTN use a linear lnb? DTV's international dish has 2 lnb, circular one is for local channels, linear one is for SBTN. Please enlightened me on this.

Thanks.

[rainman]

Originally Posted by alehap

Thanks bobkat & rainman!
Good to know that DTV receiver doesn't control a mortor.
Invacom qph-031 lnbf is a good option.
So, I will have to run 2 cables to 2 receivers. With M2 system and Invacom qph-031 lnbf, if i want to watch SBTN, I can use pansat to move the dish to 95 then watch it on DTV receiver. Does it work like that?
I like to be able to get more FTA channels than just VTV4.
I maybe wrong, but doesn't SBTN use a linear lnb? DTV's international dish has 2 lnb, circular one is for local channels, linear one is for SBTN. Please enlightened me on this.

Thanks.

yes it looks like SBTN use's a linear lnb. you should also find alot of free channels on IA5. yes on the 2 cables and the pansat moves the dish to 95 then use the direct receiver for the program.

[wejones]

If the DTV subscription is just the G3 things, then I don't think you need 2 cables for this. I assume that the Pansat has a passthru. Ie just run the passthru to the DTV box. The Pansat can control the dish.
I've run these signals into my Twinhan off the passthru of my Fortec, and it works fine.
Only problem I would see, is that sometimes DTV receivers needs to see more than one sat or more than one polarity, or it can't get authorized properly. I know that when my DTV receiver lost it's lnb power, I was powering my 3 satellite DTV dish with my Fortec, and using the 22KHz to switch sats to get my locals on 119, and switching polarity on the DTV dish using the Fortec too. Ie I had 4 channels programmed on the Fortec, ie 13V,18V,13V22KHz, 18V22KHz. Worked OK, except that if I would tune to 119, the receiver didn't think I was authorized, and wouldn't let me tune in the locals. It was necessary for me to first tune in the main 101 satellite to receive authorization, and then switch to 119 on one polarity, wait for a while then switch polarity on 119. It seemed like they kept their authorization streams, on different sats and polarity from the locals I wanted to receive. It sometimes got complicated, and I never completely figured out exactly what order was necessary, but I got it working.
But I guess my question is, if this SBTN subscription can be received by only looking at G3, on one polarity, then there shouldn't be a problem doing everything with one cable, but if this subscription requires tuning in the main DTV sat, and/or switching polarity, it might get complicated.
Ie is the paid DTV subscription to more than just the G3 stuff? Ie if you need to receive the 101 sat or some other DTV sat, too, then things can get pretty complicated.

[bobkat]

Originally Posted by alehap

...I maybe wrong, but doesn't SBTN use a linear lnb?

No, you are right. I got so excited thinking about rainman's moonshine, I lost my mind - just for a moment...

kat

[rainman]

Originally Posted by bobkat

No, you are right. I got so excited thinking about rainman's moonshine, I lost my mind - just for a moment...

kat

time for a run south kat.