That's true spyder...
the few channels that are available FTA can be received with the Motorola Sidecar model DSR-905. It runs around $200 or less and can be used as a slave to an analog
C-Band receiver -- the C-Band receiver moves the dish and loops throught the LNB feed to the DSR-905. I had one for awhile until this dude offered me more than I paid for it -- so of course I sold it!! :wink: Thing is -- you have to get the DSR-905 authorized by Motorola in order to download the channel map -- so you need to subscribe to at least one pay channel in order to get the unit authorized.
kat