For multiple satellites, must I manually adjust the dish????

[m4pp1n6]

I have the HH100 Stab motor, but I'm still trying to understand all this.

It is all set for Telstar 5, but to get other satellites, do I have to manually adjust the elevation of the dish?

m4pp1n6

[ZzeusS]

Elevation, no. All the the satellites we use are in the Clarke Belt. This is a line that extends across the horizon, East to West. once you get your dish lined up correctly, it only moves East or West, to pick another sat. this is called Azimuth. The rotor changes the Azimuth of the dish. The elevation is what you set your dish to and lock in, in degrees, at the base of the dish behind it, on the pole. You lock that down. It never moves once you get it locked down.

This is the way I understand it - my set in on order and I have not done an install yet.

[bobkat]

Yup - that's pretty much it. The elevation is automatically set by the design of the motor assembly itself so that as the dish moves east or west across the Clarke Belt, elevation changes are made by the motor. Same thing applies to LNB skew or tilt.

kat

[m4pp1n6]

Gracias!
That is a question I have somehow been unable to articulate - but it is necessary for a beginner to understand.

So if I am not able to lock in on any other satellites, this is likely an issue with how the dish/motor was installed, right? Whew.

Thanks.

[dtsexpert]

You need to find your true south sat since it is the center of the arc. Don't expect to aim the dish to one sat and get the rest. Read the instruction of how to set up H-H mount in this website. It covers pretty much all of the details.

Originally Posted by m4pp1n6

I have the HH100 Stab motor, but I'm still trying to understand all this.

It is all set for Telstar 5, but to get other satellites, do I have to manually adjust the elevation of the dish?

m4pp1n6

[DruzeTito]

So basically, your true south will have the highest elevation and as the azimuth moves east or west, the distance is longer and the elevation lowers, same for the tilt.

[m4pp1n6]

dtsexpert,

If I manually set the dish for one satellite, why won't it automatically get others?

Once I have the dish correctly aimed at, let's say, Telstar4, then I'd screw that up by moving it to target Galaxy10R, right?

I'm not quite sure what I need to do, once I'm receiving a satellite just fine, to get another satellite.

I know I need to enter the information into the receiver - transponder data, V/H, symbol rate, etc. - but when I do this, I still get nothing.

I get Telstar5, but no other satellites...and from what I can tell all the data I've put into the receiver is correct.

Should I try adjusting the elevation mildly? See, I don't understand how I can program the receiver/motor to move to other satellites without me having to climb a ladder and adjust the satellite.

I've ordered a meter finder in case I need to actually adjust the dish.

m4pp1n6@hotmail.com

[DruzeTito]

you must read all that you can around sadoun's site to set up the stab motor. I don't have a motor dish but what you need to do is find your TRUE SOUTH heading, and then from there find the southernmost satellite you can receive. Then somewhere in the reciever settings you need to put your lat and long in. And then, the USALS function will find any satellite on the clarke belt.

[DruzeTito]

In addition, you must use sadoun's calculator to calculate the the DISH ELEVATION value and the MOTOR MOUNT value. Find here http://www.sadoun.com/Sat/Products/STAB/HH100.htm

[bobkat]

Originally Posted by m4pp1n6

without me having to climb a ladder and adjust the satellite.

:!: :!: :!: If you have a ladder that will reach the satellite I'm sure NASA would like to borrow it !!!! :lol: :lol:

All kidding aside ---- you must configure your receiver to recognize a motor - either through the USALS function or the DiSEqC 1.2 function; then the receiver will automatically tell the motor to move to a particular satellite depending on the channel you select. Have you checked to see that the motor is actually moving? If it is and if you cannot get signal for any satellite other than T5 then the dish is mistracking the arc -- you must make sure, as DruzeTito says, that the zero mark on the motor is aligned with the middle of the dish and is pointing due south - not magnetic south.

Read sadoun's instructions on motor installation - they are well written and easy to understand.

kat



:wink:

[ZzeusS]

I'm having trouble with my Stab hh120 with a Fortec 786 as well. Lets go over some basic stuff in case I'm missing something:

How far should the dish actually move? Telstar 5 is not the best test in the world for me, because I am in the midwest, and when I select it, the motor grinds for a few seconds and kind of waves back and forth around the zero mark before getting T5. And I get T5 just fine. When I select something FAR to the east, just to get the motor to turn the dish, it doesn't do it. It still hangs around 0 and waves back and forth, then stops. If I put it to T4 or T6, if I look at the motor as it works the dish, it still looks like it's barely gone off the zero mark, if it actually went anywhere at all. I can't find anywhere in the Fortec to manually tell the Stab HH120 'Go to 30 east'. I have a longer then normal cable going from the LNB to the Motor, just because I don't have a 2 foot RG6 cable yet. It's around 20 feet maybe. It's coiled at the base of the mount. AFAIK the attentuation for RG6 is much much longer than 20 feet.. is the Fortec trying to use some kind of spotting signal and failing?

[bobkat]

If the motor seems to be not moving at all, make sure the EAST and WEST limits have not been set in the receiver. Clear the limits and try to manually move the dish east and west to see if the motor responds. Its unlikely that 20 feet of cable would cause the control voltage to fail.

kat

[ZzeusS]

Do you use a Fortec, bobkat? Where would I look for something like that?

[bobkat]

Actually no; but I've set up many other brands of receiver and I'm sure they are all pretty much the same.

In the SATELLITE SETUP or DISH SETUP menu look for options on what type of LNB is used; typically it will say something like LNB1, LNB2, etc.; look for a feature called DiSEqC 1.2 or MOTOR; then go into that menu and look for LIMITS and MOVE DISH MANUALLY or something to that effect.

kat

[ZzeusS]

Roger I'll check it and the book when I get home tonight. Thanks.

[RAMBO]

I am having the same difficulty. My receiver is a fortec 6000, East and West limits are for motors other than Stabb. Once you indicate in your receiver Disqec 1.3, East and West cannot be set or move the dish. I hate it. Since I purchased, installed in concrete block, aimed with success after a hard time, got on the arc, was able to program several satellites, the motor decides to stop functioning, period. Not happy at all, and still no success. I definetely have second guess about the complete equipment performance and reliability.

[bobkat]

Originally Posted by RAMBO

My receiver is a fortec 6000, East and West limits are for motors other than Stabb. Once you indicate in your receiver Disqec 1.3, East and West cannot be set or move the dish.

:?:

East and west limits should be for any type of motor. Is DiSEqC 1.3 the only option on the Fortec 6000? That seems strange.

:?:

kat

[Sadoun]

RAMBO

Use the options in the DISEQC 1.2 screen to set your East/West Limits.

[ZzeusS]

Ahh, that must be it. In the DISEQC 1.3 section you can't set it. I'll go into the DISEQC 1.2 section tonight.

[RAMBO]

I am currently away, once I get back home I will try it again. I know I have tried what you suggested Sadoun, with no response from receiver or dish positioner when using disqec 1.2. Strangely, I have made the dish move with disqec1.3 without ever setting up East or West, then why did it work a while? I pressume if you use this setup you should be able to move or manua