please help

dhionis · #1 (**permalink**) 06-16-2007, 12:30 PM

somebodi help with vision plus 1020a satellite pci card and digipower sg2100 motor i install the dish ok i testet and i find my tru south then i check the satellite signal is ok i open the dvbdream or twinhandtv i scan the first satellite amc3 87.1w everythink ok but i cant move the motor from the positioner console i try everything with or without usals diseq comand nothing the drive east or west button are not working manual working fine i have 500 watt power supply so if somebody know help me please

dhionis · #2 (**permalink**) 06-17-2007, 11:14 AM

i read somomewhere in the forum for thi pci power do somebody know how to check that and how to find if the problem is the pci slot i have gigabyte GA-K8NSC-939 MOTHERBOARD,1.5 mb ddr ram,amd athlon 64 3200+ cpu,sata hard drive,nvidia fx550 graphic card,500w power supply.help please

wejones · #3 (**permalink**) 06-17-2007, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by dhionis

i read somomewhere in the forum for thi pci power do somebody know how to check that and how to find if the problem is the pci slot i have gigabyte GA-K8NSC-939 MOTHERBOARD,1.5 mb ddr ram,amd athlon 64 3200+ cpu,sata hard drive,nvidia fx550 graphic card,500w power supply.help please

I was about to respond to your first post, because I found that my 1020a had problems with diseqC signals when I had an underpowered power supply, but when I saw that you had a 500W, I figured that wasn't the problem. In my case, I hooked up an oscilloscope to the coax connection, and could see the Twinhan's voltage, and could also see the 22khz signals going out when it was sending DiseqC commands either to a switch or motor. In my case everything was fixed when I switched to a bigger power supply (I forget what power, but it's less than 500W).

However in reading your second message, something else caught my eye. In my computer, I have several hard drives. Most of them, including the C drive that my sat programs run off are EIDE drives, however I also have one SATA drive. I don't know if this is something to do with my setup (likely) or if this is a problem with the Twinhan card, however I have found that any time I access the SATA drive, that the Twinhan card stops working. As soon as the transfer is done, the Twinhan starts working again. I have to be careful not to access the SATA drive when I'm making a recording from the Twinhan. I don't know if that's your problem.... probably not, if it is working other than the motor commands, but it might be something to experiment with.

dhionis · #4 (**permalink**) 06-17-2007, 10:48 PM

what pc you have man?i change the hard drive from sata to ata100 and nothing still the same problem drive west and east button not working.can you plaese tell me how you search the satellite i mean the positioner console you just go there and drive the dish with drive west or east button or you do something else first?

wejones · #5 (**permalink**) 06-18-2007, 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by dhionis

what pc you have man?i change the hard drive from sata to ata100 and nothing still the same problem drive west and east button not working.can you plaese tell me how you search the satellite i mean the positioner console you just go there and drive the dish with drive west or east button or you do something else first?

Sorry that the SATA thing didn't work. I guess it was a long shot. Re how I used the Twinhan to move the dish, unfortunately, I wasn't using the Twinhan software. I was using a program called THMOVER, which you can get at:
http://www.dvbapps.com/downloads/
THMOVER is a handy application for when searching for sats, because it has fairly fast acting meters. You can type in the freq/sr then bump the dish along while watching a fairly fast response meter. I used this to find sats, then used it to store DiseqC1.2 positions into my motor. It's nice, because it allowed me to use the first 25 pre-set positions that were excluded by my Lifetime receiver, since I was running short of sat numbers.
Anyway, this was the only time I used the Twinhan to move the dish, but it worked just fine. Other programs shouldn't be any different, but sometimes the more complicated software is harder to use. Give THMOVER a try. Very simple.

dhionis · #6 (**permalink**) 06-18-2007, 11:45 AM

same nothing i can not move the dish drive east and west buttons not working some time usals work butt for one move and nothing else.i do not know if is twinhan problem or pc problem.

wejones · #7 (**permalink**) 06-18-2007, 12:29 PM

One other possibility. Your software should have DiseqC1.2 commands that disable LIMITS. Some times the limits get set wrong and the motor won't move. If you disable the limits, then manually move the dish to the proper place for the limits, and re-set the limits, this usually solves the problem. If your software doesn't have the Disable Limits command, the TSREADER does, but most software that do DiseqC1.2 will have this command.

Another possibility, if you are trying to use USALS, is that you've accidently used East instead of West where it asks you for your longitude or the sat's longitude.

dhionis · #8 (**permalink**) 06-19-2007, 10:34 AM

nothing still the same disable limits and enable manuali again and nothing drive east and west button not working

wejones · #9 (**permalink**) 06-19-2007, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by dhionis

nothing still the same disable limits and enable manuali again and nothing drive east and west button not working

Strange.

Does the coax from the Twinhan go directly to the SG2100, or is it going through some switch or meter or something of that sort? How long is the coax?

dhionis · #10 (**permalink**) 06-19-2007, 12:11 PM

no the cable is 10 feet (3m) long and is connectet directly to sg2100 i can"t even do restart the sg2100 i push both button but nothing and i don"t know if is pci slot problem or twinhan problem or sg2100 problem do you understand now?i don"t know what to do how to find the problem and how to test the sg2100,visionplus 1020a,pci slot

wejones · #11 (**permalink**) 06-19-2007, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by dhionis

no the cable is 10 feet (3m) long and is connectet directly to sg2100 i can"t even do restart the sg2100 i push both button but nothing and i don"t know if is pci slot problem or twinhan problem or sg2100 problem do you understand now?i don"t know what to do how to find the problem and how to test the sg2100,visionplus 1020a,pci slot

I think I'm out of ideas, other than maybe trying to move the dish while tuned to both H and V transponders, to get different voltage levels at the motor. If it were me, I'd try hooking up to another receiver, however if this is the only receiver you have, you don't have many options.