No signal at all

[taveechai]

I installed as directions, but I don't see any signal on screen. Question is, If I put the dish (let say close to the suppose-to-be position) close enough, I should see some signal, right? But I saw None. Could it be bad receiver?

Later that day, I went out to buy SatAlign 2(signal strength finder) plug it in between LNB and receiver. It didn't show any light. Was it supposed to light even if I plug in only the receiver side? It didn't have any light on? I could only think that Could it be receiver problem?

anyone can explain..

Matt

[taveechai]

What if I got a Bad LNB, How can I tell if it's a bad one?

thanks

[pmb1010]

No probably not (well 99 percent) sure it's not lnb or receiver.
Everybody thinks that when they start.

These are very touchty to setup. You must follow the install instructions to a T - and be very patient. The spot you are trying to find is the size of a golf ball at 50 yards. 1/8" will lose the signal.

It is NOT like setting up a Dish network or Direct TV dish. Those when you get close you get some signal. These things are you have to be pretty much right on the right spot to get signal quality level.

Do a bit more reading, especially the install forums. Lots of similar posts on what to do to setup.

Good luck - let us know how you make out. Lots of guys here can help.

[rainman]

what type of dish , lnb, and receiver are you using.

[taveechai]

Fortec Star PLATINUM CI Digital Satellite Receiver
FS80P 31" Fortec
ULN2: Sadoun UNIVERSAL Linear DUAL Ku 0.4 dB LNBF
Live in Gardena, CA

I have leveled the post, and set the dish to 132 degree from North, and elevation about 45 degree. still no signal (0%)
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ps: with a Sat Signal Finder, Do I have to connect the LNB side to get it working? I tried to connect it both side but, it didn't have the light on. I want to eliminate problems one by one.

[rainman]

try changing the elevation on the dish up or down by 5 degrees these Fortec dishes have been known to be off that much on the scale.

[taveechai]

I have tried every angles I could to try to get the signal, still no success.
Question now is, Is the Signal Finder supposed to make sound when you connect it from the Sat Receiver (just one side)? It doesn't do that when I connect it. How can I check if the receiver gives any power out to the Sat Finder or LNB?

Anyone who has Sat finder, please help me.

check out my setting at
http://www.bangkoksamurai.com/sat.html

[pmb1010]

You are doing everything right, from the pics you show. The only thing might be the scale on the dish, sometimes that edge/bolt thing does now show the right value. Sometimes you need to go up to 50 or down to 40 to find the sat...

did you take your receiver out next to your dish, hooked up with very short cables and a small tv?

It's impossible to aim the dish without watching the quality/lock signal level while you move the dish in very small increments.

[taveechai]

Can you answer me this question? I never had a signal finder. Is it supposed to make any sound when you connect it to the receiver? If it is, then my receiver has a problem, right?

thanks

[pmb1010]

I dont know. Never had one.

Always used the recievers indicator bar as my signal meter.

[taveechai]

I asked another person to be in the room to watch the signal (communicated with walkie talkie). It was none, Can it be the receiver problem? If it was your case, what would you do to check to eliminate problems?

[pmb1010]

although doing the walkie talkie thing is possible it makes it very diffilcult to set this up.
The aiming spot is very small and easy to miss.

If it was my setup I'd take a small tv and receiver out to the dish and do the adjustments there.

[Jim-S]

Installing your satellite dish and receiver - DIY INSTALLATION SUPPORT

Have you viewed this site....
You don't say if you have a motor or not but you will fine both setups here.

[pmb1010]

one of his postings had a link to external pic hosting site, and some pictures.

The install looks good.
Shows the sat pointing in right direction (like the compass shot!)

Its a stationary dish - no motor.

[taveechai]

I finally got it working, I bought a new Signal Finder today. It's working now. I appreciated all your helps and efforts. Sorry for the mess, first I thought I could be some other problems.

By the way, could you recommend a portable TV for me? I will buy one on EBAY for next time installing.

Thanks so much,
Now I can sleep.

[pmb1010]

so what what the issue?

What fell into place (so we can share with other folks having similar issues!)

[Jim-S]

You should be able to find a 13'" digital tube type tv for about 100 bucks at most big stores.
I have to get one someday, right now I use a 25" tube type Tv needless to say it's a bit awkward.

[taveechai]

After I bought this signal finder, it showed sign of working (Pitch sound) even I connected just one side to the receiver (in the Antenna setup mode). Then I connected other side, it made more sense (the gauge went from 0 to 100). From that point, I went outside and followed direction of signal finder. Turn out I just needed to adjust a little bit more from what I set to get the peak signal. This new position made a peak sound. I locked that position. I then went back to my room, re-scanned the satellites. It just worked. Got signal 66% or more and my day was over.

I'm happy with the result, thank guys.

[rainman]

congrats taveechai glad to here you got it going.