USALS

misterdk2 · #1 (**permalink**) 10-17-2005, 10:40 PM

I'm getting ready to install my equipment...Fortec 90cm dish, Invacom QPH-031 and STAB HH-100 motor with a Pansat 2700A receiver. I'm planning on using USALS and I'm wondering how many of you have used this to setup your systems and what your experience has been. Thanks in advance.

alpha4 · #2 (**permalink**) 10-25-2005, 07:12 PM

Your setup is pretty generic...you shouldn't have any problem. I suggest you begin with a KU sat with weak signal and let USALS find the rest.

Good Luck

misterdk2 · #3 (**permalink**) 10-25-2005, 08:21 PM

Thanks for your reply. Anybody else? I'll let the board know how it goes.

DruzeTito · #4 (**permalink**) 10-25-2005, 08:36 PM

dont be suprised if using USALS doesnt let you move anymore than 65w to 65 E. Why they have this in effect i don't know.

But im not sure the limits of the max west and east from the motor itself. I know for the SG2100A it can be configuired 80 degrees from Horizon to horizon but by default it is set to 70.

Also, USALS is the best way to pinpoint the tracking of your arc

misterdk2 · #5 (**permalink**) 10-25-2005, 08:49 PM

Thanks for your input Druze. Here's what happened today in my ongoing saga to find an installer. A nice lady at Toner Cable in Hatboro, PA recommended All Systems Audio & Video. I left a message for their installer and here's how the conversation went when he called me back.
I told him that I wanted my dish and motor aligned to pick up multiple satellites and he said, and I quote, "It can't be done". He said he's never seen it done by anyone. I asked if he could align the dish to pick up a single satellite and he said yes he could but he couldn't pick up a second satellite "even if it was right next to it and had a strong signal". He went on to say that I'd never pick up anything (other than 110 and 119) with just a 3-foot dish. He said that if I was in the middle of the country, then yes, I could pick up other sats but no way from Philadelphia with just a 3-foot dish. Everything would be snowy he says. I told him that I had previously had an 18" dish on my roof and I was getting 3 sats with that. He didn't believe me and said he'd "have to see it myself". I also have a friend in Canada, right on the Vermont border, who set up my receiver for me (some months ago) using the same 18" dish which he sent to me, and he was picking up 5 satellites from his location with the 18" dish. They were Echo 3, Nimiq 1, Echo 7, Echo 8.6.

So....according to "Mark" at All Systems, all the people I see posting on various satellite tv forums, people on the east coast who have the same equipment as I do and are receiving multiple satellites......well, they must all be liars. And, the companies that sell dish motors, and the companies that sell dishes to go with those motors to customers on the east coast, I guess they must all be scam artists, because, according to Mark they're selling people equipment for something that "can't be done".
This is pathetic. If I wasn't so stressed out about all this it would be funny.

DruzeTito · #6 (**permalink**) 10-25-2005, 09:12 PM

That's insane.. he must be a peasant from some mountain or something..

If you couldn't be able to surf multiple satellites then why the heck do HH motors exist??

And 3 foot dish is more than enough to pick up the available Ku linear satellites in north america from almost ANYWHERE in north america.

There's no snow in this digital satellite world. In digital, either you have good picture or choppy picture... no snow.. that was analog.

alfi · #7 (**permalink**) 10-25-2005, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by misterdk2

Thanks for your input Druze. Here's what happened today in my ongoing saga to find an installer. A nice lady at Toner Cable in Hatboro, PA recommended All Systems Audio & Video. I left a message for their installer and here's how the conversation went when he called me back.
I told him that I wanted my dish and motor aligned to pick up multiple satellites and he said, and I quote, "It can't be done". He said he's never seen it done by anyone. I asked if he could align the dish to pick up a single satellite and he said yes he could but he couldn't pick up a second satellite "even if it was right next to it and had a strong signal". He went on to say that I'd never pick up anything (other than 110 and 119) with just a 3-foot dish. He said that if I was in the middle of the country, then yes, I could pick up other sats but no way from Philadelphia with just a 3-foot dish. Everything would be snowy he says. I told him that I had previously had an 18" dish on my roof and I was getting 3 sats with that. He didn't believe me and said he'd "have to see it myself". I also have a friend in Canada, right on the Vermont border, who set up my receiver for me (some months ago) using the same 18" dish which he sent to me, and he was picking up 5 satellites from his location with the 18" dish. They were Echo 3, Nimiq 1, Echo 7, Echo 8.6.

So....according to "Mark" at All Systems, all the people I see posting on various satellite tv forums, people on the east coast who have the same equipment as I do and are receiving multiple satellites......well, they must all be liars. And, the companies that sell dish motors, and the companies that sell dishes to go with those motors to customers on the east coast, I guess they must all be scam artists, because, according to Mark they're selling people equipment for something that "can't be done".
This is pathetic. If I wasn't so stressed out about all this it would be funny.

misterdk2

I am very new to the FTA and with few problems in the beginning I was able the get AMC5 at 79 deg. W and Galaxy10R at 123 deg. W with a help of the friends from this forum. I am in Hartford, Connecticut.

Alfi

misterdk2 · #8 (**permalink**) 10-25-2005, 09:29 PM

Alfi, what kind of equipment are you using?

Admin · #9 (**permalink**) 10-26-2005, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by misterdk2

So....according to "Mark" at All Systems, all the people I see posting on various satellite tv forums, people on the east coast who have the same equipment as I do and are receiving multiple satellites......well, they must all be liars. And, the companies that sell dish motors, and the companies that sell dishes to go with those motors to customers on the east coast, I guess they must all be scam artists, because, according to Mark they're selling people equipment for something that "can't be done".
This is pathetic. If I wasn't so stressed out about all this it would be funny.

This Mark must be out of this world. :mozilla_laughing: But, again, I am not surprised. Many installers don't know anything about installing a motorized system. Most don't even know that there are other satellites than D* or E*. We get a lot of calls from customers asking about installers in their area because they couldn't find one that understands what they are talking about. Telstar what? IA what? USALS #-o HH Motor #-o

Some installers that even install FTA systems don't even know about UNIVERSAL lnbfs. So when they try to get a signal with their BIRDOG or Spectrum Analyzer, then don't see any signal (because they didn't use the proper settings for a UNIV lnbf). So they call us claiming the LNBF is defective. It takes us a couple of minutes to explain the LNBF difference, and then they realize their mistake or limited experiance. :mozilla_tongue:

alfi · #10 (**permalink**) 10-27-2005, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by misterdk2

Alfi, what kind of equipment are you using?

I am using Fortec Star 90cm (36") dish, Stab HH90 motor and Fortec Star Lifetime Classis NA receiver but I am exchanging the receiver for Fortec Star Lifetime Ultra.

Alfi

misterdk2 · #11 (**permalink**) 10-27-2005, 10:29 AM

[/quote]This Mark must be out of this world. :mozilla_laughing: But, again, I am not surprised. Many installers don't know anything about installing a motorized system. Most don't even know that there are other satellites than D* or E*. We get a lot of calls from customers asking about installers in their area because they couldn't find one that understands what they are talking about. Telstar what? IA what? USALS #-o HH Motor #-o [/quote]
AMEN to that!!

misterdk2 · #12 (**permalink**) 10-27-2005, 10:34 AM

Well, so much for my attempt to reply with a quote from a previous post. Just wanted to say that I have been trying for 3 months to find someone with experience to setup my motorized system without success. And this in the fifth largest city in the country. Anyone looking to start a business in Philly who knows how to do alignments, well you could probably make a fortune here with a little bit of advertising. Lots of people around with money to spend and I think the idea of picking up 10 or 15 satellites would appeal to a lot of people. It does to me.