stab hh90 can this motor be mounted upside down ?

smokinsiggy · #1 (**permalink**) 09-07-2005, 10:43 AM

:mozilla_frown: been trying to install hh90 on a starchoice 76cm dish . it appears that the dish mounting sleeve is too close to the back of dish , limiting the proper elev. angle . my lat. 49.1n & long.123.1w according to angle calcs. it should be 37.5-38deg. i've tryed all attempts to make her fit in the position mentioned and shown thru manual and all pics. veiwed at various sites. at this setting my dish sits in an extemely diferent angle to already set and working stable dish, i have set up. i've seen on this home page , a dish installed with rotors tube in the facing upward position . will this work and what changes on the positioning, if anything? thanks for the great site , you guys seem to have "THE ADVICE" more than all others .

pictureon · #2 (**permalink**) 09-07-2005, 11:18 PM

That would mess up the calculation. Instead of increasing the elevation when it supposed to, it would decrease it and you would get no signal on most satellites.

smokinsiggy · #3 (**permalink**) 09-08-2005, 11:05 AM

:mozilla_frown: thanks for the response to the issue mentioned earlier. i assumed that would happen , now i'm confused on the photo mentioned in the post . why would the pic. show such??? maybe i'll email stab with question, this chit got me all worked up ,just can't seem to get me elev. angle set right . trying not to modify the set up with adapter pipe or whatever . sounds like it will cause more confusion for me dumbass . lol cheers !

vj9999 · #4 (**permalink**) 09-08-2005, 12:13 PM

What picture are you talking about? All the stab motor pictures I have seen have the motor shaft pointing up.

smokinsiggy · #5 (**permalink**) 09-08-2005, 05:40 PM

the pic. seen was on your stab 90 install page. in the sample install section,bottom of page . looks to me upside down ,the tube upwards. if so this app. will work on my dumbass canuck dish . just trying o eliminate the math to find elev. angle on dish . correct me if wrong , but does the rotor angle get set at my latitude @49.0 n . i really suck at math !!! lol thanks for the help. guess i can't download picture to this tread :mozilla_frown: [/img][/list]

vj9999 · #6 (**permalink**) 09-08-2005, 11:10 PM

You are right HH90 should have the motor shaft pointing downward. HH100 and HH120 have it pointing up.

smokinsiggy · #7 (**permalink**) 09-09-2005, 02:45 AM

:mozilla_frown: thanks for the clarification on this picture . oh well , had some hopes of possible hook up with out modifications. lol , guess i'm back to smokin an thinkin about goin to the muffler shop to get adapter pipe. thought these "fabulous stabs fit any n. amerircan dish", what a joke , guess canuck dishes aren't "n.american enough"!!! thanks for the help , i'm sure i'll be back with more q's . so far you've provided more support , than sites i've belonged to for long time . cheers!!!

Shawn95GT · #8 (**permalink**) 09-10-2005, 03:54 PM

Do you have a pic of what the mount looks like?

Can you put the dish on the mount up-side-down?

I did exactly this with my Primestar dish / SG2100 and it worked out great.

The only side effect is that the dish elevation scale is worthless... but who cares. You set the motor elevation, USALS to the TS sat (or zero it if you are so lucky), and dial in the dish elevation as needed.

Shawn

smokinsiggy · #9 (**permalink**) 09-11-2005, 12:49 AM

=D> way to go Shawn95gt , good idea , seen same on another site , maybe yours??? real old post with all the hackin sites & threads elsewhere , kinda hard to navigate the playgrounds . seems like your situation was similiar , very much . now how is your line up in the "clarke belt" working ? is there any probs. finding your true south sat ? i'm not real concerned at scanning alot of sats right now just want to set up motor to bounce back & forth to the good ones . thanks again good advice greatly appreciated . cheers!!! :mozilla_cool:

Shawn95GT · #10 (**permalink**) 09-11-2005, 02:35 AM

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Originally Posted by smokinsiggy

=D> way to go Shawn95gt , good idea , seen same on another site , maybe yours??? real old post with all the hackin sites & threads elsewhere , kinda hard to navigate the playgrounds . seems like your situation was similiar , very much . now how is your line up in the "clarke belt" working ? is there any probs. finding your true south sat ? i'm not real concerned at scanning alot of sats right now just want to set up motor to bounce back & forth to the good ones . thanks again good advice greatly appreciated . cheers!!! :mozilla_cool:

Right now I'm recieverless so it isn't tracking anything - lol.

I had it on a smaller pole tracking 58w - 148w without issue when paired with my CoolSat. I sold the coolSat and I have a Pansat 3500s on the way. I needed polarotor control and the component output was a big plus.

When I set it up the first time, I set the motor elevation as per the instructions. I then setup the receiver with my lat/long info and USALSed to my TS sat. From there I set the azmuth by rotating the whole motor and dish as a single assembly and dialed in the the dish elevation until the the dish was peaked on the TS sat. From there it tracked the arc perfect and was dead on with USALS :mozilla_cool: .

Shawn

smokinsiggy · #11 (**permalink**) 09-12-2005, 02:02 AM

:mozilla_cool: shawn , thanks again . your advice is well needed and very much appreciated, "excellent"!!! now you mentioned u sold your "coolsat and going to pansat" . that sounds a lil like takin a step back, or do you know something about coolsat(having owned 1), that i don't know or missed ?? reason being , i have 2 coolsats ordered now. awaiting snail mail!!! anyhow , thanks again =D>

Shawn95GT · #12 (**permalink**) 09-12-2005, 03:04 AM

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Originally Posted by smokinsiggy

:mozilla_cool: shawn , thanks again . your advice is well needed and very much appreciated, "excellent"!!! now you mentioned u sold your "coolsat and going to pansat" . that sounds a lil like takin a step back, or do you know something about coolsat(having owned 1), that i don't know or missed ?? reason being , i have 2 coolsats ordered now. awaiting snail mail!!! anyhow , thanks again =D>

No, I loved my CoolSat. Nothing at all wrong with it. I even managed to get AC3 audio working with the new firmware that CoolSat released to support the card reader (even though I didn't have the reader).

I went with the PanSat 3500s for two reasons:

#1 - I needed polarotor (skew) control now that I'm setting up a 5' BUD :mozilla_cool:

#2 - The Component video output was a BIG plus for my as my TV seems to HATE s-video.

The PanSat has better AC3 support than the CoolSat from what I've been reading. I don't think it's so much that it works better but rather that it will scan in the AC3 APIDs better than the CoolSat does. I was missing audio on ImaginAsian for quite a while until I went with the new firmware and was able to edit the APID in NDFEdit.

A weak point on the PanSat is the blind scan is slower and has been known to hand on some transponders.

I probaly should have kept my CoolSat. I have this sinking feeling that I'm going to miss it.

This is my new 'dish tree' (work in progress!):

Shawn

smokinsiggy · #13 (**permalink**) 09-16-2005, 03:09 AM

well shawn , ya really seem to be the man. had to put rotor and 33in on hold for a few days more . work piled up . was close to getting the pipe mod, but the hick town that's near buy had no pipe in stock. now i just bought 2x coolsats. awaiting snail mail . was going to apply one to my neighbors 6ft. bud . now you leave me an impression that this won't work due to "skew issue". DAMN . was going to get him a 3500 , but he said cost wasn't issue. must be nice, eh . guess i missed that issue with my research of coolsat . well, maybe i'll get a new 3500 and move the bud to my yard . i'll be in touch , sooner or "later" . thanks again. :mozilla_foot: :mozilla_laughing:

Shawn95GT · #14 (**permalink**) 09-16-2005, 03:25 AM

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Originally Posted by smokinsiggy

well shawn , ya really seem to be the man. had to put rotor and 33in on hold for a few days more . work piled up . was close to getting the pipe mod, but the hick town that's near buy had no pipe in stock. now i just bought 2x coolsats. awaiting snail mail . was going to apply one to my neighbors 6ft. bud . now you leave me an impression that this won't work due to "skew issue". darn . was going to get him a 3500 , but he said cost wasn't issue. must be nice, eh . guess i missed that issue with my research of coolsat . well, maybe i'll get a new 3500 and move the bud to my yard . i'll be in touch , sooner or "later" . thanks again. :mozilla_foot: :mozilla_laughing:

It depends on the feedhorn / lnb(s). It could be just fine.

In my case I've got a C/Ku feedhorn that uses a rotor to switch polarity & fine tune the skew. Until my Norsats come in I just have an inexpensive voltage switched C-band LNBF on the dish for now.

They have voltage switched C-band LNBFs, like the one Sadoun sells. They work just like our Ku LNBs. They've said that they have a C/Ku combo LNBF coming - that'll be cool for all of us DVB fiends.

Shawn