Wave Frontier Toroidal T-90 Satellite Dish

[Tom0000]

I have installed my new dish.
First what is bad in this dish is wrong calculated scale on LNBF rail arc.
There is a scale from 23.5 to 23.5 but in degrees it is from 21 degree to 21 degree.
Second thing is big decrease the signal power outside of original rail.
My first try was with center in 20.5E. The amos (4W) was on the rail in 24.5+2(scale fix) = 26.5 and half of channels was unreachable. The 8W was reachable but not from the rail.
I have fixed the center to 16.5E and now 4W is in 20.5+2=22.5 on original arc and all channels are good with much bettr quality. The 8W is reachable from the extednded rail too.
I have the 42E from other side , and now one sample channel has 74% of quality but the same channel had 82% when the center was in 20.5E.
Now I am receiving :8W,4W,1W,5e,9e,13e,16e,19e,23.5e,28.5e,33e,36e,39 e,42e
I do not have more LBNFs at this moment. I have read, the new inverto should be in shops this months. I can wait.

[Muad'Dib]

If you wanna receive usable signals from 10e then point the LNB more to 10e than 9e, 9e is way stronger (mostly).

[Tom0000]

Some my pictures.
The half of all LBNFs visible on pictures are very old and I am using them only because I have it. This is the only reason you will find there alps on the picture!

[satesco]

Originally Posted by Tom0000

My LNB bar is in locksmith now. He will extend it 20cm from each end.

Congratulation for your toroidal dish.It look great,and especially for extend lnb bar.I never seen this kind of suport.From where you get it?Indeed you can put more lnbs on this suport,maybe 18th!

Originally Posted by Tom0000

The 9/7/5 mounting seems to be very interesting. Could you show us more specific picture ? You have cut standard mount and used metal one but I do not see how have you connected it and what is this metal part.
Is this metal tape connected to plastic mount using a screw ?

More about my toroidal,even pictures,you will find at viz:RDI-SAT Forums - Powered by vBulletin.

Originally Posted by Tom0000

Are you able to receive something from 7W ?

Yes,I catch AtlanticBird 4-7W,but only subband trps{10719-10930 and 12341,12362,12399}

Originally Posted by Tom0000

Do you have you any problems with your 8/1 switch ? (Is it viper/wavefrontier?)

No,I have no problems in using 8/1 switch.I am using right now 2x8/1 switches and 1x2/1 diseqc 1.1.If you have a satellite reciever which knows diseqc protocol 1.0 and 1.1 is not a problems whatsoever with switches.My dish is original Wavefield.

[Tom0000]

Originally Posted by satesco

I never seen this kind of suport.From where you get it?Indeed you can put more lnbs on this suport,maybe 18th!

I have found some craftsmen in my city in phone book. The first contacted has agreed to do my modifications.

[Tom0000]

I have a new set now, after buying some new LNBFs.

12.5W, 8W, 5/4W, 1W, 4/4.8e, 7E, 9/10E, 13E, 16E, 19.2E, 23.5E, 26E, 28.2/28.5E, 31.5E, 33E, 36E, 39E, 42E

It is not optimal. The possibility to receive some the strongest channels from 12.5W has to be payed by lost more channels from 39E and 42E. Much better is receiving 8W - 42E and maybe 45E additional.

[Tom0000]

Here the picture:

[satesco]

Originally Posted by Tom0000

I have a new set now, after buying some new LNBFs.

12.5W, 8W, 5/4W, 1W, 4/4.8e, 7E, 9/10E, 13E, 16E, 19.2E, 23.5E, 26E, 28.2/28.5E, 31.5E, 33E, 36E, 39E, 42E

It is not optimal. The possibility to receive some the strongest channels from 12.5W has to be payed by lost more channels from 39E and 42E. Much better is receiving 8W - 42E and maybe 45E additional.[

Sincerely congratulation!It seem to me that you established a new record for lnbs!
my best regards

ps-look in your PM

Here is my solution for catch Alps with necklace:

[Tom0000]

I have changed my set a bit. I have removed 12.5W, the 8w I have placed where the poorest channels are able to receive and from second end of rail I have added LNB for 45e. This is better because 45e is much stronger than 12.5W in my city.
I have been able to receive only 5-10 the strongest channels from 12.5W. The channels like 2x MAD from 39e were outside of receive. Now I am able to receive all from 8W, 39e, 42e and 45e.

[Muad'Dib]

Hey Tom,

how strong is 42e for you then?

[satesco]

Originally Posted by Muad'Dib

how strong is 42e for you then?

I pickup almost all turkish transponders with my toroidal!

[Tom0000]

Originally Posted by Muad'Dib

Hey Tom,

how strong is 42e for you then?

I can say, 99% of this what I can find on it if I will move LBNF 4 degrees I am able to receive in current position. 42e is very strong in my city. Only very weak signals not possible to receive using 1m dish I am not able to receive in this configuration. The same I can say about 45e. I do not have to change the mount point of 8w and 45e from standard rail to upper position.

There is the picture of my last configuration with center in ~17e.

[skyman114]

I`m after a little guidance, I have a T90 and am planning on obtaining signal from 16 different satellites. Now my problem lies with the diseqc switching.
I have purchased a "SPAUN SUR420F" and 4x Technomate TM-4s 4x1 switches.

My first question is : In what mode do I use the SUR420F ?

My second question is : I currently have a DM7020 on a 1m motor set up and will be transferring this to the T90. Has anyone got a screen shot from a DM7*** of their satellite set up for a similar 16 lnb system ? The satellites are not important it`s the assignment of lnb`s verse switches i need.

Thanks in advance.

[lumpkin666]

for your setup, you might try the forums as pli-images.org. They were very helpful in helping me figure out how to setup a system with multiple switches and multiple motors on the same setup. My circumstance was that I couldn't do it via the menu system due to the complexity, but they helped me understand how to edit the config files and load them onto the box manually.

[Tom0000]

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This spaun is not bad. I have it from my old dish. Now I have bought viper 8/1 switch and I am using it with 5x4/1 axings. Is it better from spaun ? I do not know. The same good.

Enigma in your receiver lets you configure not standard configuration or rotor (last position on the list).
Add 16 + commons (like 5W, 10e, ...) to your set, change LNB index for unique for each and in (blue button) configuration set diseqc 1.1 , signal diseqc set to correct for yours 4/1 , uncommited correct for spaun.
That is all.

[skyman114]

Thanks guys i think i have it clear in my mind what i need now.

[arbra]

Hi all,

I read Iceberg's, Satlex and the manufacturer tutorial for my brand new Twin Dish 90 (like Wavefrontier) but i cannot have 2 satelites working at the same time (for instance HB13°E and Astra 19.2E). I use a cheap 8 x 1 switch but i'm not sure my old "unflashed" Kaon 570 receiver can handle Disecq 1.1

The other problem is that i cannot receive Eutelsat W2 10°E nor others satellites exept Sirius. I'm using standard cheap universal Lnb's. Could this be the problem ? If so what do you advise me to buy knowing that I would like to receive satllites between (if possible) HELLAS SAT 39.0E up to AB 3°W as this azimuth range of 42°should normally be ok for a WF.

Many thanks in advance for your help

Patrick

ps : pictures of the installation & receiver menu can be posted

[Muad'Dib]

Get a 10/1 and use it with diseqc 1.2.

[RimaNTSS]

Hi everyone!
I have this dish from 2004 and like it very much. Of course I also like to spend some time tuning it up. Those plastic LNB holders where only 5 coming with antenna and I did not think that it is good idea to buy another ones. So I made some not expensive adjustments to system itself. It gave LNBs possibility to be moved vertically. Antenna holder is also hand made- local welder helped a lot.

[Admin]

BTW, Reversed polarity LNBFs for this dish and T55 can be found here:
DSL2R Sadoun Toroidal Reverse Polarity LNB LNBF Dual Single DSS Standard and Universal