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07-24-2007, 09:25 AM
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922 shorted out
If you want me to put this somewhere else go ahead i wasn't sure.Darn another problem accured now My 922 shorted out,and stoped at G1 i tried hooking up my old analog back up to turn the dish and it would only go east just a llittle and stop,What happened.I replaced the lnb and it moved a little bit more but not much.Thank you

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07-24-2007, 09:56 AM
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You need to understand how the system works before moving any farther forward. The lnb has absolutely nothing to do with movement of the dish. They are 2 independant operation/procedures. There are for all practical purposes only a few things that can cause a dish to stop moving.
1.) Actuator is bad
2.) Broken wire or not connected properly to the receiver
3.) Broken wire or not connected properly to the actuator
4.) Physical break in mounting or severe misalignment of the dish causing it to be locked up against itself. Rust could also cause this.
Where to start:
1.) Disconnect one mounting point of the actuator and attempt to move the dish by hand from side to side. Does the dish move freely for the full travel? If yes proceed. If no you have a problem in your mount. Look for the obvious.
2.) With the actuator still disconnected on one end attempt to move the dish with the receiver (DSR922). Does the actuator move in and out smoothly? If yes reconnect and proceed. If no check wiring. If wiring is ok the actuator is most likely bad. If wiring problem is found repair wiring.
3.) With actuator connected attempt to move the dish. Does the dish move smoothly? If yes sounds like problem solved. If no the actuator is most likely bad as it will not move under normal load.
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07-24-2007, 10:11 AM
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Ok here is the whole setup of what i did.The genious in me no no no the stupidity maybe.I thought this might work but aparently not.I took and tried to jump my analog motor connection to my 922 when i did that my 922 shorted out and that is when my dish would only move a fraction of what it is supose to.I ck what you wanted me to do but i can't use my 922 shorted out big time
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07-24-2007, 11:12 AM
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You can only hook one receiver to an actuator at a time. Time to send the 922 in for repair
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8.5' Mesh Dish w/ C & Ku lnb's & 24" actuator
8.5' Mesh Dish w/ BSC621-2 fixed install for circular C Band on 40.5
Fortec Star 90cm Dish w/ FSKUv lnbf & DMSISG2100
Motorola DSR922
Fortec Mercury II
Digital Stream HD1150.
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07-24-2007, 11:18 AM
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How do i get my dish to move is what i want to know t only moves half way around now.Since this happened.
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07-24-2007, 11:26 AM
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Half way around? Is the actuator moving full travel? Not dish movement. Is the actuator fully extending and retracting when not connected to the dish?
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8.5' Mesh Dish w/ C & Ku lnb's & 24" actuator
8.5' Mesh Dish w/ BSC621-2 fixed install for circular C Band on 40.5
Fortec Star 90cm Dish w/ FSKUv lnbf & DMSISG2100
Motorola DSR922
Fortec Mercury II
Digital Stream HD1150.
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07-24-2007, 12:05 PM
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No it looks like to me it has more travel alot more
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07-24-2007, 12:10 PM
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As long as your mount is not causing an interferrence and it is moving I would look to the sat position programming in your receiver. I assume the analog receiver is moving the dish at this time.
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8.5' Mesh Dish w/ C & Ku lnb's & 24" actuator
8.5' Mesh Dish w/ BSC621-2 fixed install for circular C Band on 40.5
Fortec Star 90cm Dish w/ FSKUv lnbf & DMSISG2100
Motorola DSR922
Fortec Mercury II
Digital Stream HD1150.
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07-24-2007, 12:11 PM
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If you want to check your actuator, first disconnect all other items from the actuator. Then take the two heavier gauge wires (tprobably 12 or 14 guage - normally they are red/black and connected to M1 and M2 on your satellite receiver). Touch 1 to the negative side of a 12v car battery, and touch the other to the positive side of a 12v car battery. It should move one direction or the other (albiet slowly since you're only giving it 12v instead of 36v). To check the actuator travel in the opposite direction, can you guess what you need to to? - yep, just flip your wires around and it'll travel the other direction.
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Dishes: 2 Primestar 75E, 2 Fortec 90cm, 2 10ft, 7.5ft
Motors: 2 SG2100, SkyJack 24" & 36" actuators
Movers: 2 VBoxII
LNB(f)s: Invacom qph-031, Primestar, dual/single ku, BSC621,Geosat dual C-Band, 2 Polarotor, Corotor
DVB Receivers/cards: 2 Fortec Classic NA, 2 Dreambox 500-s, SatPros DSR-550s, Digiwave DG7000, Lava 3200, Pansat 2500a, Viewsat Ultra, Twinhan 102g
Analog: Zenith 1000, GI 2400
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07-24-2007, 12:12 PM
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Ill try that
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07-24-2007, 12:45 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by elgemcdlf
You can only hook one receiver to an actuator at a time. Time to send the 922 in for repair
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I hate it when the magical smokes comes out of electronics. 
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07-24-2007, 12:51 PM
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It went all the way to the east but when i sswitched the wires ar.it still wanted to go east.it won't go west at all now
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07-24-2007, 01:45 PM
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If you pop the cover off your actuator (where the wires go in), there should be a nut or slot that you can insert a tool to manually crank the dish back the other direction. You might manually turn it back aways so that you can swap the wires and ensure that it's really trying to move the same direction regardless of which wire you have on the positive side of your battery (i.e. it might seem that it's trying to move in the same direction simply because it can't move at all).
If it appears to be physically difficult to manually move in one direction or the other, then you may look at lubrication/grease to fix it. If not, then you'll either need to tear the actuator electronics apart and figure out which part was blown, or possibly replace either the actuator or just the motor. I know that I've seen advertised replacement motors (without the actual arm) that seemed pretty reasonable in price.
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I like to shop at Sadoun Satellite Sales
Dishes: 2 Primestar 75E, 2 Fortec 90cm, 2 10ft, 7.5ft
Motors: 2 SG2100, SkyJack 24" & 36" actuators
Movers: 2 VBoxII
LNB(f)s: Invacom qph-031, Primestar, dual/single ku, BSC621,Geosat dual C-Band, 2 Polarotor, Corotor
DVB Receivers/cards: 2 Fortec Classic NA, 2 Dreambox 500-s, SatPros DSR-550s, Digiwave DG7000, Lava 3200, Pansat 2500a, Viewsat Ultra, Twinhan 102g
Analog: Zenith 1000, GI 2400
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07-24-2007, 01:48 PM
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All right will check those things out.Thank you for the suggestions
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07-24-2007, 01:58 PM
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Any suggestions to what complete acuator at this store i should get.I have a 10 foot Unimesh Dish nIll work on this one on my spare time.I want to get up and running again.I have a superjack II
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07-24-2007, 02:25 PM
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If you want to save some money, you could probably get away with just replacing the motor part with this:
HOAL-2418-Motor_replacement_for_actuator
Otherwise you'll at least this big of an actuator to move your 10' dish:
HARL-3624 TD-24 24" 36V Moteck Super Power Jack Actuator
And if you're in an area susceptible to heavy wind and/or snow, then you'll want something more heavy-duty like this:
QARL-3624 HV-24 24" Stroke 36V Motech Heavy Duty Actuators
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I like to shop at Sadoun Satellite Sales
Dishes: 2 Primestar 75E, 2 Fortec 90cm, 2 10ft, 7.5ft
Motors: 2 SG2100, SkyJack 24" & 36" actuators
Movers: 2 VBoxII
LNB(f)s: Invacom qph-031, Primestar, dual/single ku, BSC621,Geosat dual C-Band, 2 Polarotor, Corotor
DVB Receivers/cards: 2 Fortec Classic NA, 2 Dreambox 500-s, SatPros DSR-550s, Digiwave DG7000, Lava 3200, Pansat 2500a, Viewsat Ultra, Twinhan 102g
Analog: Zenith 1000, GI 2400
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07-24-2007, 02:34 PM
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The c panel you wanted me to look at didn't come threw
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07-24-2007, 04:17 PM
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Quote:
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The c panel you wanted me to look at didn't come threw
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Sorry about that. I've fixed the link now.
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I like to shop at Sadoun Satellite Sales
Dishes: 2 Primestar 75E, 2 Fortec 90cm, 2 10ft, 7.5ft
Motors: 2 SG2100, SkyJack 24" & 36" actuators
Movers: 2 VBoxII
LNB(f)s: Invacom qph-031, Primestar, dual/single ku, BSC621,Geosat dual C-Band, 2 Polarotor, Corotor
DVB Receivers/cards: 2 Fortec Classic NA, 2 Dreambox 500-s, SatPros DSR-550s, Digiwave DG7000, Lava 3200, Pansat 2500a, Viewsat Ultra, Twinhan 102g
Analog: Zenith 1000, GI 2400
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07-24-2007, 04:45 PM
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How does th earm match up with the receiver or vice versa I reset the dish half way but the receiver is reading G1 How do i reset that?or does it reset itself
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