New Product

[elgemcdlf]

I receive a printed publication from a competitor of Sadoun's which listed a new to me product package which I think falls right in line for Sadoun Satellite Sales. They are selling refurbished DSR 411 (or DSR 410 never remember which it is) receivers with a Ku dish and standard lnbf for reception from X4 (4DTV). Not sure what sat that is but this is a direct competition to DTV and DN. The programming available is complete and Ku so the little dishes work. While I have not counted I believe there are at least 100 channels available on X4. Motorola is a high quality receiver. If you are not aware of this offering PM me Sadoun and I will give you the competitions site so you can check it out.

[rainman]

Originally Posted by elgemcdlf

I receive a printed publication from a competitor of Sadoun's which listed a new to me product package which I think falls right in line for Sadoun Satellite Sales. They are selling refurbished DSR 411 (or DSR 410 never remember which it is) receivers with a Ku dish and standard lnbf for reception from X4 (4DTV). Not sure what sat that is but this is a direct competition to DTV and DN. The programming available is complete and Ku so the little dishes work. While I have not counted I believe there are at least 100 channels available on X4. Motorola is a high quality receiver. If you are not aware of this offering PM me Sadoun and I will give you the competitions site so you can check it out.

It is a 410 Steve and X4 is the ku side of Galaxy 4 at 99 degrees west.
and sounds like a good deal if I didn't already have the 922.

[pmb1010]

It is another alternative.

Plusses:

- I don't think there are any committments to make. With DishNetwork or Directv I think you have to sign up for 2 years now.
- relatively cheap per month rates.

Minuses:

- limited channel selection (compared to Dish or Directv)
- No HD.
- difficult to record & watch another
- multi-rooms needs a box for each room at same rate as 1st box

[elgemcdlf]

Originally Posted by pmb1010

It is another alternative.

Plusses:

- I don't think there are any committments to make. With DishNetwork or Directv I think you have to sign up for 2 years now.
- relatively cheap per month rates.

Correct no commitments but if you pay annually you get a discount just like big dish pricing.

Originally Posted by pmb1010

Minuses:

- limited channel selection (compared to Dish or Directv)
- No HD.
- difficult to record & watch another
- multi-rooms needs a box for each room at same rate as 1st box

All valid points. From what I see on the guide for X4 for English programming it looks like a good across the board selection. Do not know if you can do Ala Carte but would imagine so. I know what I have seen is package offerings but also know you can do a movie pack from that sat for slightly higher costs than doing the C Band versions. Do not know if you get as many channels though. I have not look specifically at X4 channel lineup as I usually only buy movie channels. Just know it is a loaded with channels sat along with music.

[pmb1010]

Yeah you have to go by vendor's channel offering. Last I looked, it was 2 packages, "a few" and "a bunch" (no true a-la-carte).

From what I've read, the HITS channels on X4 are not all available to the vendor, therefore can't be offered as subscribeable. Like the ESPN situation on C band...

[elgemcdlf]

Originally Posted by pmb1010

Yeah you have to go by vendor's channel offering. Last I looked, it was 2 packages, "a few" and "a bunch" (no true a-la-carte).

From what I've read, the HITS channels on X4 are not all available to the vendor, therefore can't be offered as subscribeable. Like the ESPN situation on C band...

I would think Ala Carte is available as I have bought just Speed last year which is on X4. As to the HITS channels could be a provider issue. I have done no homework on this item at all other than seeing the advertisement. I know HBO from 1 provider is higher than from another and it really does go channel by channel. I am guessing the receiver is the same in concept to a normal 4DTV receiver so multiple subs with multiple providers could / would be an option.

I am assuming it takes the same module I use in the 922. Like I said I have done no homework on this item just think it would be something worth looking into for Sadoun since it is a stationary mount small dish that is sub able.

[pmb1010]

At this point, the vendor providing the product and reselling the programming will only use the 410's provided by them.
They will not sub a receiver (at this point) that they didn't provide.

So I guess for Sadoun to resell this they'd have to be a co-distributor for the vendor. Not sure how that would play out.

Reminds me of Primestar. We all know what happened to that.

I hope the guy succeeds, but the competition is tough for the reasons I stated above.

[lumpkin666]

Reading threads on this from another site makes it sound a little too clunky for my taste. People continually report problems getting updates and guide data not working... If I'm gonna sub to satellite, I'll either go pizza or go with a full featured dual c/ku band solution.