Diference between Motor and actuator

[Vallenato]

What is actuator? What is the diference with this and Motor..
thanks in dvance

[rainman]

they are basically the same thing they both move the dish. most motors are Horizion to horizon where as a actuator push and pull the dish on a smaller arc. first pic is a actuator the 2nd is a hh motor.

[Vallenato]

Originally Posted by rainman

they are basically the same thing they both move the dish. most motors are Horizion to horizon where as a actuator push and pull the dish on a smaller arc. first pic is a actuator the 2nd is a hh motor.

Thanks Rainman,
So The Actuator is to move the dish in "Manual" and the motor is "automatic" mover..ok?
what is the best way to move one C band dish (example: FS08 240 cm )?
What is the best way to move more Horizon in the arc (example: between Intelsat 11 at 43 w to AMC8 at 139 W)?
I wish to get a C Band Dish and get more breadth to catch more satellites in the Arc and watch more free channels. what you recommend to me?.I live in texas
thanks again

[rainman]

you will have to use a actuator for that size dish nobody that I know of makes a HH motor for that big of dish.

[Vallenato]

Originally Posted by rainman

you will have to use a actuator for that size dish nobody that I know of makes a HH motor for that big of dish.

oK, So My Only way If I wish to get a 2.40 cm dish and get More breadth in the Arc in C Band is to get an actuator and ALWAYS Go to my House roof to switch satellite that I require to watch..
What about the Sadoun Power Tech V3000 (Gbox) ? I read that is the Actuator Controller. With This Device, Could I to Manage my actuator from My bedroom through my receiver Coolsat?
thanks for your support

[10-4]

Yes, get yourself a Heavy Duty 36 volt Actuator for your 2.4 meter dish and a Gbox to power the Actuator Automatically from your Coolsat.

[sweety]

the difference b/n them are clik herehttp://www.google.com

[elrey]

I woild like to follow on this discution regarding c band, I bought a 1.8cm prime focus which I plan to use with my coolsat 4k, I did not installed yet since i'm still gathering all the items required. the question is, as follows, I already have a 36" dish with a hh motor sg2100 which works fine and I learned how to use it very well. Now the question when setting up the 1.8 cm dish, coolsat and actuator, the operation will it be the same as the hh motor, or do I need anything elso such this positioner/controller the I hear aboud but not quite understand its purpose. my understanding is that you caan move the dish via satelliate receiver using the actuator more or less as the hh motor. so basically, if I don't have this positioner/ controller (gbox) my system will not work? any info will be great. thanks guys for all your help.

[10-4]

1.8 cm dish, wow that's a tiny little dish

[Vitruvius]

LOL... yes 1.8cm is a small dish.. they had those in that movie Transformers II.
But for real - Yes, you need a separate controller to move the actuator on your big dish. If you have only one receiver then use that to control your 36" motor through the coax cable to the LNB. If you install your actuator on the 180 cm dish you can use a V-Box to move the actuator and position your dish to align to the sats. This is what I am doing. I have one receiver that goes to a Disequ switch and then 3 coaxes going from the diseq switch to the Ku-band and C-band LNB on my big 200 cm dish and to the motor on my 36" dish which connects to its LNB. My V-box is connected only to my actuator and not to any coaxes. It is kept out of the loop because you cannot have multiple motors connected to one receiver.

hope this helps.

[elrey]

Thank you Vitruvius, and I'm sorry for my typo errors on my post. I have to clarify my new scenario, when I referred to the hh motor this is what I have now. but I want to install the 1.8m dish, actuator, and the coolsat 4000. lets assume that I'm discarting my current system and I just want to have the c band dish alone. so what I understand is, install the dish, install the actuator and with the v-box I can control the dish to move from one satellite to another and do all my scans etc, etc. so I can not control the 1.8m dish with the receiver alone as it is done with the hh motors. So the v-box is mandatory to be able to move the dish and see the sats, am I correct?. Thank you all again for all your help.

Originally Posted by Vitruvius

LOL... yes 1.8cm is a small dish.. they had those in that movie Transformers II.
But for real - Yes, you need a separate controller to move the actuator on your big dish. If you have only one receiver then use that to control your 36" motor through the coax cable to the LNB. If you install your actuator on the 180 cm dish you can use a V-Box to move the actuator and position your dish to align to the sats. This is what I am doing. I have one receiver that goes to a Disequ switch and then 3 coaxes going from the diseq switch to the Ku-band and C-band LNB on my big 200 cm dish and to the motor on my 36" dish which connects to its LNB. My V-box is connected only to my actuator and not to any coaxes. It is kept out of the loop because you cannot have multiple motors connected to one receiver.

hope this helps.

[Vitruvius]

Yes, you need the Vbox for the actuator. Please check and coordinate voltage of your equipment. The Vbox is 36volts and most actuators are 36 volts, but some are 24 volts.

If you have just the actuator on the 180 C band dish connected to your system and no other motors, you can do the following. Send coax from receiver to Vbox and then coax from the Vbox to the 180cm dish LNB. You will have power and controller wires to the actuator on the 180cm dish. With this system you can use the Diseqc 1.2 control language to tell the Vbox which satellite to point to and it can go to sats automatically.

Otherwise, you do not send coax from the receiver to the Vbox, just power and control wires to the actuator from the Vbox. It becomes necessary to manually move the dish with the Vbox and you need to note each satellites address based on the number on the Vbox. This is not difficult and necessary if you wish to include your motorized Ku band dish.

I hope this is clear and helps.

[Vitruvius]

You see, the receiver sends lower voltage to the Ku dish motor than is required for the big actuator motor. This is why the Vbox is needed... to increase the voltage.

good luck.

[elrey]

Thank you Vitruvius once again for all your help, it sound esay enough to get it going with your input. I understand now the whole reason why the vbox is need. Thanks

Originally Posted by Vitruvius

You see, the receiver sends lower voltage to the Ku dish motor than is required for the big actuator motor. This is why the Vbox is needed... to increase the voltage.

good luck.