rotor sat

[xbox1]

hi my first time posting hope it will be my last.ok heres what i did first of all i deleted all my satellites wanted to start from beginning had to many satellites that could never get any channelsfrom.ok i did everything in the manual to restore certain satellites.problem is i cant get the moter to turn in the correct direction dont know how the settings could of changedon the motor.when i go to example dish 119 its going in the opposite direction.Ive tried 2 different ways like it says in the manual DISEqc 1 .2and DISqc 1.3 by using the 1.3 method the motor and dish turns but with the 1.2 motor does not turn using the 1.2 method your suppose to auto scan and pick up channels and dish suppose to turn in that direction automaticly.thats the way i under stand it.As of now i can only get amc5 and no other satellites.Im doing something wrong in settings is there some way to set the moter to zero like a starting point and how would i go about doing that very confused. my receiver is a fortec star Dvb-786v3.also one more thing on the amc5 i get a very good picture and quality.all other satellites no signal or very low.

[bobkat]

Seems to me you have not aligned the motor properly. Here is a link to a previous thread that is quite helpful ---> http://sadoun.com/Forum/phpBB2/viewt...25f1225096e6a1

:wink:

kat

[aar5ac]

Also verify you have inputted the correct latitude and longitude for your location under the disqec 1.3 menu. The first time I did my setup I reversed the latitude and longitude and the only satellite it would point to is AMC3, which for me is my due south satellite and it was pointing at that when I did the goto 0 option under the desqc menu

[xbox1]

after aligning i can only get amc 5 and all the dish satellites and still telstar 5 and other satellites in RED .ive heard that if you try to align the weakest satellite first then rest will fall in line. from what i have so far which satellite should i align next to solve my problem.

[aar5ac]

The best instructions for alignment of the modified polar mount are Sadoun's on this very website. That being said, if your pole mount is not PERFECTLY plumb you won't track the arc correctly. You will track part of the arc and then the rest of the sat's will drop out. When I first installed my motor I only got a couple of the sats. When I rechecked my pole I was just a hair off from vertical, and I mean a hair. It's that important to be perfectly level left and right and forward and backward. In addition in peaking I peaked on my southern most sat as that sat is at the peak of the arc. If you tweak the elevation a bit on your furthest East sat then when you get to the furthest West sat you may be off. Hope this helps.

[xbox1]

well i realigned the pol vertically but same problem cant find tel star5 what is the best procedure to use when using the Diseqc 1 or 3. OK let me explain exactly what im doing maybe someone can tell me what im doing wrong.First i have my motor at zero position then im trying to find amc5,i go to diseqc 1.3 hit USALS it takes me to the approx location,if signal is still red i change it back to Diseqc 1.2 and move it east and west till it turns GREEN then store it. OK now im still at amc5 i go to the menu,channel search,change from amc5 to telstar5,bar is red,i go to positioner set it on disecq 1.3 then hit USALS it moves the dish to new location Telstar5 ok still in red. what i do now is change positioner back to Diseqc 1.2 and move it east to west no luck still in red. what mistakes am i making?

[aar5ac]

ok,

What you need to do is use your most south satellite to tune up on. For argument sake say it's telstar 5. Use usls 1.3 and select telstar 5. You need to make sure you select an active transponder. Check the lyngsat charts for that. Once you select T5 using usls do not use the nudge buttons, that just throws you off. When you select T5 it's on T5 as far as the rotor is concerned. Once you do that, climb on the roof. Use a compass and get your true south bearing. Move the whole dish/arm mount a degree or two turning the whole unit. See what I'm getting at. Once the receiver thinks it's at T5 you have to rotate the whole unit until you are on T5. Once that's done then peak the satellite and tighten the nuts on the whole mount. If your good to go on T5 or AMC 3, whatever and as long as your pole is perfectlly vertical then the usls will put you right on the money. It helps to have a sigal meter. I think sadoun sells them for about $20. It makes it easier when your up on the roof, move the whole dish left or right until you get a hit and go and check the receiver to see if your on the right sat. If not go back up and hit the next one. You will get it. My way of tuning is a little different than Sadouns' but all things being equal it works just fine. If you do follow Sadoun's setup instructions exactly as stated then you will be o.k. 8)

[xbox1]

aar5ac you must of reading my mind i just ordered the meter will take a week to get it.You know when i try to fine tune it in the diseqc 1.2 signal goes up at a certain point then what i usually do is move the dish up and down same with the motor and yet nothing i cant believe it can be this difficult to find any of the telstar satellites.Im so close and still missing it.I have to ask you one more thing my latitude is 26.2343N longitude 80.09 on the menu does it round out it self because the way its showing when i enter is 26.2N and 80.1 W would that be correct.

[aar5ac]

Yep,
That looks good. With your setup of 80 Deg your due south satellite would be AMC5 as your closest. This will be the highest point of the arc. Don't even think of messing with T5 or anything yet. Choose AMC5 on the usls and let the motor rotate and then twist the whole mount left or right until AMC5 is locked in. Then peak the sat, move slightly left and right and then up and down for strongest signal and tighten the heck out of the mounting bolts so the reflector does not move. Since the receiver thinks it's at amc5 and now you have moved it to amc5 it will then know where to find the rest of the sats. You don't want to mix 1.2 and 1.3 just yet. Use the usls on 1.3 and you will be ok. Try this transponder if you don't have it already programed for amc5. Set the receiver to 11742V and a sr of 11110 and fec of 3/4. Thats a good strong xponder with university programming and a couple of pbs stations. Hope that helps.

[xbox1]

aar5c i did it found a live transponder went to Telstar 5 guess what it was GREEN hit save and a way we go it started to down load but only 15 channels.used to have 150 so that means that i will have to fine tune it.To dark to go out side but will continue tomorrow. I have to say thank you for helping me out.couldnt do it with out you.But will keep you in touch what happens tomorow if i get the rest of my channels on Telstar 5 or not.

[dtsexpert]

Xbox1,
I recommend you to use truesouth sat as the first one to start with. Yes, it is possible to set up h-h mount without aiming at truesouth, but it's much more difficult. I actually set up one of my h-h mounts without aiming at truesouth, it's due to the trees, but very time-consuming. If this is the first time you set up motorized dish, use the "recommeded" approach. Excuse me if you feel offended.
Again, here is what you do:
1. Double check your LONG/LAT you key in.
2. Double check the LO setting.
10750 for standar
For universal: Low 9750, high 10600
3. Use 1.3 to move your dish to AMC5 which is your duesouth. Pick any active trasponder for tuning the dish. There are couple Empire Sport on AMC5. Check out lyngsat for the freq, pol, Sr of the fees.
http://www.lyngsat.com/amc5.shtml
4. Double check the h-h mount elevation. It should be the same as your LAT.
5. Set the compass at the azimuth of AMC5. The "true" azimuth of AMC5 should be 180 +/- magnetic deviation. You can get magnetic deviation here: http://www.sadoun.com/Sat/Installati...Calculator.htm
6. Set the dish elevation. Check out the link below for dish elevation:
http://www.sadoun.com/Sat/Installati...stallation.htm
7. Aim your dish to the AMC5 direction.
8. Move the whole mount left/right.
9.If you can't fine the locked signal, adjust the DISH elevation only. Don't touch the MOUNT elevation. Then repeat step 8.
Once you get lock on AMC5, try to max the quality. Move the dish using 1.3 to other sats to see if you can get lock.
Note: the skew must be set at 0 when the dish parks at the truesouth, in this case it is AMC5.
Good luck

Originally Posted by xbox1

aar5c i did it found a live transponder went to Telstar 5 guess what it was GREEN hit save and a way we go it started to down load but only 15 channels.used to have 150 so that means that i will have to fine tune it.To dark to go out side but will continue tomorrow. I have to say thank you for helping me out.couldnt do it with out you.But will keep you in touch what happens tomorow if i get the rest of my channels on Telstar 5 or not.

[xbox1]

thanks everyone for all your help.I got all my satellites that i had before.all working :lol: In case you all wondering what satellites i have down here in florida.well heres my list that im receiving as of today.
amc 1,2,3,4,5
Pas 9
Nimiq 1
Galaxy 11,3c,4r
Nahuel 1
Sat mex5
Anik f1
TEL 5
Echo star 3,5,7
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And thanks to you all im back on.

[Sadoun]

Congratulations to you on your success.


To other users, I would like to add a couple of extra notes to what DTSEXPERT and AAR5AC have mentioned above:

1- When you mount the dish on your motor shaft, make sure the shaft is at 0 reference position. Also make sure that the dish is aligned perfcetly with the center line of the motor shaft and the mast.



2- When you

8. Move the whole mount left/right.

to adjust for true south, make sure NOT to use the dish reflector for that. You could damage or bend the dish that way. Instead, move the whole assembly by holding and moving the motor as you can see in the following picture:

[mhoward]

HI, I notice on your satellite list that you have some that broadcast with Left/Right Circular Polarity and some with Horizontal/Vertical Linear polarity.

Do you receive both of these signals with one dish and one receiver?
Do you have two LNBs mounted togeather for one dish?

I would like to try to add a circular polarity LNB for the Echostar Satellites, any advice?

Thanks, Mark

[dtsexpert]

If your dish tracks the arc correctly, the DBS lnbf mounted next the linear ku lnbf should get all the circular channels (DishNetwork/BellVu) as well.
You can use either a 0/22 khz or Diseqc switch to switch between these 2 lnbfs.
DVB FTA receiver receives both both linear and circular. For circular, you have to set the LO at 11250.
Michael

Originally Posted by mhoward

HI, I notice on your satellite list that you have some that broadcast with Left/Right Circular Polarity and some with Horizontal/Vertical Linear polarity.

Do you receive both of these signals with one dish and one receiver?
Do you have two LNBs mounted togeather for one dish?

I would like to try to add a circular polarity LNB for the Echostar Satellites, any advice?

Thanks, Mark

[xbox1]

why doesnt dishnet work lnbf work with fortec receivers.