SG2100 moves wrong way-East for West???

[dtsexpert]

See my other reply. Anyway, I will try to answer again:
Your true south satellite is G11 at 91W. Truesouth sat is the center.
You have to move the dish to the EAST to get AMC3, AMC9.....PAS9
You have to move the dish to the WEST to get Telstar6, G3C.......G10R
Michael

If you have entered the lat/long properly and usls won't find the right satellite then it's an alignment problem. The pole mount has to be perfectly level all the way around and MUST be pointed due south and that needs to be dead nuts on or it wont work. The best way I found to do that is to align to your direct south satellite. Don't worry about your east/west most satellite yet. I believe you said AMC9 is your due south. Here's how you do it. Assuming the pole is verticle as I said before, go to the usls and select AMC9 on the receiver, the 2100 will move the dish to where it thinks AMC9 is. Make sure you have slected an active transponder to tune to. For AMC9 try 11940V sr 20000 and FEC 3/4. These are all encrypted but it's a strong transponder and you will get a lock. With that done, go up to the roof and physically move the whole dish and mount assembly a degree or two at a time, one way and then another until you get a lock. It helps greatly to get the $20 signal meter from Sadoun then you can move from one satellite to another until the receiver locks. (much easier) Once you get a lock then peak the signal by moving the dish up and down slightly to get the best signal. When you do it like this, you will be pointed perfectly on due south. If the pole is level and you properly peak the dish you really don't have to worry about your further east/west satellite. It will be right on. If the pole isn't level that's when you have trouble with the arc and only be able to track a few of the satellites. Good luck

My problem is I can understand the satellites directions.
If 58º West means my dish points to the East, I'm lost. West is East?
Is AMC 9 due south of my location? How can I find out? I'm at 37.7N
and 91.1W...that is my location.

My mounting pole is exactly vertical.
Motor & Dish pointing as due south as I can get w/compass.
It is on the ground and easy to get to.
I do have a satellite signal finder.

But AMC 9 is not in my Satellite List. I only have AMC 1-8 Listed.
Wish I had AMC 9 in my list to go to.

And this:

Make sure you have slected an active transponder to tune to. For AMC9 try 11940V sr 20000 and FEC 3/4

I don't know this but might can figure it out by playing around w/receiver.

I can't figure out if a satellite is East or West of my location. I thought
PAS 9 at 58.0º West would be in the West. But my dish looks East.

[spyder]

>>>I can't figure out if a satellite is East or West of my location. I thought
PAS 9 at 58.0º West would be in the West. But my dish looks East.<<<

If AMC9 is your true south satellite, AMC9 is located at 85° west, any satellite with a degree less than that would be to your east, and any satellite with a degree larger would be to your west.
So PAS9 at 58° would be east and G10r at 123° would be to the west.

The west and east designation pertains to (I think) international date-line coordinates and wraps around the earth for 180° from that point.

[dtsexpert]

Spyder,
Base on his Longtitude, his truesouth sat is not AMC9. The truesouth is G11R. If he uses the AMC9 as the truesouth (center), the h-h mount will not track the arc correctly for sure.
Michael

>>>I can't figure out if a satellite is East or West of my location. I thought
PAS 9 at 58.0º West would be in the West. But my dish looks East.<<<

If AMC9 is your true south satellite, AMC9 is located at 85° west, any satellite with a degree less than that would be to your east, and any satellite with a degree larger would be to your west.
So PAS9 at 58° would be east and G10r at 123° would be to the west.

The west and east designation pertains to (I think) international date-line coordinates and wraps around the earth for 180° from that point.

[spyder]

Spyder,
Base on his Longtitude, his truesouth sat is not AMC9. The truesouth is G11R. If he uses the AMC9 as the truesouth (center), the h-h mount will tracks the arc correctly for sure.
Michael

That's why I added the "if" at the begining of that statement, assuming he had already made that assesment.

edited to add: also I think your reply to him came in just ahead of mine, so I didn't see the info you provided until a later return. I think we're back on the right track now. :lol:

[F3Beam]

Okay guys, I think I got it. THANKS ALOT!!!!!
"Your true south satellite is G11 at 91W." I don't know how you
figured this out but that is a great help. If it is not in my list of satellites on my Fortec Lifetime I'll update with the latest NA TP list.

"Here in the states all sats are in the West location" That's
what I didn't know. When I entered for a sat 58W I couldn't
understand my dish moving East. I didn't trust it enough to loosen my brackets and adjust anything. I think I got what I needed to know now.

Here's what I've got on my screen:
G11/KU 91.0W
LNB type: Universal 1
LNB Local-Freq: 9750/10600
22kHz: ---
DiSEqC: Off
LNB Power: On
0/12 v: 0 Volt
TP: 12060v26.700
Positioner Setting: USALS
Satellite Scan: FTA

I'm not using a switch.
The TP won't stay like that. When I exit it goes back to
10964 v 19.850. ???. Won't save 12060v26.700.

FEC of 3/4, what/where is that?
Is that "Aspect Ratio 4:3 ???

I'll hook my signal meter up and see if I can get a signal
like this. Later.

[F3Beam]

I tried to find a signal with the settings I listed above...
only the TP=10964 v 19.850 as it won't save the 12060v26.700.

I set the little "Satellite Finder," model SF-95, needle on 5.
Moving the assembly I could only get a strength reading of 6.
Adjusting the dish declination slightly increased the reading to 8.
Tried adjusting assembly again but 8 was about the best I could get.
Not as dynamic as I expected.

Came inside. Scanned Satellite G11/KU in FTA mode. Nothing found.
Scanned TP's, nothing found. Are my settings wrong.


My friend up the road ordered a complete Lifetime system w/stab HH motor from Sadoun. He received the "Out of Stock" motor yesterday. I know I'm gonna have to put it up for him. He also received a small satellite signal finder free with his order but it wasn't packed too good
and his signal finder got busted...crushed. Does the Satellite Finder I
borrowed...does the 5 to 8 jump seem normal?

But something isn't right or I should have found a signal on my Lifetime,
which I did not.

[aar5ac]

10964V is not currently an active transponder on G11. I don't have the lifetime receiver I have the 786V3 but with mine after you change a transponder you have to select "save". Or if for some reason it wont let you add a transponder you can change an existing transponder. You can also try 11995 Horizontal with a symbol rate of 3979 and a FEC of 3/4. Yes adjusting the declination on the mount is of course affecting the dish elevation and you adjust the dish to get the strongest signal on the meter. If you come close to maxing the meter out then turn the gain on the meter back for a mid scale reading and try again. There are several sat's between 91W and 93W so you might not be aimed at the right satellite yet. You can move the dish to a spot where there is no sat and turn the gain up until you get a 3 or 4 reading on the meter at the dish and then move again til you get a good hit. That makes the meter more sensitive, only when peaking the dish turn the gain down a bit. Your just about there. Also don't scan FTA right now. Scan in Auto All for the maximum number channels and you can delete later.

[F3Beam]

Where is FEC? I can't find that setting.
I just changed the 0/12v setting to 12 volt and saved.
Went out to get a reading with my Satellite Finder.
This time I set it on 2. Moving assembly/Dish brought
the signal strength up to almost 8. Better than before.

My Lifetime won't allow me to change TP's with this setup.
Maybe if I change LNB type to "Standard"? NOPE! Just tried.
I can change all the other settings and save. But the TP
setting won't save after I change it.

Also, I did a scan for "All." Still nothing.

Your just about there.

Looks more like hopeless to me. :?

[aar5ac]

First of all with the life time receiver I'm assuming you set up the receiver according to the instructions found here.

http://www.sadoun.com/Sat/Products/F...stallation.htm

If you got the lnb from sadoun I belive the setup for that is univeral and you can leave the 12V option to off. I'm not sure why it won't let you save tp info. Maybe someone else can jump in on that as I don't have a lifetime. Don't be so sure your on the right satellite, if it doesn't work on this one than go to the next. You can run thru several satellites in not too much time. Until you can figure out how to change the tp info just move to the next sat and hit scan and if that doens't work move to the next one. If you didn't account for magnetic variation at your location you may think that your close because of your compass but you could be 15 degrees off or more. But, with G11 you really need to figure out how to change the TP info as there are not very many 24/7 signals on G11 right now. The 12060 V sr26700 and the 12005 H sr 3979 both with forward error correction of 3/4 are about the only 24/7 channels on G11 right now. You can set the FEC 3/4 in the transponder menu.

[dtsexpert]

1. The Lifetime does allow users to add new satellites, tranponders. I am not at home so I can't give you the exact steps. I will post the exact steps showing how to add new transponders when I get home. If you can't wait, read the manual or play arround with the receiver. Check out lyngsat.com for the active transponders:
http://www.lyngsat.com/g11.shtml
2. Setting up the h-h mount is a bit tricky and takes some time. I recommend you to take a small TV and your receiver close to the dish, use the built-in signal meter of the receiver. By using the SF95, you only know you get signal locked, but don't know which satellite the dish aims at.
3. Make sure when you aim your dish at true south, the rotation indicator is at 0, lnbf skew is at 0 as well.
4. Make sure the h-h mount elevation = your Lat.
5. Read Sadoun instruction for the fomular to calculate the Dish elevation.
6. Set up the h-h mount and dish elevation correctly. If you can't get locked on G11R, you will need to adjust the DISH elevation up or down. Do not touch the h-h mount elevation.
7. Make sure you set the LO correctly:
Standard : 10750
Universal Low 9750, High 10600.

I don't know what you have done so far. It seems that you don't follow the instruction correctly when you first set it up. Don't feel offended. We are trying to help you.
In my opinion, try to read Sadoun instruction again, then start from the scratch, meaning move the dish back to 0 then aim it at your true south.

Let us know how things going.
Michael

Where is FEC? I can't find that setting.
I just changed the 0/12v setting to 12 volt and saved.
Went out to get a reading with my Satellite Finder.
This time I set it on 2. Moving assembly/Dish brought
the signal strength up to almost 8. Better than before.

My Lifetime won't allow me to change TP's with this setup.
Maybe change LNB type to "Standard"? NOPE! Just tried.
I can change all the other settings and save. But the TP
setting won't save after I change it.

Also, I did a scan for "All." Still nothing.

I think I'm on the right Sat. At this Elev turning the assembly
East gets no other signal. Turning it West a little bit gets another
signal.