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I have installed my Fortec 90cm offset + sg2100 hh motor.

Problem =
According to the sadoun site elevation calculator my dish angle/elevation should be at 48.1 , azumith = 157.5 - 11 = 146.5 magnt. decl. , skew -18.4 clock wise.

According to the SG2100 book my 34N should have a elevation of 90/north pole - 34 = 56 ?? this makes sense ?? Is it correct.

Trying for 97W and I am at ( 34N, 110W )

I get upto fluctuating 68% level but quality is about 0% to 8% Fortec single Universal LNB set to universal + auto for power / on , auto for hh motor power , 22khz = auto

Currently at 34N on SG2100 and 48.1 - 5.51 = 43.5 on dish as in sg2100 install guide for dish. ??
Pole is 100% plumb in all directions.

Also tried this below and analog sat finder skreemed like the world was going to end even after turning it down a lot. With sationary dish + lnb turned.

If you have a good clear shot to the east you may be able to get 58W. The coordinates would be for stationary

-an elevation of only 23

-azimuth compass heading of 124+

-skew of -50

[boroda1]

1. You don't need to set a skew if you have a motor - skew should be 0
2. Before going to 97W, try to get something from your south - most satellite:
Satmex6 maybe at 113W?

[wejones]

Originally Posted by WarraWarra

I have installed my Fortec 90cm offset + sg2100 hh motor.

Problem =
According to the sadoun site elevation calculator my dish angle/elevation should be at 48.1 , azumith = 157.5 - 11 = 146.5 magnt. decl. , skew -18.4 clock wise.

According to the SG2100 book my 34N should have a elevation of 90/north pole - 34 = 56 ?? this makes sense ?? Is it correct.

Trying for 97W and I am at ( 34N, 110W )

I get upto fluctuating 68% level but quality is about 0% to 8% Fortec single Universal LNB set to universal + auto for power / on , auto for hh motor power , 22khz = auto

Currently at 34N on SG2100 and 48.1 - 5.51 = 43.5 on dish as in sg2100 install guide for dish. ??
Pole is 100% plumb in all directions.

Also tried this below and analog sat finder skreemed like the world was going to end even after turning it down a lot. With sationary dish + lnb turned.

If you have a good clear shot to the east you may be able to get 58W. The coordinates would be for stationary

-an elevation of only 23

-azimuth compass heading of 124+

-skew of -50

I suspect that you are confusing numbers for a fixed dish with numbers for a motorized dish. Don't use the calculator that gives you Azimuth and elevation. Those numbers aren't used for a motorized dish. You also should not use any skew. Set your motor latitude scale on your latitude plus about 0.6 degrees. The elevation scale will say 90 minus this number. Your dish elevation setting will be around 24 degrees, but that is just an approximation.

You must first locate your true south satellite, which will be at a magnetic heading of 180 +/- your magnetic declination. Find this sat by fine tuning the dish elevation, and slightly moving the whole mount on the pole. Then locate an extreme sat by only moving the whole mount on the pole, plus bumping the motor slightly with the buttons on the motor.

I moved the dish about 1 min. on a old watch to the east and about a pencil thickness down "bottom of dish movement"
Result = 52% signal and 54% max quality fluctuating on 97W IA5

Analog sat finder turned down to 0 / zero and screeming like a pig at 10.

I looked at the settings and by setting the LNB to 18v the quality dies , 14v and 54% quality ??

Presume it has to do with up down dish movement = out ?
Set LNB to OFF and quality is more stable at 44% -48% weard.

Thank you for the help will try to reset the dish elevation.

I have a strong idea that I am on the wrong sat even though it points to 97W .

I tried a blind scan and it does not want to add the channels even though the quality stay's at 44% - 48% .

Almost there.

ftn-3 5.8594 MS/s 11918 symb 5859 pol H
V-PID 308
Level = 60 Quality = 75%

French voice only 2 others also PID 308 is long beep sound.

Any idea if I am on the correct sat according to the channels ??

[crankbooster]

I can't find any frequency like that on lyngsat on Anik F1r 107.3 W

Looks like it is still pointing to 97w - 110w.

Weard the dish motor moved it earlier today.

Thank you.

Okay the FTN / ETN is on ANIK F1, F1R 107.3W .
Why only thess channels ??

Found it via Old SatcoDX nothing I could see on Lyngsat.

The Level = 46% with the quality at 66% LNB focal point ??

Why the sg2100 does not move from sat to sat = ?? the fine movement 1 step to 5 step works from the receiver.

Maybe a reset on the motor might works ?? And a slight adjustment to 110W instead of 107.3W for true South.

Heck but it was cold on the roof LOL.

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[wejones]

Originally Posted by WarraWarra

I moved the dish about 1 min. on a old watch to the east and about a pencil thickness down "bottom of dish movement"
Result = 52% signal and 54% max quality fluctuating on 97W IA5

Analog sat finder turned down to 0 / zero and screeming like a pig at 10.

I looked at the settings and by setting the LNB to 18v the quality dies , 14v and 54% quality ??

Presume it has to do with up down dish movement = out ?
Set LNB to OFF and quality is more stable at 44% -48% weard.

Thank you for the help will try to reset the dish elevation.

It seems to me like you are just blindly searching for sats rather than following any of the directions at web pages or what people are suggesting. I would really suggest that you just start over from scratch, and follow the directions. (And follow the directions for motorized dishes, not fixed dishes.)
You should forget about IA5 or any other sat until you are aligned on your true south sat.

I have followed the instructions to the bone / 100% problem is that when the little manual of the SG2100 states for 34N you need the motor at 34N and the dish angle of 56 then that is what I do.
This was a bit confusing but not the problem.

If this is then incorrect I go back to the website and try the calculator settings / try again.
48.1 and the corrected 146.5 .

Yes that was stupid of me but why do they include this in the instalation instructions of the actual device.
Confusing but not problem. Live goes on

Where the ACTUAL PROBLEM CAME in and a I am sure there will be noise about this = I had to improvise. As I stated I stay in hell AZ so aliens land here

The compass holding it level with 99.5% the same distance in between the bottom and the floating wheel
I get several different NORTH 0 readings on different parts of my property.

Also I had the compas standing for 60min.+ on any location and level to make sure I do not mess it up = different reading. I even asked someone else to do it as well to make sure = no error = still error.
Even on the metal plate on the chimney north 0 = NY, NY = north ??

Finally I got agro and guessed a approxamate looking at the street / maps / north on it and the -11deg as is my deviation , adjusted and tried for IA5 as this was likely where I was pointing too.

Guessing that I was a bit off I tried to scan IA5 97W to verify where the heck I am pointing at after getting a 100% noise / signal on analog sat finder.

Not knowing where I was = (I was close and the dish pointed to 107.3W instead of 110W), Darn I got onto a satellite WOW.

The asking of where the FTN /ETN was is to verify the incorrect / missing info on LYNGSAT as I could not find it on IA5 97W or the other 10 satellites to the east or 10 to the west of 97W on lyngsat website.

And previous suggestion = satcodx that had the info = useless and a waist of time. So I had to verify ?? not using satcodx.

Currently =
All I have to do is to move the install 2.8 deg to 110W and change the focal point by moving LNB = jackpot making sure motor is on 0 / reset and dish as still on 0 as instructed and installed fromthe beginning on the 100% plumb no huricane can move it pole.

I even manually scanned / moved dish to close to 129W and several others + 2.8deg adjustment / stepping and I found several satellites.

No channels yet as the lnb is completely forward in lnb bracket insted of the 3cm in the middle as I figured out this morning.

65% level and 65% quality on average depending on trasnponder and satellite = this is with sucking my thumb LOL Imagine what I can do with working propper equipment. I must be a redneck LOL

Thanks for the helps guy's this first install is fun and frostbite almost.

[slotzero]

Cool - sounds like an entertaining process at least! I can understand frostbite - it's hardly busted 20 deg F here where I am for several days... hence the reason my install won't start until March!

[rainman]

Originally Posted by slotzero

Cool - sounds like an entertaining process at least! I can understand frostbite - it's hardly busted 20 deg F here where I am for several days... hence the reason my install won't start until March!

yep to cold for me also got some stuff to do but it has to get warmer first.LOL

[wejones]

Originally Posted by WarraWarra

I have followed the instructions to the bone / 100% problem is that when the little manual of the SG2100 states for 34N you need the motor at 34N and the dish angle of 56 then that is what I do.
This was a bit confusing but not the problem.

The 56 is not the dish elevation, it is the setting on the other side of your motor. One side says latitude, the other side says elevation, which is 90 minus your latitude. I would recommend using about 0.6 degrees more than your latitude. Ie 34.6 and/or 55.4 , and instead of the 5.51 declination angle, I'd recommend using about 4.9 instead.

Originally Posted by WarraWarra

If this is then incorrect I go back to the website and try the calculator settings / try again.
48.1 and the corrected 146.5 .

Yes that was stupid of me but why do they include this in the instalation instructions of the actual device.

As I tried to suggest above, these numbers came from the section discussing how to install a fixed dish, not a motorized dish. Azimuth / elevation is not involved in the process of aligning a motorized dish.

Originally Posted by WarraWarra

Confusing but not problem. Live goes on

Where the ACTUAL PROBLEM CAME in and a I am sure there will be noise about this = I had to improvise. As I stated I stay in hell AZ so aliens land here

The compass holding it level with 99.5% the same distance in between the bottom and the floating wheel
I get several different NORTH 0 readings on different parts of my property.

Me too. I prefer to use the sun to determine headings.

Originally Posted by WarraWarra

Also I had the compas standing for 60min.+ on any location and level to make sure I do not mess it up = different reading. I even asked someone else to do it as well to make sure = no error = still error.
Even on the metal plate on the chimney north 0 = NY, NY = north ??

Now you got me even more confused. Where does NY come into this? I thought you were in Arizona??

Originally Posted by WarraWarra

Finally I got agro and guessed a approxamate looking at the street / maps / north on it and the -11deg as is my deviation , adjusted and tried for IA5 as this was likely where I was pointing too.

Again, since this is a motorized system, first find your due south sat. Forget about IA5. I think that you may be confused because some web pages give IA5 as an example, but it's just an example. Find your due south satellite first. If you're in Arizona, then that's probably Anik F2, however you won't be able to see anything on KU on that sat, so you should probably use Satmex6 or possibly the 110 Dishnet sat, depending on what side of Arizona you're in. You are completely wasting your time looking for IA5 until you have located and set the dish elevation on your southerly sat. And once you HAVE done that, you should not touch ANY elevation adjustments when on IA5.

Originally Posted by WarraWarra

Guessing that I was a bit off I tried to scan IA5 97W to verify where the heck I am pointing at after getting a 100% noise / signal on analog sat finder.

Not knowing where I was = (I was close and the dish pointed to 107.3W instead of 110W), Darn I got onto a satellite WOW.

As I mentioned in other response, you are just blindly searching, changing all sorts of adjustments, which is hopeless. What you are doing is common, and the "WOW" part of your post is part of the reason, ie people see a signal, and say WOW, I must be close, and start changing things, but you are really making things worse. It is really a simple 3 step process. (1) set your motor angle as best you can, ie the 34.6 latitude setting, and also set your dish elevation to about 25 degrees. (2) FIND YOUR TRUE SOUTH SATELLITE, using dish elevation and by moving the whole mount on the pole. (3) then use USALS to move to a sat far to your east by moving the whole mount on the pole, and bumping the motor with the buttons on the motor. Don't touch any elevation settings unless you're on your south sat.

Originally Posted by WarraWarra

The asking of where the FTN /ETN was is to verify the incorrect / missing info on LYNGSAT as I could not find it on IA5 97W or the other 10 satellites to the east or 10 to the west of 97W on lyngsat website.

And previous suggestion = satcodx that had the info = useless and a waist of time. So I had to verify ?? not using satcodx.

SatCodx is not very up to date. Lyngsat is much better, but even it is often out of date. You are best off asking on the forum what transponder to use on whatever sat you're looking for, and then set your receiver on that transponder. Sounds like you must have been doing blind scans and just happened to come up with these channels?

Originally Posted by WarraWarra

Currently =
All I have to do is to move the install 2.8 deg to 110W and change the focal point by moving LNB = jackpot making sure motor is on 0 / reset and dish as still on 0 as instructed and installed fromthe beginning on the 100% plumb no huricane can move it pole.

From this, I assume that your latitude is 110? If so, perhaps the Dishnet 110 is a good sat to look for as your southern sat. This is a CP sat, but you can probably lock 12224 or 12239 with a linear lnbf. 12239 even has one fta demo channel.

Originally Posted by WarraWarra

I even manually scanned / moved dish to close to 129W and several others + 2.8deg adjustment / stepping and I found several satellites.

No channels yet as the lnb is completely forward in lnb bracket insted of the 3cm in the middle as I figured out this morning.

I really doubt that this made any difference.

[slotzero]

Originally Posted by wejones

As I mentioned in other response, you are just blindly searching, changing all sorts of adjustments, which is hopeless. What you are doing is common, and the "WOW" part of your post is part of the reason, ie people see a signal, and say WOW, I must be close, and start changing things, but you are really making things worse. It is really a simple 3 step process. (1) set your motor angle as best you can, ie the 34.6 latitude setting, and also set your dish elevation to about 25 degrees. (2) FIND YOUR TRUE SOUTH SATELLITE, using dish elevation and by moving the whole mount on the pole. (3) then use USALS to move to a sat far to your east by moving the whole mount on the pole, and bumping the motor with the buttons on the motor. Don't touch any elevation settings unless you're on your south sat.

Thanks for this Bill - I'm keeping this noted to avoid what seem to be the common temptations of first installs...

Okay the 5.51 or 4.9 declination I am at a loss here.
48 - 4.9 ?
Tried it with 5.51 yesterday and hand moved it but reasonable , tried it back at 48.3 about = current channels , weard , motor on 34N

Currently on Echo 6,8 110w right above me with 61 video and 2 audio listening to 1 of the audio.
V-PID 8192 A-PID 634 P-PID 8191 Freq 12530 H symbl. 20000 Echo 6,8 110w

I was on the roof + receiver and tv to get it to where it is now.
All other settings as you described except declination.

I tried to move the dish by hands very slowly and can not get it any better than current. Even moved LNB in / out not much change even softly tried to move lnb arm in / out as I thought it might be bent no improvement.

Level 45% to 65% and quality from 45% to 83% depending on transponder on Echo 6,8 110w due south.

34.05N 110.06W

Just need to get the SG2100 moving again = no light on.

Thanks for the help.

The SG2100 part the the dish mounts on is just shy of plumb when at 34N possibly 3-6deg if even that much not sure. Weard the pole on the side of the chimney is 100% plumb in all directions.

Maybe I am jsut a bit tired LOL have to tae a break from this so my mind can start working again

PS> NY, NY is where the compass showed 0 / north on the chimney LOL yes I am still in AZ . It cracked me up laughing then I knew it was messed up. LOL