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01-03-2007, 01:57 PM
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Installation almost there
Hello everyone.
First let me thank everyone for the help and time taken to inform new users like myself also I would like to thank Sadoun for a very quick turn around in a small problem with my order I will always buy from Sadoun.
Now for my question , I hope someone has a quick suggestion or fix.
I have the system shown on my signature I hope it will show ,
I live in Palm Bay FLorida. My coodinates are 28.01N and 80.67W and my true South is 186, dish elevation is 25.33.
I am using AMC5 79W as my true South Sat.
I have manage to get :
PAS9 58W
AMC5 79W
G11 91W
G3C 95W
IA5 97W
AMC4 101W
AMC1 103W
SatMex5 116.8W
Galaxy10RK 123W
My question is I want to get the Sats below but they are not comming in I must need to adjust someting but not sure what, I get 58W and 79W but not 72W and the same way on the other side of 79W. I did have to set my dish elevation at 20.
AMC6 72W
AMC3 87W
IA6 93W
and eventually Hispat 30W.
Again thanks in advance .

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01-03-2007, 03:33 PM
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did you set your motor to your latitude if so you may need to move the whole assembly east or west a little on the pole it sounds like you are either to high or low on your southern sats. 
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01-03-2007, 03:46 PM
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Thanks raiman
I have the motor latitude scale set at 28 same as my location. I will try that. Boy is really tricky one small movement and things disapear.
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01-03-2007, 03:56 PM
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If you're kinda happy with the setup, you might experiment to just set your degrees for satellite 72W, go into setup for that sat, and put in 71.5W, or 72.5W. Have it "move" a little using USALS, save and then go back to your transponder screen and see if you are getting any signal on known good transponder for 72w.
If you get connected, there you go. Kinda "fudge" your way into getting lined up.
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01-03-2007, 04:24 PM
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Thanks pmb1010
I have to say I did try and use the receiver to bump the dish at that location a little East and West using disqec 1.2 after the original location from USALS, not sure if that takes care of any skew. Does changing the sat coord like to 71.5W takes care of the skew?
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01-03-2007, 04:28 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by melbfla
Thanks raiman
I have the motor latitude scale set at 28 same as my location. I will try that. Boy is really tricky one small movement and things disapear.
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I know what you mean 1/8" movement and its gone. just make slow small adjustments and allow time for receiver to see the change.I mark the mount and pole so i can see how far i've moved or so i can go back to where i was getting signal. 
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Rainman's Equipment
Undien 4600,DSR 922
Fortec Ultra, Satworks 3618
2 Fortec Mercury II
Fortec Classic NA
8.5' Orbitron polar C Ku dish
8.5' Birdview HH C Ku dish
100cm Fortec dish
90cm Fortec dish
2 DG-240 HH motors
Co Rotor II feed horn
Norsat 8515 C band lnb
Norsat 4506A Ku lnb
BSC-621-2 Lnbf
Invacom QPH-031 Lnbf
Invacom SNH-031 Lnbf
Fortec Fsku-v universal Lnbf
V-Box
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01-03-2007, 04:30 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by melbfla
Thanks pmb1010
I have to say I did try and use the receiver to bump the dish at that location a little East and West using disqec 1.2 after the original location from USALS, not sure if that takes care of any skew. Does changing the sat coord like to 71.5W takes care of the skew?
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set skew at 0 when on your true south setting when motor moves it will control skew by the normal tilt of the dish as it is moving. 
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Rainman's Equipment
Undien 4600,DSR 922
Fortec Ultra, Satworks 3618
2 Fortec Mercury II
Fortec Classic NA
8.5' Orbitron polar C Ku dish
8.5' Birdview HH C Ku dish
100cm Fortec dish
90cm Fortec dish
2 DG-240 HH motors
Co Rotor II feed horn
Norsat 8515 C band lnb
Norsat 4506A Ku lnb
BSC-621-2 Lnbf
Invacom QPH-031 Lnbf
Invacom SNH-031 Lnbf
Fortec Fsku-v universal Lnbf
V-Box
I Like To Shop at Sadoun Satellite Sales.www.sadoun.com
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01-03-2007, 04:36 PM
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One other suggestion, you may have already checked,is when you get to one of the sats. you aren't getting is go into menu and see if you have the correct lo set for that sat. 
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01-03-2007, 05:27 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by melbfla
Hello everyone.
First let me thank everyone for the help and time taken to inform new users like myself also I would like to thank Sadoun for a very quick turn around in a small problem with my order I will always buy from Sadoun.
Now for my question , I hope someone has a quick suggestion or fix.
I have the system shown on my signature I hope it will show ,
I live in Palm Bay FLorida. My coodinates are 28.01N and 80.67W and my true South is 186, dish elevation is 25.33.
I am using AMC5 79W as my true South Sat.
I have manage to get :
PAS9 58W
AMC5 79W
G11 91W
G3C 95W
IA5 97W
AMC4 101W
AMC1 103W
SatMex5 116.8W
Galaxy10RK 123W
My question is I want to get the Sats below but they are not comming in I must need to adjust someting but not sure what, I get 58W and 79W but not 72W and the same way on the other side of 79W. I did have to set my dish elevation at 20.
AMC6 72W
AMC3 87W
IA6 93W
and eventually Hispat 30W.
Again thanks in advance .

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Boy, if you're getting that much of the arc, I really think you've got the alignment pretty close, so before messing with the alignment, I'd check other things first. How are you looking for these sats? If you're looking for a single transponder, make sure that it's an active transponder. If you're doing a blind scan, these sometimes miss things. I'd put the thing on a known transponder, then go out to the dish, and bump the motor a bit east/west, and have someone watch the TV to see if you get a lock. You might be just a bit out of sync. Just enough to miss some channels. Although I can't imagine you missing the 12144 channel on AMC6, except that it is a bit on the narrow side. Ie sometimes blind searches don't pick up narrow transponders as well, particularly depending on what mode you choose. I'd park on the 12144 transponder, and give it a while to lock.
On IA6, I'd look for the Mexican channel, ie 12076. On AMC3, I'd look for either 12180 or 12145.
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01-04-2007, 09:06 AM
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Good Morning.
First thanks to rainman, pmb1010,satnutwillb, and specially wejones, and to all others that take the time to answer and write hints and articles to help new people to the hobby.
Wejones you where absolutly correct  I did add transporters from the Lyngsat charts and bingo!!!  all the missing stuff started showing up. I can even get Hispat 30W . I can sweep the whole arc and get all the sats
Galaxy10r 123W. Now I have to look at every sat and the guide and add whatever transpoters I am missing .
I am also picking up some locktigth to put on all the adjusting bolts, and extra nuts so I can lock the present nuts in place, do not want it to come loose , all the instructions I got from the Sadun site and reading articles here made it somewhat easy to install.
Again many thanks.
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[FONT=Verdana][SIZE=2][URL="http://sadoun.com/Sat/Products/Fortec-Star/Receivers/Fortec-Star-CLASSIC-Blind-Search-receiver-New.htm"][COLOR=#0000ff]Fortec Star Lifetime [B]CLASSIC NA[/B] FTA Digital satellite receiver[/COLOR][/URL][/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana][SIZE=2][URL="http://sadoun.com/Sat/Products/S/SG2100-Digipower-hh-motor.htm"][COLOR=#0000ff]Digipower SG-2100 DiSEqC Motor[/COLOR][/URL][/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana][SIZE=2][URL="http://sadoun.com/Sat/Products/Fortec-Star/Dishes/FC080CM-31-inch-offset-ku-band-satellite-dish-antenna.htm"][COLOR=#0000ff]Fortec 36" FC90U Dish[/COLOR][/URL][/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana][SIZE=2][URL="http://sadoun.com/Sat/Products/Fortec-Star/LNBF/FSKU-v04-Fortec-Star-Universal-LNBF.htm"][COLOR=#0000ff]Fortec universal 0.4dB Single KU LNBF[/COLOR][/URL]. [/SIZE][/FONT]
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01-04-2007, 10:01 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by melbfla
Good Morning.
First thanks to rainman, pmb1010,satnutwillb, and specially wejones, and to all others that take the time to answer and write hints and articles to help new people to the hobby.
Wejones you where absolutly correct  I did add transporters from the Lyngsat charts and bingo!!!  all the missing stuff started showing up. I can even get Hispat 30W . I can sweep the whole arc and get all the sats
Galaxy10r 123W. Now I have to look at every sat and the guide and add whatever transpoters I am missing .
I am also picking up some locktigth to put on all the adjusting bolts, and extra nuts so I can lock the present nuts in place, do not want it to come loose , all the instructions I got from the Sadun site and reading articles here made it somewhat easy to install.
Again many thanks.
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glad to here you got it figure out would not use loctite on the bolts may have to readjust in the future due to wind storm or something of that nature. 
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Rainman's Equipment
Undien 4600,DSR 922
Fortec Ultra, Satworks 3618
2 Fortec Mercury II
Fortec Classic NA
8.5' Orbitron polar C Ku dish
8.5' Birdview HH C Ku dish
100cm Fortec dish
90cm Fortec dish
2 DG-240 HH motors
Co Rotor II feed horn
Norsat 8515 C band lnb
Norsat 4506A Ku lnb
BSC-621-2 Lnbf
Invacom QPH-031 Lnbf
Invacom SNH-031 Lnbf
Fortec Fsku-v universal Lnbf
V-Box
I Like To Shop at Sadoun Satellite Sales.www.sadoun.com
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