c band lnb

[wasim]

any idia about c band satelitte if i have 120 dish with hh moter how many satelitte can i access. and i can watch.

[rainman]

you won't be able to get all of the c band with a 120 dish just to small. if you want to receive all the c band sats you will need a 8.5 ft dish.
you can receive some of the c band on a 120 mostly used for expeirmenting.

[wasim]

Originally Posted by rainman

you won't be able to get all of the c band with a 120 dish just to small. if you want to receive all the c band sats you will need a 8.5 ft dish.
you can receive some of the c band on a 120 mostly used for expeirmenting.

thanks for reply

[rainman]

you are welcome.

[pmb1010]

I have the BSC-621-2 Combo C and Ku band lnb on a 120cm motorized dish.
At this time, I have it slaved off a Lifetime Ultra to an analog C band receiver. Bought a General Instruments 650i reciever from ebay.
It works fairly well. I have limited line of sight, so I can see from 85w to about 103w. It is a lot of work to use this setup, as you must set the Ultra to the sat to view, then pick V or H on the settings screen. Now cycle thru the channels on the C band box, looking for viewable signals (every other channel is V). Then switch the ultra to H, and go thru the channels again. Normally, the C band box switches the polarity automatically, and in this setup it will not do this.

I can watch a few feeds on AMC3. University Network (Doc Scott) comes in, but it's kinda sparkly, but watchable. 5 of 10. Found some college football, and the Indy race was on earlier today.

Galaxy 11- Shop at home comes in pretty good, 8 of 10. WE is subscription, and The Independent Film channel comes in very good. 9 of 10. I actually subscribed to IFC in order to authorize the VC2-RS decoder on my analog box ($6.50/year) and it worked... about 65 on the receiver gauge.

on IA6, there are a few feeds, the Tenmax and TenXtasy come in very strong ("no subscription for this channel") but they'd be viewable, I get 60 to 65 on the receiver scale. I watched some CNBC feeds.

On G3C, there are now and again feeds. Some viewable, some not so good.

On IA5, I have not found too much. Maybe not looking at the right time.

On G4R I got an ABC feed for good morning america, came in very well. The World Harvest and Shepherd's channel come in OK, 8 of 10. I watched Tony Danza, and couple other shows on Buena Vista feeds on Ch 17.

I'd love to try to see what a 922 C band digital receiver would get, but they go for $300+ on ebay these days, 7 times what I paid for analog receiver. Too much money just to fool around. If I had line of sight to the western end of the arc, I'd get a 10 foot dish for sure.

[Sadoun]

Check our BSC621-2 C / KU Band combined LNBF

[wasim]

Originally Posted by Sadoun

Check our BSC621-2 C / KU Band combined LNBF

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[wasim]

Originally Posted by pmb1010

I have the BSC-621-2 Combo C and Ku band lnb on a 120cm motorized dish.
At this time, I have it slaved off a Lifetime Ultra to an analog C band receiver. Bought a General Instruments 650i reciever from ebay.
It works fairly well. I have limited line of sight, so I can see from 85w to about 103w. It is a lot of work to use this setup, as you must set the Ultra to the sat to view, then pick V or H on the settings screen. Now cycle thru the channels on the C band box, looking for viewable signals (every other channel is V). Then switch the ultra to H, and go thru the channels again. Normally, the C band box switches the polarity automatically, and in this setup it will not do this.

I can watch a few feeds on AMC3. University Network (Doc Scott) comes in, but it's kinda sparkly, but watchable. 5 of 10. Found some college football, and the Indy race was on earlier today.

Galaxy 11- Shop at home comes in pretty good, 8 of 10. WE is subscription, and The Independent Film channel comes in very good. 9 of 10. I actually subscribed to IFC in order to authorize the VC2-RS decoder on my analog box ($6.50/year) and it worked... about 65 on the receiver gauge.

on IA6, there are a few feeds, the Tenmax and TenXtasy come in very strong ("no subscription for this channel") but they'd be viewable, I get 60 to 65 on the receiver scale. I watched some CNBC feeds.

On G3C, there are now and again feeds. Some viewable, some not so good.

On IA5, I have not found too much. Maybe not looking at the right time.

On G4R I got an ABC feed for good morning america, came in very well. The World Harvest and Shepherd's channel come in OK, 8 of 10. I watched Tony Danza, and couple other shows on Buena Vista feeds on Ch 17.

I'd love to try to see what a 922 C band digital receiver would get, but they go for $300+ on ebay these days, 7 times what I paid for analog receiver. Too much money just to fool around. If I had line of sight to the western end of the arc, I'd get a 10 foot dish for sure.

it is asoume info thanks alot .and very helpful.

[elgemcdlf]

Originally Posted by pmb1010

I have the BSC-621-2 Combo C and Ku band lnb on a 120cm motorized dish.
At this time, I have it slaved off a Lifetime Ultra to an analog C band receiver. Bought a General Instruments 650i reciever from ebay.
It works fairly well. I have limited line of sight, so I can see from 85w to about 103w. It is a lot of work to use this setup, as you must set the Ultra to the sat to view, then pick V or H on the settings screen. Now cycle thru the channels on the C band box, looking for viewable signals (every other channel is V). Then switch the ultra to H, and go thru the channels again. Normally, the C band box switches the polarity automatically, and in this setup it will not do this.

I can watch a few feeds on AMC3. University Network (Doc Scott) comes in, but it's kinda sparkly, but watchable. 5 of 10. Found some college football, and the Indy race was on earlier today.

Galaxy 11- Shop at home comes in pretty good, 8 of 10. WE is subscription, and The Independent Film channel comes in very good. 9 of 10. I actually subscribed to IFC in order to authorize the VC2-RS decoder on my analog box ($6.50/year) and it worked... about 65 on the receiver gauge.

on IA6, there are a few feeds, the Tenmax and TenXtasy come in very strong ("no subscription for this channel") but they'd be viewable, I get 60 to 65 on the receiver scale. I watched some CNBC feeds.

On G3C, there are now and again feeds. Some viewable, some not so good.

On IA5, I have not found too much. Maybe not looking at the right time.

On G4R I got an ABC feed for good morning america, came in very well. The World Harvest and Shepherd's channel come in OK, 8 of 10. I watched Tony Danza, and couple other shows on Buena Vista feeds on Ch 17.

I'd love to try to see what a 922 C band digital receiver would get, but they go for $300+ on ebay these days, 7 times what I paid for analog receiver. Too much money just to fool around. If I had line of sight to the western end of the arc, I'd get a 10 foot dish for sure.

The Motorola DSR922 does both C and Ku analog and digital. It is capable of handling lnbf's BUT does not get along well with the lnbf of topic. As I understand it the lo is 150 below what the 922 can handle. As I understand this is only on the Ku side. But as stated an aweful lot of money for a receiver that you could only use for C band with this lnbf. You would also feed from each side of the lnbf and slave from there.

[pmb1010]

Let me ask this (probably obvious question...)

Since I have Ultra for C & Ku band digital, and GI 650i for C & Ku band analog, do I esentially have what a DSR922 would receive?

(other than trying to receive encrypted digital... which would be a waste, since I cant see sats over in the 125w range due to trees - doenst it need to see one of them for authorization and guide downloads?)

[wejones]

Originally Posted by pmb1010

Let me ask this (probably obvious question...)

Since I have Ultra for C & Ku band digital, and GI 650i for C & Ku band analog, do I esentially have what a DSR922 would receive?

(other than trying to receive encrypted digital... which would be a waste, since I cant see sats over in the 125w range due to trees - doenst it need to see one of them for authorization and guide downloads?)

You won't have the C/Ku DCII . If you'd get a commercial receiver like the 4200, you'd get the FP and ZK DCII stuff, but couldn't subscribe to any scrambled service, on the other hand, with a receiver like the 922, there are some DCII signals that aren't mapped, which you can't get to.

You never have too many receivers.

EDIT: Also, the 922 or 4200 can't receive the FTA DVB signals either. so they don't really duplicate each other.

[wejones]

Originally Posted by elgemcdlf

The Motorola DSR922 does both C and Ku analog and digital. It is capable of handling lnbf's BUT does not get along well with the lnbf of topic. As I understand it the lo is 150 below what the 922 can handle....

Until you mentioned this a few weeks ago, I hadn't thought of this, and almost made a mistake by ordering a universal lnbf. The same would be true for my two 4200 DCII receivers. Ie, the virtual channel table on the DCII receivers assumes that the 11700-12200 band is downconverted in the 950-1450 band, however like you say, with a 10600 LO instead of 10750 LO, this would be downconverted from 1100-1600, meaning that every channel in the VCT would be off frequency by 150. I could lock on the transponder by entering a freq 150 higher, however as soon as the VCT downloads, and I tried to change channel, it would change the freq to what it thinks it should be.

Anyway, I had never thought of that, and I'm glad I got a standard LNBF, because I was planning on using it with my DCII receiver.
Thanks.

[pmb1010]

is there anything on 85w to 103w in C band DCII "fixed key"/non-subscribed FTA viewable, worth watching?

[elgemcdlf]

Originally Posted by wejones

You won't have the C/Ku DCII . If you'd get a commercial receiver like the 4200, you'd get the FP and ZK DCII stuff, but couldn't subscribe to any scrambled service, on the other hand, with a receiver like the 922, there are some DCII signals that aren't mapped, which you can't get to.

You never have too many receivers.

EDIT: Also, the 922 or 4200 can't receive the FTA DVB signals either. so they don't really duplicate each other.

Everything looks good here except I can get unmapped signals. It is all in knowing how to use the receiver. If you can provide me with IF and speed along with the sat it is being transmitted on I can usually get it. The key is knowing your channel maps. There are also a few "hidden" toys with the 922. Also some plain obvious but you need to know how to use them properly.

What I can not get is Megapipe. And a DVB MPEG2 receiver and DSR922 compliment each other. There are many channels that are broadcast on both though.

If you own a 4DTV receiver you can join the Owners Only area over at satforums and from there will learn how to really use the receiver.

[wejones]

Originally Posted by elgemcdlf

Everything looks good here except I can get unmapped signals. It is all in knowing how to use the receiver. If you can provide me with IF and speed along with the sat it is being transmitted on I can usually get it. The key is knowing your channel maps. There are also a few "hidden" toys with the 922. Also some plain obvious but you need to know how to use them properly.

I think the 40 or so {edit :"XXXXXXX" } channels is a good example of things that the 4DTV doesn't pick up well even knowing the tricks. How many of them do you get?

Bottom line is, by knowing the tricks you can get most unmapped things, but I'm pretty sure not all.

EDIT: Edited to "XXXXX" out name of feed. I probably shouldn't have mentioned it here. But Steve got info.