Help setting up dish 1000.

[hyperasus]

Hey guys, great forum you have going here. I am pretty new to this stuff so hope I don’t come off as too noobish. Anyways. I am trying to set up a dish 1000 to use with my 622 receiver. Been playing around with it for a few days and just cant seem to get 129 locked in quite right. Signal on 129 goes up and down from cutting clear out all the way up too a signal of 85. There is absolutely nothing blocking the dish and not a cloud in the sky so this is very confusing to me.

Does anyone know of a calculator that will give me Azimuth, Elevation and Skew for dish 1000 based off my longitude, latitude? All I can find is the calculator built in to my 622 which only lets me enter in zip code.

Any help or insight is much appreciated.

[boroda1]

How is the signal from 119, is it OK?
Calculator in receiver should be OK for start.
After you are getting ANY signal, forget about calculator, and just listen for beep tones. Aim at 119 first, also you can cover the 110 side of "twin" LNB with foil, so it does not distract.

[hyperasus]

The problem is that I do not have any idea what my Skew should be. Zip code does me no good since I am outside the continental US and I have no zip code. Any reason why the signal would go up and down on sat 129 even though there are no clouds? 110 and 119 have worked flawless for years now. I looked up the footprint of 129 and the map shows I am well within its covered area so I'm pretty sure that is not a problem.

Could someone that knows more about this let me pm them my longitude,latidude and they could calculate where I should have my skew set.

[boroda1]

1).There are two satellites at 129ºW, which footprint you looked at?
Echo5 or IA7?
2). Lots of online calculators exist, like on Sadoun's site, why don't use one?
Skew does not matter for circular LNB, just check Azimut and Elevation for 129 ONLY.

[hyperasus]

I'm such a noob I didn't know there was two sats at 129. I am going to look into that now. All the calculators I can find are not made to work with dish 1000. I have a single dish trying to read off 3 different satellites. If there are 2 sats at 129 then perhaps this could be why my signal is fluctuationg up and down?

[pictureon]

Originally Posted by boroda1

1).Skew does not matter for circular LNB, just check Azimut and Elevation for 129 ONLY.

This is not correct for dish1000. If you want to get all 3 satellites then your skew must be correct.

[pictureon]

Originally Posted by hyperasus

If there are 2 sats at 129 then perhaps this could be why my signal is fluctuationg up and down?

I do not think that's the reason. The 2 satellites on 129 are completely different. One weak linear and another strong circular(dish 129).

If you want to get all 3 satellites (dish 1000) then your settings must be correct including skew. If you have everything Ok you should get the highest signal possible from 129 when you get 119. Where's your location?

[boroda1]

Originally Posted by pictureon

This is not correct for dish1000. If you want to get all 3 satellites then your skew must be correct.

Should correct myself: I just advised to aim the 1000 DIRECTLY to 129W, to see, is the signal available or not. If this experiment is successfull, then he needs to do a skew/Elevation adjustment to get signal from all three satellites. Consider "skew" in this case as an elevation adjustment:
Depending on a location, one sat will be lower, other two - higher.

[hyperasus]

I am going to try aiming to only 129 today like boroda1 is saying. If that works then I may just put up a second dish for 129 since finding the correct scew for dish 1000 is next to impossible. We reaaaally need a dish 1000 calculator that uses something besides zip code. Weird thing is, I can get it to work kind of. I have my 622 reading all three satellites (110,119,and 129), but, it just cuts out too much like it needs aimed better. I can move the skew ALOT and it still works. 129 seems to be the one that cuts out the most so I tried peaking on 129 with the scew but still no luck. I just don't have the experience with aiming these to be winging it on the settings. I think if I knew where it was suppose to be set then I could probably get it working.

My longitude latitude is 28N 106W. If anyone knows how to calculate dish 1000 settings based off that I would greatly appreciate it. I didn't mention my location before because I didn't really want a lecture on whether or not it was legal to take my dish box outside the US. I'm a paid subscriber so I don't see any reason why dishnet would care so long as they are getting their monthly payments. I appreciate the help guys. Great forum.

[hyperasus]

Ok got it all up and running using a second dish for 129. Those dish 1000 are just harder to aim what can I say. Still curios how to find dish 1000 settings using longitude latitude.

[boroda1]

Closest zip code to you is El Paso 79916.
Because longitude is the same 106W, skew should be very similar

[elgemcdlf]

Originally Posted by boroda1

1).There are two satellites at 129ºW, which footprint you looked at?
Echo5 or IA7?
2). Lots of online calculators exist, like on Sadoun's site, why don't use one?
Skew does not matter for circular LNB, just check Azimut and Elevation for 129 ONLY.

1. In this case this does not matter as he is using a Dish 1000 which is all circular so IA7 will not even show.

2. With a multilnbf DTV or DN dish the skew rotates the dish as to draw stronger signal from all sats required. You basically are trying to match the arc shape with the dish. Has nothing to do with lnbf's other than placing them correctly to trap signal from the desired sats.

[elgemcdlf]

Originally Posted by hyperasus

Ok got it all up and running using a second dish for 129. Those dish 1000 are just harder to aim what can I say. Still curios how to find dish 1000 settings using longitude latitude.

Drive by your local Dish Network installer and they most likely have an operational dish low to the ground. Check what settings they use. I also thought the receiver told you this info once you put your zip code in.