How do I get this????

[lostinthewoods]

I am trying to get GPTV on TP 14 on AMC3 87°W in accordance with the info posted on Lynsat. Portion of page shown in attached file.

On tp 14, I am getting a signal of 74% and quality of 90-99% on my Pansat 2700. The dish is a primestar and the lnb is QPH-031.

I get lots of the other channels with no problem, but would like to get GPTV PBS. I have done several scans etc to no avail.

I am sure I am missing something, but don't know what. Any info would be appreciated.

Thanks in advance.


Lost

[rainman]

that is digicypher channel you have to have a receiver that decodes digicypher. 4 dtv dsr922 or a commercial receiver. sorry lost.

[wejones]

Originally Posted by lostinthewoods

I am trying to get GPTV on TP 14 on AMC3 87°W in accordance with the info posted on Lynsat. Portion of page shown in attached file.

On tp 14, I am getting a signal of 74% and quality of 90-99% on my Pansat 2700. The dish is a primestar and the lnb is QPH-031.

I get lots of the other channels with no problem, but would like to get GPTV PBS. I have done several scans etc to no avail.

I am sure I am missing something, but don't know what. Any info would be appreciated.

Thanks in advance.


Lost

I'm not familiar with the Pansat 2700, but I'd have to assume that it is a FTA receiver, not a DCII receiver ??? I know that there are a couple non-GI/Motorola DCII receivers, but I didn't think that any Pansats could do DCII, but maybe I'm wrong??
However assuming that it is NOT a DCII receiver, then I'm amazed that you could get any quality on that transponder, because usually FTA receivers can't even lock on DCII channels. So I'm confused either way.
If the 2700 happens to actually be a DCII receiver, then I'd be interested in the details, particularly, can it lock on any other FP signal? Ie some DCII receivers can only lock on ZK (unencrypted) signals, and I would think that this would be likely for a non GI/Motorola receiver.
The GPTV signal is an FP signal, ie encrypted, but encrypted with a fixed key known to GI/Motorola receivers, and typically any receiver that has been authorized to receive any DCII signal can receive FP signals, even if you aren't authorized for that signal.
So, if your receiver CAN do DCII, can you receive the main PBS-X channels on that same sat, ie the ones on 12096 or 12180? They are also FP.
However, if the 2700 is only a FTA receiver, then you can't do it, and I have no idea how you managed to get quality (ie a lock) on it, because an FTA receiver shouldn't be able to do that.
So, what kind of receiver is the 2700, you have me curious and confused.
Thanks.

[pmb1010]

Along that same line, why is Lyngsat confusing on this issue?

I guess I'm not exactly sure how to read that, either.

The "base" frequency is shown with "Digicypher".
The "next" frequency is shown with "F" (Free?) on the designation, and the background color shows this channel to be "clear/not encrypted"

Anyone know why that is?
*** EDIT --- I think the above post answers my question.... ---- EDIT ***

[rainman]

I always check the heading where they post the sr will tell you if it is dcII or dvb.

[lostinthewoods]

Well, that just goes to show my ignorance! I thought that because the "F" logo was there that is was not encrypted as the line just above it!

As for my receiver, it is a standard Pansat 2700A DVB receiver!

Oh well, live and learn and I guess that is what this forum is all about.

By the way, thanks for all the help so far.

Lost

OOPS, forgot to answer the rest of the questions: No I cannot receive any of the other channels that are listed in the same format. I do get the DVB channels that are listed. OK, now doing some more searching and hair pulling (what little I have left), I notice that in the setup screen that tp 14 is listed at 12008 V and having read someplace that different receivers will note freq a little different, it seems that 12008 is just the "14th" tp that it found and actually corresponds to tp 15 (Lyngsat site) as when I do a tp scan, I get NO channels! This further supports the above argument that it won't "lock on" to a digicypher signal?? In other words, the tp numbers listed on my stb don't correspond to the listed on Lyngsat??? Starting in the cellar, my tp 1 is listed at 12085 H yet tp 1 on Lyngsat is listed in the area of 117xx H. I also notice on Lynsat that the mix of H and V as you assend the freq and my receiver scans H first and then V and assigns tp numbers according to the order in which it finds them! Interesting, I still have a lot to learn:})

[wejones]

Originally Posted by lostinthewoods

Well, that just goes to show my ignorance! I thought that because the "F" logo was there that is was not encrypted as the line just above it!

As for my receiver, it is a standard Pansat 2700A DVB receiver!

Oh well, live and learn and I guess that is what this forum is all about.

By the way, thanks for all the help so far.

Lost

I'm still confused about how you managed to get a lock (ie get quality) on that transponder though. An FTA receiver shouldn't be able to lock a DCII signal.

[lostinthewoods]

Bill,
Check my edited post. I didn't get a lock on that signal!!!!

MY stb tp numbers do NOT correspond to those listed on Lynsat!!!!

My box "assigns" a number in order of transponder found and it does a H scan first and then a V scan.

I have 17 tp's listed for AMC3 1-12 are all H polarity and 13-17 are V!

I do NOT have a correlation between what my box says and what Lynsat says (bummer)!

Lost

[wejones]

Originally Posted by lostinthewoods

Bill,
Check my edited post. I didn't get a lock on that signal!!!!

MY stb tp numbers do NOT correspond to those listed on Lynsat!!!!

My box "assigns" a number in order of transponder found and it does a H scan first and then a V scan.

I have 17 tp's listed for AMC3 1-12 are all H polarity and 13-17 are V!

I do NOT have a correlation between what my box says and what Lynsat says (bummer)!

Lost

Oh, OK, sorry. I was going by the first post where you said:
" On tp 14, I am getting a signal of 74% and quality of 90-99% on my Pansat 2700" .

I now see that in your second post, you added the above info in an edit, but I must have read it before the edit. Sorry.

Yeah, I don't think you can ever rely on the transponder number in any FTA receiver corresponding to the actual transponder number on the sat.

Anyway, it makes sense now. Thanks.

[briand]

for what it's worth, I get a nice, crisp, clear signal on GPTV (Georgia Public Television)....


...from either cable or over-the-air antenna. not on satellite.

[pmb1010]

What a world we live in, PUBLICLY funded TV needs to be encrypted on a satellite...
And it ends up ultimatly free over the air with domestic VHF transmission.

[wejones]

Originally Posted by pmb1010

What a world we live in, PUBLICLY funded TV needs to be encrypted on a satellite...
And it ends up ultimatly free over the air with domestic VHF transmission.

The main GPTV channel isn't encrypted (actually FP, fixed process), althought their PeachStar channel is encrypted. In fact GPTV is the first digital satellite signal I ever tuned to (good reason for that), and I still tune it in occasionally, but usually just tune to the main PBS signals, because GPTV doesn't carry my favorite show anymore (Woodwright Shop). :-(

THe GPTV signal used to have the Peachstar thing, FP too, but it went encrypted a while back. But I agree with what you say, and it really annoys me when the PBS people complain about people watching their signals, claiming that they are private transmissions. They wouldn't have ANY transmissions if it wasn't for the tax dollars and public funding heading their way. Yet they are doing everything they can to hide their transmissions from us, and are now switching for a video on demand internet service that will probably cut us off from a good portion of the PBS signals we're seeing on sat now. :-(