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07-26-2006, 01:24 PM
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Is it possible to get 97 & 87 on one 36" dish?
Or 95 and 87? Thanks!
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07-26-2006, 07:03 PM
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no its very hard to get both on 36' .itleast you need 39' then mitbe passible.
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07-27-2006, 08:03 PM
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its possible but tough because of the "sweet spot" of the dish for optimum signal.
10 degrees is pretty far away between LNB's. I've seen 6 with minimal loss but 10 would be a bugger to get.
I tried 10 on my StarChoice dish (tried 101 KU on a dish aimed at 107.3/111.1) and the best I could get was a 45 on KUIL Fox
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07-28-2006, 06:06 PM
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Iceberg is correct but a solution to your problem would be to get a motor.
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07-28-2006, 06:49 PM
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its possible...was a 45 on KUIL Fox
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07-28-2006, 08:44 PM
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I am with carpenter1 get a motor and surf all of the sats. 
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07-29-2006, 08:50 AM
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I'm glad someone finally asked that question. I try not to, but I usually have a mental picture of people who post on these forums, and somehow Ice's Avator just doesn't quite match what I had imagined.
Of course, for similar reasons, I'd never consider putting my own picture up as an avatar, as I've been known to scare little kids, even though I look pretty much like Santa Claus. I do have my picture up on one web page where I'm a forum member, but I'm not about to give any hints to that URL, or I'd lose whatever thread of credibility I have left.
Anyway, is that really you, ICE ???
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07-29-2006, 09:57 AM
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I'm glad someone finally asked that question. I try not to, but I usually have a mental picture of people who post on these forums, and somehow Ice's Avator just doesn't quite match what I had imagined.
Of course, for similar reasons, I'd never consider putting my own picture up as an avatar, as I've been known to scare little kids, even though I look pretty much like Santa Claus. I do have my picture up on one web page where I'm a forum member, but I'm not about to give any hints to that URL, or I'd lose whatever thread of credibility I have left.
Anyway, is that really you, ICE ???
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I got news for you Bill the tree mount did you in for credibility  Actually I am caught between being in awe that it works, especially since it grows and wondering what would ever put a thought to do such a thing into ones mind. 
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07-29-2006, 10:51 AM
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I got news for you Bill the tree mount did you in for credibility  Actually I am caught between being in awe that it works, especially since it grows and wondering what would ever put a thought to do such a thing into ones mind. 
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Although it is still up, the tree mount was never intended to be permanent, it was just something I threw up in a hurry trying to pick up a sat that a tree was blocking on my big dish. But relative to "growing", I've never 100% beleived this, and have seen a few exceptions, but in theory trees don't really grow "UP", but grow "out", so if you mount something on a growing tree, it shouldn't really move much. When I was young, I set up a tent in the woods behind our house, and anchored one side of the tent to a pipe set in the crotch of a young tree. I came back home 10 or so years later, and the young tree still had the pipe imbedded between two limbs that had grown together, and was at about the same height off the ground as it had been 10 years earlier, and stuck out parallel to the ground. So in theory, if you cut off the top of a tree, and mount something there, it won't get any higher, although a young tree may tilt a bit, trying to reach the sun.
But back to my tree mount, I haven't really checked that to see if it is still close to the arc for nearly a year. I pretty much gave up on that dish because it was really warped badly due to the fact that it's ribs are hollow, and I let them fill with water, and they froze and burst over one winter, when I had it lying on the ground... ie they would have drained if I had it set up on a pole, but I ruined the thing. :-( I also didn't help it much by moving it from one side of my house to the other by rolling it on the ground. I keep thinking about trying to bend the thing back into shape, but I'll probably just scrap the thing.
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07-29-2006, 11:27 AM
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If the area you are in is anything like where I live big dishes are pretty much for the asking and the labor to take it down. Trying to fix a warped one would not even enter my thoughts since in probably less than an hour I could have one located and a deal set to take it away.
There are two in town I have my eye on. Both look about 12', one is mesh in excellent shape with a huge tree directly in front of it blocking all view of any sats. They have it facing the house now which is north. Kinda looks like someone put it in not knowing it can not see through trees. The tree is huge and the dish is beautiful.
The other is a fiber solid dish that looks old. Most likely mesh with holes of the size unsuited for Ku but would make a nice dedicated Atlantic dish. Just up the road the other way is a solid (one piece spun alum) either 5 or 6' pointed at the ground. I would have to cut the brush away from it to get it out. It is so bad that this time of year you would not even know the dish was there. I am confident an ad in the local paper would net me more dishes than I could ever use.
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07-29-2006, 11:54 AM
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If the area you are in is anything like where I live big dishes are pretty much for the asking and the labor to take it down. Trying to fix a warped one would not even enter my thoughts since in probably less than an hour I could have one located and a deal set to take it away.
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Not too many big dishes around here. I think mainly because it is so hilly and the trees are so thick that almost nobody has a view of even a small fraction of the arc. I've seen 2 big dishes within about a 20 mile radius, that were obviously un-used. One was one of those old, old fiberglass things that probably wouldn't work on Ku, but also my wife wouldn't consider letting me take, because it is so ugly. The other one was a nice looking dish, but the thing was up on about a 25' tall pole. I didn't have a clue about how I could get the thing down undamaged. I once lowered a dish off about an 8' pole with a home-made rig made up of a pulley clamped to the pole, and a cable connected to the dish and my car over the pulley, however I wasn't sure I could even climb this pole to get to the dish. I have no idea how they ever got it up there. But I guess when you're in a valley between hills, you need to get your dish high.
I used to be able to find occasional small dishes at a local dump, but the dump decided to not let people from my town visit anymore. :-( (My town is too small to have a dump of it's own.)
I have connections at a nearby trash to steam plant/transfer station, and the guys there promised to tell me if anyone dropped off a sat dish, but so far nothing. Probably, if a dish made it that far, it wouldn't be in good enough shape to work anyway.
It also used to be that you would see people take dishes to ham fests, and if they didn't sell, they would just give them away, however the ham fest near here changed it's rules because people were using it as a cheap dump, and it cost them more in trash removal than they made from the participants.
I never thought about putting an ad in the paper. Not sure about that.
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07-30-2006, 08:09 PM
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Bill I got my birdview dish yesterday getting the dish off was a piece of cake but digging the pole out by hand was a real pain.LOL but she's at home safe and sound waiting to be installed. 
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Undien 4600,DSR 922
Fortec Ultra, Satworks 3618
2 Fortec Mercury II
Fortec Classic NA
8.5' Orbitron polar C Ku dish
8.5' Birdview HH C Ku dish
100cm Fortec dish
90cm Fortec dish
2 DG-240 HH motors
Co Rotor II feed horn
Norsat 8515 C band lnb
Norsat 4506A Ku lnb
BSC-621-2 Lnbf
Invacom QPH-031 Lnbf
Invacom SNH-031 Lnbf
Fortec Fsku-v universal Lnbf
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