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Old 02-16-2006, 08:28 PM
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ViewSat Extreme 2000 Installation problem

Been trying to set this new reciever up for about two weeks...It is the New Viewsat 2000 exteme...The only satellites I can get channels on are PAS 9 and AMC 5...Right now it is on AMC 5 with a signal strength of 74% and a 45% quality...Pictures come in clear...When I move to Galaxy 10R...I get a signal strength of 88% and a 76% quality...Both bars are green...However when I go to channel search and save...It will not save any of the stations...There are a few minor problems with reciever...Clock on the hour 12 does not show up...Next hour 12 appears...When going to installation no code was required....I reset the default setting...Now it requires code to get into installation..However same problem with clock No 12 hour appears...No biggie just trying to get GALAXY 10R..Appears to be enough stations to satisfy me...PAS9 and AMC5 have excellent pictues with low quality percentages...What do you think..????..Did I get a piece of junk or am I the junk...???...All the reviews states this is a wonderful reciever...Me I am not plum dumb but sure appears to be a pain in the rump to set up...Can anyone explain why GALAXY 10R has such a strong signal yet will not register the stations....?????....Thanks...OH I AM USING THE FORTEC STAR 90CM DISH with a .05db lnb...ALSO IF I CHOOSE OPTION (all) INSTEAD OF (fta) SETTING...I GET ABOUT 300 PAY STATIONS...NO FTA's...
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Old 02-16-2006, 08:35 PM
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Unfortunately, I think you'll find most of the folks that hang around here are more familiar with fortec receivers than the viewsat devices.

I'll suggest you visit this site, more users of Viewsat and would likely be of more assistance:

http://www.satelliteguys.us/forumdisplay.php?f=24

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Old 02-16-2006, 08:39 PM
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I GET ABOUT 300 PAY STATIONS...NO FTA's...

I wonder if you are sitting on Echostar 9 or 7? They area really close to Galaxy 10. Try moving your dish just a bit further west and try to scan
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Old 02-16-2006, 08:43 PM
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Both BARS are solid green

88% on the signal
76% on the quality
Both bars are solid green
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Old 02-16-2006, 08:51 PM
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I GET ABOUT 300 PAY STATIONS...NO FTA's...
Pay stations are on the Echo birds, very few on Galaxy 10
Echo 9 is linear polarity, same as Galaxy 10, only 2 degrees apart
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Old 02-16-2006, 08:56 PM
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Will try in daylight tomorrow

Thanks I will try moving tomorrow in sunlight..Just amazes me I can view AMC5 with a 73% signal and a 45% quality...Thanks..will try moving tomorrow and posting results tomorrow evening..Peaceful days..
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Old 02-17-2006, 05:00 PM
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http://www.satelliteguys.us/forumdisplay.php?f=24

Just deleted my messages at satellite guys...smart allec administrator...plus sponsors on my words like directv...I am not support those thieves..yes I may have an attitude...However I do not like people telling me how to breath and exhale...
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GUY ON THIS BOARD WAS RIGHT
When I was on galaxy 10r it was downloading channels from echostar 9...Yet when I switched over...bars were a low red...while the bars on galaxy 10r were a high green...
When I get money I am buying from sadoun...They have been more helpful then anyone...
Thanks Sadoun for the message board and personal help...At least you are not breathing down my neck complaing if I highlight a word....Why have the highlight if they do not want people to use it...Seems like they would delete it instead of treating someone like a child...OK OK...I am calming down...Sorry for the HO HO...Just a little upset at the moment...
Now back to the setup of dish...I would truly appreciate it if anyone can explain why galaxy 10 had green bars yet downloads echo9 stations...????..Moving dish either way does not help...
Thanks and again thanks to Sadoun...
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Old 02-17-2006, 05:25 PM
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why galaxy 10 had green bars yet downloads echo 9
because your dish is pointed at echo 9. :mozilla_smile: just because your receiver says galaxy 10. does not mean your dish is pointed a g 10. check alignment of dish.
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Old 02-17-2006, 07:40 PM
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Why then when I go to satellite settings for echo 9 the bar is a low red on all frequencies...?????
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Old 02-17-2006, 09:44 PM
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I would truly appreciate it if anyone can explain why galaxy 10 had green bars yet downloads echo9 stations...????..Moving dish either way does not help...
Thanks and again thanks to Sadoun...
Sorry to hear things didnt work out at Sat Guys.

I suspect your dish is not alighned correctly.
If you are getting 1 or 2 sats on a motorized system, and move to another sat and get weird results, its setup & alighnment.

The receiver does not know what sat its pointing at.
You will get green bar on pretty much ANY sat as long as the transponder selected is active.

When you move to G10R, it's pointing at E9.
When you move to E9, it's not pointing at anything (no signal = red bars)
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Old 02-17-2006, 11:19 PM
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Night time alignment

Well I set the default back to factory...Since the skies are clear blue here in florida I thought I might solve my problems with no sunset...I have no motor doing it all by hand...I cannot get any green bars on echostar 9...The bars on galaxy 10R are green running close to 80% on both bars...Yet it is still downloading echostar 9....Even if I move dish more west...It still tries downloading echostar 9 channels...
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Old 02-18-2006, 12:06 AM
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ANOTHER PROBLEM

Under installation for AMC2 105.0W which is suppose to be at 85.0W is actually AMC15...I am beginning to believe this whole deal is programmed wrong...This is only my fourth satellite in two weeks I have been able to get..Showing it is locked on AMC2 which actually is AMC15 for Dish Network...
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Old 02-18-2006, 01:33 AM
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No... your signal meter does not identify the satellite. If you are getting signals for AMC15 when you want AMC2, then it means you are 20 degrees off.

If you go to the setup screen for AMC6 at 72 but your dish is pointed at Echostar1 at 148, you'll still get a signal reading on AMC6. The reading has nothing to do with AMC6.
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Old 02-18-2006, 05:11 AM
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I had that problem before. I found out that the lnb was not on the right degree.
If you're planing to use a motor, Viewsat is not the receiver.
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Old 02-18-2006, 09:33 PM
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NO MOTOR

Well I finally got one station on Galaxy 10R today...A china station...Yes I had planned on getting a motor from sadoun next week..Hmmmmm...??...Was hoping that would make it easier on setting sats up...Boy this thing is tricky...You can just move this thing a micro and it will lose signal...I have yet to get any green bars for EchoStar9...That is why it boggles my mind....The fact My green bars were so high while on Galaxy 10R yet download EchoStar9 stations...Why exactly is viewsat not good with motors..For the fact it is so sensitive a settings...???..I saw on ebay a guy from england has an lnb that is .01db....WOW unbelieveable...must be made with gold wiring...Thought the lnb of that low a decible might help me some....It just amazes me being in Florida and so close to the satellites I am having so much trouble aligning...ebay link to lnb
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Showing it is locked on AMC2 which actually is AMC15 for Dish Network...
The receiver does not know what satellite it's pointing at.
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Old 02-18-2006, 09:43 PM
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I do not understand>>???...How does it know Thanks
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Old 02-19-2006, 12:05 AM
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Lemme try an analogy...

You have an FM radio in your car, and you are in Michigan.
You tune around the band, and find 10 stations. One if them is a rock station on 96.9 - you hear the call letters and the music format.


Now you drive to Nashville TN. Same radio, you "scan" the FM band and find differenet stations. On 96.9 you find a station, but it's hillbilly music.

Your car radio is nothing but a receiver. It did not know you drove from one city to another - it still picks up a signal on the same channel - 96.9 but in the different cities they have separete content.


Same with Sats. Your receiver can be set to a channel (example IA5). You point up in the sky, but happend to line up on AMC2. You scan, find maybe 1 or 2 channels, but not what you expected to find on IA5. The receiver does not know you are on the wrong sat. THere is no correlation between what the receiver is set for, and the signal you happen upon.

The best way to handle this is to get close to a sat, using the measurements you calculate for your locaiton, and point to {hopefully} the correct sat. Get some signal and quality indication, and scan it in. Then you compare the channels received with what is listed on www.lyngsat.com for the satellite you think you are on.

Example I like to use: Point at 79W (AMC5). There is a lot of strong transponders there, on 11742V when you get the picture working it's the Utah Eduction Network. If you dont see the Utah eduction channels, you are not on the right sat and you need to readjust or recalculate to make it right.

you need a good compass, and adjust for your magnetic deviaion in your caclucations on whtere to point your dish to get to certain satellites.

For my location, AMC5 at 79 is shown at 180 degrees for me. But I must add 10 degrees of magnetic deviation to get the true pointing compass setting to point the dish.

Study this page for a while:


http://www.sadoun.com/Sat/Installati...Calculator.htm
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Old 02-19-2006, 02:07 AM
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On the other hand. some receivers, like Dishnetwork receivers would tell you if you're pointed to the wrong satellite.

About Viewsat and the motor. It's a pain. After you setup everything you try it and the motor would move to different direction. Sometimes it will keep going left-right without stopping. I tried this receiver with different motors but got same results. Very hard to control the motor. There are 2 different menu, one for user and other for installer. Very confusing. But it's just my experience. I might be the only one who had this problem. I do not know
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