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Old 10-31-2005, 06:12 PM
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Set up of fortec satellite system

I have the m1 system(ULTRA,SM3D12,31"DISH,FSKUv LNB)
My location is 37.131 N,76.53W.(Newport News,VA)
My calculated true south is180+10.5 or 190.5.
Motor elevation 37.13,Dish elevation 40.24.
I tried to zero in on SBS 6, my closest suoth satellite.
I get 56% and no quality.What am I doing Wrong,I need Help.

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Old 10-31-2005, 06:44 PM
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While you are correct, SBS6 is your south sat, it is a very very tough one to lock on to. It doesnt have much regular programming, and the stuff that is there is usually pretty weak. What I would do is program in a transponder, 11741H SR=6.616 and try again. I just did a scan and that is the only activity I can get.
If that doesnt work, make AMC5 your south satellite. 11742 is always there. and it's close enough to not make much difference.
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Old 11-01-2005, 07:17 AM
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Do I zero in manually without using the motor by putting in

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While you are correct, SBS6 is your south sat, it is a very very tough one to lock on to. It doesnt have much regular programming, and the stuff that is there is usually pretty weak. What I would do is program in a transponder, 11741H SR=6.616 and try again. I just did a scan and that is the only activity I can get.
If that doesnt work, make AMC5 your south satellite. 11742 is always there. and it's close enough to not make much difference.
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Old 11-01-2005, 07:21 AM
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Re: Do I zero in manually without using the motor ?

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While you are correct, SBS6 is your south sat, it is a very very tough one to lock on to. It doesnt have much regular programming, and the stuff that is there is usually pretty weak. What I would do is program in a transponder, 11741H SR=6.616 and try again. I just did a scan and that is the only activity I can get.
If that doesnt work, make AMC5 your south satellite. 11742 is always there. and it's close enough to not make much difference.
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Old 11-01-2005, 10:39 AM
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Keep your settings on the motor, adjust the dish elevation very carefully until you get the signal. If that doesnt work, keep the motor and dish elevations at the settings youve figured, and move the whole mount very slightly east or west till you get it.

see this other thread:

http://www.sadoun.net/viewtopic.php?p=23092#23092
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Old 11-01-2005, 12:09 PM
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I used AMC5 as sugested.Aftere rotating the motor mount till I got the strongest signal on the meter Iraised and lowered the dish slightly till I got the strongest signal on the meter.
After all that I don't seem to be getting any better than 81% and no quality.What do I do now?
Thanks for all your help so far.
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Keep your settings on the motor, adjust the dish elevation very carefully until you get the signal. If that doesnt work, keep the motor and dish elevations at the settings youve figured, and move the whole mount very slightly east or west till you get it.

see this other thread:

http://www.sadoun.net/viewtopic.php?p=23092#23092
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Old 11-01-2005, 12:35 PM
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Reinhold ,
you moved up and down the dish, did you also remember move a bit left and right ? Try to move bit by bit until you see green meter QUALITY appears.

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Old 11-01-2005, 12:50 PM
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I MOVED THE DISH UP AND DOWN AND THE MOTOR BACK AND FORTH SLIGHTLY USING A SIGNAL METER
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Old 11-01-2005, 01:14 PM
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I had the same problem, could not lock onto SBS 6. I will try getting AMC 5 this weekend. My Lat. is 75.2 so AMC 5 is pretty close to my due South.
I'm using the Invacom QPH-031 LNB. Does anyone know if AMC 5 is Circular or Linear polarization. I want to know which output to connect to on the LNB. Thanks in advance.
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Old 11-01-2005, 01:52 PM
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Never mind. I found an excellent post which tells you how to determine if a sat is using circular or linear polarization.
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Old 11-02-2005, 02:26 PM
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Hi guy,s.
I have some good news and some bad news.
I took my TV up on the roof with me today(i have a homemade chimney mount) and I got AMC 5 perfectly( 10 channels).
Now I don,t seem to be able to move my dish using the receiver to run the moter.I moved it yesterday with a battery pack and it worked just fine.
the procedure in the instruction book is not very clear.Can somebody walk me thrue it?
Thanks in advance.
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Old 11-02-2005, 05:59 PM
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I have some good news and some bad news.
I took my TV on the roof with me and zeroed in on AMC5.
10 stations perfect reception.
But when I tried to rotate to the eastern most satellite the moter would not rotate.I rotated it yesterday for a 2.8 scew with a battery pack and it worked just fine.the procedure is not too clear in the book.
Maybe someone can help me out with the correct procedure?
Many thanks in advance,
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Old 11-03-2005, 06:33 PM
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Hi guys.
Its me again.
I got the motor working today.however i don't seem to be able to lock in satellites.
I checked my most western satellite today.I got 74% with jumps to 89%,quality was 0 sometimes it went into green.(Echostar 157)
Most eastern Intelsat 27 only came up to 57%.
Any suggestions what to do?
It seems the western satellite is only slightly off but what about the eastern one.
I am 70 years old and not exactly computer savvy.
Thanks in advance for all the help.
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Old 11-04-2005, 02:44 AM
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hey there Reinhold.

Try to get Galaxy 10R transponder 11805 H 4580.. this would be your westernmost usable satellite. Then when you find this, move the motor back to AMC 5 and if there is good signal/quality there as well then you are tracking good.

I don't understand why you mean by battery pack?? Why would you control the motor with that? Is the receiver working good with the motor?
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Old 11-04-2005, 07:22 AM
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It is working,I just wanted to set the skew for AMC 5 Thanks

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hey there Reinhold.

Try to get Galaxy 10R transponder 11805 H 4580.. this would be your westernmost usable satellite. Then when you find this, move the motor back to AMC 5 and if there is good signal/quality there as well then you are tracking good.

I don't understand why you mean by battery pack?? Why would you control the motor with that? Is the receiver working good with the motor?
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Old 11-04-2005, 09:54 AM
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Hey reinhold I don't understand your method of posting. Why are you quoting yet putting your response on subject line? doesnt make sense.
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Old 11-04-2005, 03:07 PM
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Answer to the last question.I was not sure and am still not sure how to post.
I spent another frustrating day.I went to G10R west. Mynumber is 72% NQ
I moved the pole east and west,no improvement.I tried the same with echo 9 21w most eastern.Same numbers.However I get th following readings: G10R 123W 72%, G13/H1 127w same, Anik F2 111.1w 67% NQ,GC3 95w 71%NQ,JA6 93w 71% NQ,G11 91W 71% NQ,AMC 9 71% NQ,Intelsat 27.5 W 71% NQ,Echo9 21W 71% NQ.
My moter also gets stuck in the eastern position and needs a hand start.
The USAL or whatever it is called does not seem to rotate the motor to the satellite.
Maybe the readings above give somebody an idea.It seems I am close,but no cigar.Something else:inthe eastern position the motershaft seems to be loose,it wiggles.That's where I have to give the motor a hand start.
Thanks in advance for any help,Reinhold
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Reinhold:

Are you plugged into IF IN on the back of the receiver?
(NOT antenna in?) See:


The 1st number "level" in your posts is (essentially) worthless. You could point it at the house across the street and get different level indications.

You need to get a blip on the QUALITY signal bar. Keep working at finding AMC5, make sure you have transponder 11742 on the TP spot on setup screen as you are looking for the signal.

This is the screen you want to STAY on until you find the signal:
(obviously you want to be on AMC5, etc) but look for the QUALITY bar to go green when you find the sat signal)



Here is the pic of the back and connection for dish:
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Old 11-05-2005, 07:45 AM
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Hi
I guess I did noy make myself very clear.I have been getting AMC5 perfectly for 3 days.It is the next step I am having problems with.I pointed to the western most satelliteand got70something.I can move the post east or west and there is no change in reception.My question is should I now adjust the moter and dish elevations to perscibe a bigger or smaller arc and would that perhaps solve my problem.I am getting readings in the 70tees in a lot of places.Before they used to be much lower.
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I guess I dont know what your trying to ask for help on:

"USALS doesnt move dish"

"getting 70NQ"
(I assumed this meant 70 level, no quality)

If USALS is not moving the dish, you're lat and long might not be installed into the setup screen correctly. Make sure its N and W (sometimes it shows "E" since these motors come from Europe and it defaults to over there...)

If you are getting 70 QUALITY readings, that's pretty good. You will not get 100% quality level. These satellite transponders vary in output signal and variations among them is quite common.
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Old 11-05-2005, 10:00 AM
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Hi.
Iam getting 70% and 0 quality.
I guess I am asking wether I should chang e the motor and dish elevations tro try and improve quality on my western most satellite which is 123W
Thanks again Reinhold.
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