Set up of fortec satellite system - Page 3

Reinhold · #61 (**permalink**) 12-04-2005, 12:12 PM

Hi Kat.
I tried the #1 methode and ran into a couple problems.I could not whatch regular programming on the other TV but the programming from the satellite was not coming in good either.Lots of snow,which I should not get on digital programming.It seems even though I go thrue the receiver I still get interferance from cable.Back to the drawing board.I would not have a problem changing my whole wiring layout.I am a retired electrician.
Thanks for your help.Maybe I have to isolate the system and run it thrue some switches.
Reinhold.

bobkat · #62 (**permalink**) 12-04-2005, 12:19 PM

Snowy picture on the RF out is either a bad connector or bad splitter. Or a really crappy, made in China, POS receiver.... but you have a Fortec, don't you?

kat

Reinhold · #63 (**permalink**) 12-04-2005, 04:33 PM

Thanks,I will work on that.Yes I have a fortec star lifetime ultra receiver.
Reinhold.

Reinhold · #64 (**permalink**) 12-05-2005, 01:56 PM

Hi Kat.
I replaced the splitter,no
improvement.My connectors seemed to be OK.
I am using the RCA jacks for the TV next to the receiver.I ran a direct line from the RF output to the other TV.I than installed an AB switch.This way I get good reception and I can control the receiver from either location using an infra red remote extender.It seems to work fine.It seems the splitter does not work because it is made for cable frequencies.
Thanks for all your help,Reinhold.

bobkat · #65 (**permalink**) 12-06-2005, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Reinhold

It seems the splitter does not work because it is made for cable frequencies.

Yes, but the RF OUT from your Fortec is modulated onto channels 3 or 4; both of which are cable frequencies. Anyway, glad you got everything working.

kat

Reinhold · #66 (**permalink**) 12-09-2005, 08:43 AM

Hi Kat,
you are right about 3,4 being cable or antenna frequencies but somehow with a direct line the receiver seems to cut out the other signal.Anyway I am back to zero.I installed my new 120cm dish and now I am getting nothing and it is too cold outside for the receiver to work on that.I have to wait for warmer weather,
Take care,Reinhold

bobkat · #67 (**permalink**) 12-09-2005, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Reinhold

Anyway I am back to zero.I installed my new 120cm dish and now I am getting nothing and it is too cold outside for the receiver to work on that.I have to wait for warmer weather,

HeHeHe... :mozilla_cool:

You know the old cliche... "If it ain't broke... don't fix it"... and its going to be a long, cold winter too. Purrfect weather for putting up 120 cm. dishes... :mozilla_yell:

kat

Reinhold · #68 (**permalink**) 12-09-2005, 02:08 PM

I was getting a lot of transponders but not that many stations so I thought a bigger dish might get me more.Anyway it is installed but I have to retweek it. For that I take the receiver and a TV outside and it has been too cold.It is warming up already 43 and warmer on the weekend here in Newport News VA.I will probably get a shot tomorrow.
You are right about the old saying though.
Reinhold.

Reinhold · #69 (**permalink**) 12-10-2005, 07:30 PM

Hey Kat,
it warmed up over 40 today so I could spend a little time on my system.
I think I will be OK.I already got more activity on one satellite then I had on the whole system before.I do have to start all over though since because of the bigger dish,the focal point has changed.I can no longer use 79W for my southern satellite,because it now hits into a neighbors tree at that elevation.I am using 82W,its only a couple points off and I hope it will work out.I let you know about my progress.
Reinhold.

pmb1010 · #70 (**permalink**) 12-11-2005, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Reinhold

I can no longer use 79W for my southern satellite,because it now hits into a neighbors tree at that elevation.

Reinhold, I don't see how this could make any difference with a dish change, unless the height of the dish changed significantly.
The point where you can see 79w in the sky should be exactly the same, no matter what focal point you use. It's only the dish adjustment that will change.
See the lousy graphic I created. Image you are standing where the dish would be, your eyes would be where the dish "actually sees". The focal point and deflection angle of the dish can vary all it wants. Assuming the dish's "eye view" does not drop below the red line, any dish should see the sat no matter what kind of offset it uses...

Reinhold · #71 (**permalink**) 12-11-2005, 11:52 AM

In your picture the center of both dishes are in the same position.With the mountig hardware provided the center of the larger dish is actually lower I think.The last word is not out on that yet.I will probably try again this afternoon.I am im pressed with the better performance of the larger dish.On 97W I used to get just a few stations.Now I get over 100 radio stations and around 100 TV stations.Thanks for your info.
Reinhold

bobkat · #72 (**permalink**) 12-11-2005, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Reinhold

With the mountig hardware provided the center of the larger dish is actually lower I think.The last word is not out on that yet.

The last word on that was out in 1948 when Arthur C. Clarke discovered geostationary orbits... pmb1010 is absolutely correct. Unless your dish site has changed or dish position has been significantly lowered or the trees have grown 30 feet taller overnight, then the dish size has no bearing on whether or not a given satellite can be "seen" from a given position. Focal point, type of LNB mount and where the LNB arm appears to point have no factor in determining line of sight for satellites.

kat

Reinhold · #73 (**permalink**) 12-15-2005, 08:39 AM

Hi Kat.
I meant the jury is not out yet on my assumption about getting 79W.I will have to start over with the layout of true south and go from there.It is too cold for that now.We have some warm days here in the winter.In the meantime I have been watching some movies the last few days on 97W instead of reruns.I also like all the musik stations I am getting.I downloaded 6 satellites but am not reaching far west or far east.The only way I get some fo them is with the disqu 1.2 locater by inching in.That tells me my moter is off a little bit on its axis.On the whole it is incouraging though.
Thanks for your help,Reinhold.

Reinhold · #74 (**permalink**) 12-17-2005, 08:28 AM

We had a nice day yesterday,over 50 and I spend a couple hours outdoors.I moved my dish back to true south and 79W came in right away.After adjusting the dish eleation and motor elevation,I am back on the clark belt with 12 satellites at over 90%.
I tried using the electronic program guide.I get on the page where they list channels,but I cannot get further to get information on programs at these stations.The book only tells me I can get there,but not how.I have tried just about everything.Does anybody have any ideas?
Reinhold.

rainman · #75 (**permalink**) 12-19-2005, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Reinhold

We had a nice day yesterday,over 50 and I spend a couple hours outdoors.I moved my dish back to true south and 79W came in right away.After adjusting the dish eleation and motor elevation,I am back on the clark belt with 12 satellites at over 90%.
I tried using the electronic program guide.I get on the page where they list channels,but I cannot get further to get information on programs at these stations.The book only tells me I can get there,but not how.I have tried just about everything.Does anybody have any ideas?
Reinhold.

i don't think program guide works with fta.

Reinhold · #76 (**permalink**) 12-19-2005, 12:05 PM

Thanks for the info Rainman.
Reinhold.

Reinhold · #77 (**permalink**) 12-25-2005, 08:26 AM

I get a lot of stations after downloading,that are to week to come in.Does anybody think an inline booster would be worthwhile?
Merry Christmas,Reinhold.

bobkat · #78 (**permalink**) 12-26-2005, 11:41 AM

Probably not. How long is your cable run to the dish?

kat

Reinhold · #79 (**permalink**) 12-26-2005, 06:39 PM

My cable run is maybe 65' which is not that long.
I also have problems with PBS stations.Out of 5 stations I have sound on only one,PBS Montana.The picture is good on all of them.
There is a digital jack on the back of the receiver,maybe that is the answer.But I don't know what or how to use it.
Thanks,Reinhold.

bobkat · #80 (**permalink**) 12-26-2005, 07:49 PM

The digital audio jack on your receiver was addressed in the other thread:

---> http://sadoun.net/viewtopic.php?t=5364&highlight=

As for an inline amp improving your signal I don't think it will make any difference because 65 feet is a short length of coax and you are getting a good picture, so signal levels are not an issue.

kat