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Old 08-21-2004, 03:39 AM
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Old 08-25-2004, 05:48 PM
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Problems with Pansat 2500A

Hi, I have been trying for over 8 weeks to have my system to work, with no sucess, I have a 90 cm dish, above receiver and a universal LNBF. I have tried placing dish in different locations around my house, including roof, I tried dif. elevations and skews, dish is not bent. I bought a new LNBF thinking that maybe that was the faulty component, I even tried an old Direct TV LNB. ALL I get is 75-78 % strentgth and NO (zero) quality. No radio no TV. I bought different coax cable. nothing. Is anybody in Sat-Land that can help me??? There are no installers in my town (33.92-- 116.88) and a couple that I called (out of town0 want a minimum of US$300.00. THank you very much in advance. :-)
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Old 08-25-2004, 06:42 PM
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Hi jl:

Sorry to hear you are having such a difficult time. Here are a few possibilities you can check:

1) Any trees in the way?

2) Your compass should point to 132 degrees for T5 for SoCal.

3) Your dish elevation should be 44 degrees for T5 for SoCal.

4) Your LNB local oscillator frequency should be set to 10,600 MHz for the LNB you have.

5) Your skew of the LNB should be -28 for SoCal (LNB tilted clockwise so that would look like around 7:30 o'clock as referenced from facing the front of the dish).

6) Make sure you have the receiver set to an active transponder on T5; go to www.lyngsat.com and look at T5 (now called IA5) and get the transponder frequency (example: 12,152 MHz), polarity ("V" or "H") and symbol rate (example: 22,000).

7) It is best to take the receiver and a small TV set out to the dish when aligning the dish; unless you have a signal meter like the Birdog or Signaloc Pro; small analog "beeper" meters will not find T5.

8 ) Move the dish very slowly in small steps while looking for "quality" to come in.

9) If you can't find "quality" after swinging the dish then adjust the elevation 1 degree up and try again; repeat with elevation set 1 degree down if still no "quality" shows up.

10) Make sure your receiver is set to "ON" for "LNB POWER" if it has this setting.

That's about it.

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Old 08-28-2004, 06:33 PM
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Pansat 2500A

I tried all of the above: NUTTIN'. Any other ideas???? :-( :-(
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Old 08-28-2004, 08:26 PM
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jl;...time to start from scratch.Go on ebay and buy a DN receiver...yes,you will pay $60.oo or more plus shipping.ITs well worth it.Let me know when it is in your hands,and we will key in a bird. 8)
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Old 08-28-2004, 08:29 PM
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better yet,order a satfinder from sadoun;I see you are not looking at BEV or DN birds,so the DN receiver MAY or MAY NOT help; best to have the right equipment.All this time you have been working on this thing could all boil down to no bird=no signal. 8)
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Old 08-28-2004, 08:47 PM
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All this time you have been working on this thing could all boil down to no bird=no signal. 8)
:lol: :lol:

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Old 08-30-2004, 11:52 PM
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Is Sadoun's signal meter SP95 DBS/DVB . OK to use???
Another question, I used regular TV/cable coax, is it OK?
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Old 08-31-2004, 12:45 AM
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Is Sadoun's signal meter SP95 DBS/DVB . OK to use???
Another question, I used regular TV/cable coax, is it OK?
1) No

2) Yes


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from my previous post ---> "7) It is best to take the receiver and a small TV set out to the dish when aligning the dish; unless you have a signal meter like the Birdog or Signaloc Pro; small analog "beeper" meters will not find T5."
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Old 09-14-2004, 11:06 PM
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I bought a satellite finder (the simple one) I get an strong signal on 3 different dish positions. But I do not get over 75% on my Pansat 2500A I really do not know what satellites I am getting on the sat fiinder, but I have tried all on the programmed ones in that receiver. HELP PLEASE!!!!!
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Old 09-16-2004, 10:47 AM
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Re: Installation help

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I bought a satellite finder (the simple one) I get an strong signal on 3 different dish positions. But I do not get over 75% on my Pansat 2500A I really do not know what satellites I am getting on the sat fiinder, but I have tried all on the programmed ones in that receiver. HELP PLEASE!!!!!
Well, ya didn't listen to me, did ya... :roll: I said (above) that those el-cheapo sat finders will not pull in T5 and other FTA satellites. The DTV, DN and BXVU satellites are much more powerful and always overshadow the other satellites. Now just take your receiver and a small TV set out to the dish and align it that way.

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Re: Installation help

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I bought a satellite finder (the simple one) I get an strong signal on 3 different dish positions. But I do not get over 75% on my Pansat 2500A I really do not know what satellites I am getting on the sat fiinder, but I have tried all on the programmed ones in that receiver. HELP PLEASE!!!!!
Well, ya didn't listen to me, did ya... :roll: I said (above) that those el-cheapo sat finders will not pull in T5 and other FTA satellites. The DTV, DN and BXVU satellites are much more powerful and always overshadow the other satellites. Now just take your receiver and a small TV set out to the dish and align it that way.

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You are terlling us this after i ordered the signal finder from you guys. :cry:
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Bobkat and most of us here are not Sadoun's employees. We are users and satellite hobbyists that are trying to provide help when possible.

Bobkat said this 3 months ago so unless you ordered it before 9/16 then he probably said it before you ordered
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Old 12-10-2004, 05:34 PM
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Bobkat and most of us here are not Sadoun's employees. We are users and satellite hobbyists that are trying to provide help when possible.

Bobkat said this 3 months ago so unless you ordered it before 9/16 then he probably said it before you ordered
bummer. I am stuck now with a signal finder that i cant use. :cry:
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Old 12-11-2004, 08:23 PM
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Actually the satellite finder is useful.

Just keep in mind that the meter will react to the strongest signal and will not tell you which satellite you are on. If you use it in conjunction with a compass, you should be OK. At least it will get close to the satellite. You should rely on the receiver signal strength screen to get a positive ID of the signal/satellite.

Another use for the meter is to check which coax cable is which. Let us say you want to place your receiver in the bedrrom and hook it to the coaxial cable on the bedroom wall. That cable runs to the basement, but there are many cables in the basement. Which one is the bedroom's? That is when you can use the meter as a tester. The receiver will supply the voltage and the meter will dedect at the other end.
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dude!!!...you can use that thing!time to go bird hunting;just start scanning the sky for those furrin' channels w, lotsa nekked girls...hey! saw one the other nite that had a soft spot for farm animals!YA NEVER KNOW..DUDE!
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I don’t know if "jl" is still struggling with his new FTA satellite system, but as someone who has just endured a similar ordeal, perhaps some of my experiences might help a bit.

I initially bought the system specifically to watch KBS America, located on Galaxy 10R. When it arrived, I set up the system, and tried aiming the dish. Four days and about six hours of tedious aiming later – nothing. The Fortec Star’s on-screen level meter showed 72% no matter where I aimed the dish, and the green quality bar never once lit up. So discouraging!

Soon afterwards, I heard that KBS America had gone to encryption, which pretty much took the wind out of my sails, given that KBS America was the main reason I’d bought the dammed thing in the first place. But, not one to readily admit defeat, I figured I might as well keep trying, and I ordered a second LNBF (in case the one I had was defective) as well as one of those cheapo, $17 satellite meters.

Well, the LNBF wasn’t the problem (I didn’t really expect it to be; buying that second one was a just a desperation move on my part) but as it turns out, that El Cheapo satellite meter was an absolute godsend! Son-of-a-gun, there it was, peaking here and there as I swung the dish along the horizon!

I peaked on the strongest signal I could find (I really didn’t care which satellite it was) and then I went through, one by one, selecting satellites on my receiver’s on-screen display. Midway down the list and - BOOM! - the green quality bar finally lit up! I’d found, as it turns out, Galaxy 3C.

Now, you veteran satellite gurus may deride that little El Cheapo satellite meter, but it saved my bacon in two ways. For one thing, it confirmed that my system was working properly (always a lingering doubt) and, for another, now that I knew exactly where Galaxy 3C was, I could have an easier time hunting down Galaxy 10R.

But, it wasn’t that easy, for even though I found a few other satellites, I just couldn’t find Galaxy 10R. I found IA7 booming in at 129 degrees west, and with Galaxy 10R at 123 degrees west, it seemed that nudging the dish just a hair to the south ought to bring it right up. But no, nothing.

Another two days and four hours of frustration followed, until I pointed the dish about where Galaxy 10R “ought” to be and then (desperation time again) randomly started switching through transponder frequencies on the Fortec Star’s on-screen menu. BOOM! - the green quality bar suddenly appeared!

Okay, so I’m a dufus, but how was I to know that the Fortec Star’s default transponder frequency for Galaxy 10R was NFG? Live and learn, I guess (oh, by the way, I quickly discovered that my Fortec Star wouldn’t get half the FTA channels I saw listed at the LyngSat page. Once I figured out how to manually add these transponder frequencies to the receiver’s list, everything worked fine).

The great problem, I guess, is that the installation of these FTA systems really isn’t meant for anybody short of video engineers and wild-eyed satellite enthusiasts. I don’t fancy myself as a techno-idiot, but even so I frankly found the whole process exceeding frustrating, especially given the lack (in my opinion) of good documentation. Why can’t somebody come up with a really easy to follow, step by step process? I know all you satellite veterans can probably set up systems in your sleep, but for the rest of us, it just shouldn’t be this difficult!

In any case, I hope that exposing some of my mistakes to the world might make things just a bit easier for other newbies who might be coming down the pike.
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