Installation help requested

[thomas34461usa]

1- Your location: (Will supply you with number address if needed)
**** N. Lombardo Ave, Lecanto, Florida 34461
2- Receiver make and model: No receiver at this time, soon through Sadoun.
3- Dish size: 10’ Unimesh Satellite Dish
4- LNBF type: ? Sorry real new at this. I just learned what a Feedhorn and an actuator is!
5- Motor if any: Von Weise Linear Actuator.

6- Now to your question: I just got my 10’ Unimesh Satellite Dish from somebody who said if I dismantled it from their property I could have it. I’m placing it in my backyard about 96 feet away from the house. I need to know a few things before I proceed any further:

Q. What type of wiring/cable to I use to run the dish from inside the house?

Q. Can I get this wiring/cable from Sadoun Satellite Sales?

Q. Do I run wiring/cable in the ground hooking up to the wall of the house and how deep?

Q. Or do I run it above ground hooking up to the roof?

Thanks,
Tom
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[rainman]

Originally Posted by thomas34461usa

Q. What type of wiring/cable to I use to run the dish from inside the house?

Q. Can I get this wiring/cable from Sadoun Satellite Sales?

Q. Do I run wiring/cable in the ground hooking up to the wall of the house and how deep?

Q. Or do I run it above ground hooking up to the roof?

Thanks,
Tom
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1. you will need a ribbon cable.

2. Sadoun does not carry ribbon cable at this time.

3.4. I have mine running under ground a foot deep should be plenty would recommend running through conduit.

[pmb1010]

I will add this:

There are alternatives to "ribbon cable". The ribbon cable is just 2 runs of RG-6 cable, and has with it motor & signal wires.
You can duplicate this with some 4 conductor wire (2 heavy gauge, 2 light gauge) and some good RG-6 coax.

I only say this because sometimes finding ribbon cable can be difficult.

I don't like running TV wire in conduit anymore. Everytime I've done so, something cracks it and it fills up with water. Unless you put it below the frost line (and here it's like 3 feet down) it will crack up anyway from the ice expanding if it does get water in it.

So, I just slit the lawn with a square blade shovel and bury the cables a few inches down. Walk over it and it'll reseal itself and be just fine.

It might help to explain what your goals are for the dish (what you want to watch, do you want any "pay for" TV like HBO etc), and we can help comment on what type of receiver, LNBF's and other things you might need to consider.

[thomas34461usa]

Originally Posted by pmb1010

I will add this:

There are alternatives to "ribbon cable". The ribbon cable is just 2 runs of RG-6 cable, and has with it motor & signal wires.
You can duplicate this with some 4 conductor wire (2 heavy gauge, 2 light gauge) and some good RG-6 coax.

I only say this because sometimes finding ribbon cable can be difficult.

Yes I think you are right. I trie to find Ribbon Cable today and can't find it yet. May have to do as what you wrote.

I don't like running TV wire in conduit anymore. Everytime I've done so, something cracks it and it fills up with water. Unless you put it below the frost line (and here it's like 3 feet down) it will crack up anyway from the ice expanding if it does get water in it.

I'm not so sure I will have a problem with frost here in Florida.

So, I just slit the lawn with a square blade shovel and bury the cables a few inches down. Walk over it and it'll reseal itself and be just fine.

I may have to slit the lawn but go deeper to get under the sprinkler system incase they ever work on it.

It might help to explain what your goals are for the dish (what you want to watch, do you want any "pay for" TV like HBO etc), and we can help comment on what type of receiver, LNBF's and other things you might need to consider.

Watch TV, All progams movies too and get and pay for the movie channels like HBO, Showtime etc and I plan on getting Digital equipment to watch it on my HD TV Home theater.

[rainman]

I sent you a PM where you can find ribbon cable.

[pmb1010]

OK that's fine.
You'll want to move into something called 4DTV.
That will require a DSR922 C and Ku band analog and digigal DCII receiver, and a subscription to the services available there. There is still lots of stuff available on C-band, but be advised that things are moving away from that. The services are still cheaper than cable or Directv, but they are climbing fast.
Be advised that they don't make DSR922 receivers anymore, and there is a battery on the motherboard that if it goes dead- it costs a lot to get the receiver fixed. So if you buy used make sure you get a guarantee. If you do get a good used working one (and it needs the battery change) ATS is the company that does that work.
ATS Electronics, Inc.

You will want to get a FTA receiver also (the Fortec models that Sadoun sells) and "slave" it off your 4dTV receiver.
Connecting BUD C KU Band dish to one DVB receiver

You will want to join up on this forum:
4DTV Satellite Forum - The Best in Satellite TV
and do some reading there, on programming available (NPS is a seller of programming services)
NPS - Your One Call Solution - CBAND Satellite Programming C-band

Your used dish probably has an older C band LNB on it, and might need and update for Ku, you might just try it first but there are options for replacement. That can get kind of tricky (there are lots of models) and stuff like "corotors" that move the internal antenna from horizontal to vertical position. As you read more on the subject, you'll find out a lot of this stuff.

Now, be advised there isn't much HD on 4DTV. There's some, but the small dish suppliers are way ahead of that in regard to HD. You can't record, you can only watch one channel at a time with Big Dish. If you can live with that, well then there you go. You will also need an addiitonal unit for your 922, called a HD201 if I remember correctly.

Good luck, come back with questions -- there's lots of guys here that fool with C band and are happy to help you out best we can.

[dien55]

I live in South California. My signal is 90% but quality is 0%, what I need to do?

Thanks,

[pmb1010]

Originally Posted by dien55

I live in South California. My signal is 90% but quality is 0%, what I need to do?

Thanks,

Signal level means nothing. Quality is the only important factor.

need to:

1) explain your equipment (receiver, dish, LNBF, cable)
2) Motor involved?
3) Zip code
4) what you've done so far.

That should be a good start to give you some help.

[elgemcdlf]

To the original poster in regards to how deep to bury cable. I have a large garden that I put in every year and cable runs right through it. For me I am down 24" or so so that I can run over the top with a tractor/tiller or any truck I want. Just below the surface is fine but you have to remember where it is. If you go deep you can forget about it unless you decide to dig a foundation or septic.

[1captain]

Good luck with the set up their Thomas. but will also give some heads up on a few things for your new set up.
1st I am also in fl tampa area an the 1-run is the way to go but dont do it conduit have found that with our high humidty here it will collect an hold water in the pipe, or if you have a area that will dug up from time to time put it in conduit an drill holes in pipie to let it drain, other wise the 1-run will be laying in water an the coax over time suck some of it up. also know the lecanto area an think that there is a satellite dealer in Crystal river that does c-band may want to check with him for the 1-run may save you money on shipping.
4DTV or a DSR922 is the way to go but you do want to add ku if you dont have it already. an if you go with a 4DTV you may run into a problem with that von weise actuator. now the 4dtv dont like a fast count an some of the von weise are a high count an depening on wich 1 you got is a easy cure for it, if you got the 24inch V-76 model will be a 4magnet wheel works great but if its the 8magnet wheel, they count a liittle qick for the 4dtv, then just get replace it. but if you got the mini 18inch von weise an you run into the fast count will need to pull gear box apart an remove every other magnet, 6 screws that will sepprate the case. an if i remeber correctly on the 18inches if on the model # ends -6 is the low count an the -9 is the high count. I not sure but think thats right, have both so can check to make sure if you have that 1. now what happen with a high count an the 4DTV is in about 2weeks to 2months will see all sats off a bit either to the east or west, then need to reset all back in memory. now dont get me wrong cause the von weise actuator are some of the best out their, an very quite, an last a long time compared to other that i have dealt with, i even use em here on my stuff.
So good luck with all Thomas an once you get it up an running I no that you will like it.. Good luck.. and their is alot of smart people here that can help you out if you run into a problem getting it going...1Captain