USALS not taking me to the correct satellite, maybe

[channel7]

I am using a motor with my dish and I am having a problem when trying to view channels on two particular satellites. All the other satellites display the correct satellite name when viewing a channel on that satellite and then going to the antenna settings menu.

When I go to change the antenna settings while viewing a channel on a certain satellite the name at the top of the antenna settings menu of my receiver shows at a different satellite's name and I have to switch over to the satellite I am viewing from the list of satellites in order to change the settings.

I have tried several different settings and combinations of settings. I have scanned left and right from the default USALS position but still cannot get the signal quality to come off of zero. Signal strength ranges from 60-64.

LNB Power: ON (even tried power cycling this but it didn't help)
LNB Type: Legacy Quad LNB 1 (also tried all others including Standard)
LNB Freq: 11250
22khz: Off
TP Freq: 12224 (won't stay on 12239 but I understand there is a fix for that)
DiSEqC 1.0: Port 1 (nothing on Port 2 either)
Motor: USALS
Legacy SW: SW42 Dish1 (also tried the others plus OFF)

[elgemcdlf]

I am using a motor with my dish and I am having a problem when trying to view channels on two particular satellites. All the other satellites display the correct satellite name when viewing a channel on that satellite and then going to the antenna settings menu.

When I go to change the antenna settings while viewing a channel on a certain satellite the name at the top of the antenna settings menu of my receiver shows at a different satellite's name and I have to switch over to the satellite I am viewing from the list of satellites in order to change the settings.

I have tried several different settings and combinations of settings. I have scanned left and right from the default USALS position but still cannot get the signal quality to come off of zero. Signal strength ranges from 60-64.

LNB Power: ON (even tried power cycling this but it didn't help)
LNB Type: Legacy Quad LNB 1 (also tried all others including Standard)
LNB Freq: 11250
22khz: Off
TP Freq: 12224 (won't stay on 12239 but I understand there is a fix for that)
DiSEqC 1.0: Port 1 (nothing on Port 2 either)
Motor: USALS
Legacy SW: SW42 Dish1 (also tried the others plus OFF)

What receiver are you using and what sats are you trying to get a lock on that you are not?

[Muad'Dib]

Is possible, USALS is not always correct.

Try with 1.2.

[Bibbler]

Is possible, USALS is not always correct.

Try with 1.2.

NO!!!! If the dish is properly aligned and you have the correct coordinates in, USALS is ALWAYS CORRECT!

[rainman]

NO!!!! If the dish is properly aligned and you have the correct coordinates in, USALS is ALWAYS CORRECT!

Agreed Al it's have always work for me.

[wejones]

Regardless of whether the dish is aligned perfectly or not, USALS assumes that the motor's zero position is correct. The motor's zero point is not always correct. Mine was off a couple degrees, and therefore USALS won't work (unless I lie to it about my longitude).
So unless you assume that calibrating the motor's zero position is part of the alignment, then USALS doesn't always work.
I *THINK* that with most motors, that you can calibrate the zero position just by manually setting it to zero and doing a hard reset. I've never bothered doing that on mine, because I was afraid that it would change all my diseqC-1.2 positions, but I think it would work.

[Bibbler]

Regardless of whether the dish is aligned perfectly or not, USALS assumes that the motor's zero position is correct. The motor's zero point is not always correct. Mine was off a couple degrees, and therefore USALS won't work (unless I lie to it about my longitude).
So unless you assume that calibrating the motor's zero position is part of the alignment, then USALS doesn't always work.
I *THINK* that with most motors, that you can calibrate the zero position just by manually setting it to zero and doing a hard reset. I've never bothered doing that on mine, because I was afraid that it would change all my diseqC-1.2 positions, but I think it would work.

At least with the HH90 Bill, I never had a problem. Once I got it aligned, it would track 72 and track 123 and everywhere else in between.

Now, I have indeed fine tuned the thing with 1.2 for the strongest signal, but I assume I could of done away with that by putting a bit more time in tweaking the alignment.

At any rate, little of this matters. This guy said that USALS on his dish was so far off that it was tracking the WRONG Satellites. I never seen one that far off......

[rainman]

Regardless of whether the dish is aligned perfectly or not, USALS assumes that the motor's zero position is correct. The motor's zero point is not always correct. Mine was off a couple degrees, and therefore USALS won't work (unless I lie to it about my longitude).
So unless you assume that calibrating the motor's zero position is part of the alignment, then USALS doesn't always work.
I *THINK* that with most motors, that you can calibrate the zero position just by manually setting it to zero and doing a hard reset. I've never bothered doing that on mine, because I was afraid that it would change all my diseqC-1.2 positions, but I think it would work.

I do consider part of the alignment process is making sure the motor is set to zero. besides it makes the rest of the setup a lot easier once you get zeroed in on your true south sat the rest just fall in to place. I am not saying usals is better just easier to align the dish.

[Muad'Dib]

NO!!!! If the dish is properly aligned and you have the correct coordinates in, USALS is ALWAYS CORRECT!

Sorry, this is not true.
Read around in some other forums and you will see that it doesnt work always.
Don't forget the big factor which is the RECEIVER used.

[Bibbler]

Sorry, this is not true.
Read around in some other forums and you will see that it doesnt work always.
Don't forget the big factor which is the RECEIVER used.

Ahhhh, OK, USALS depends on what receiver you are using. Please explain. I'm really interested in hearing this..