FTA & HD also IRD's w/component out

videobruce · #1 (**permalink**) 07-11-2005, 01:02 PM

I'm sure this is really a dumb question, but is there any chance there is ANY HD material on FTA transponders?
Next equally dumb question; are there any IRD's with component outputs (RGB)?

Shawn95GT · #2 (**permalink**) 08-27-2005, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by videobruce

I'm sure this is really a dumb question, but is there any chance there is ANY HD material on FTA transponders?
Next equally dumb question; are there any IRD's with component outputs (RGB)?

On AMC3 there is PBS HD (12128 Horiz, S/R 14025)

Aside from that there HD feeds / backhauls.

The Pansat 3500s has component output but doesn't do HD

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Shawn

videobruce · #3 (**permalink**) 08-27-2005, 07:44 PM

Since I posted the question I did find that unit and ordered it. I will post on the quality of the component out when I get my HD set.

Do you know of any other receiver with component out?

Shawn95GT · #4 (**permalink**) 08-27-2005, 08:46 PM

QUALI-TV has one - it's about $600. Since this is Sadoun's forum I won't link it but google comes up with some UK sites that sell it.

I'd be interested to hear your opinion of the picture quality via component from that Pansat 3500s. I plan on buying one before too long. I'm trying to hold off buying it as long as possible in case an affordable HD DVB STB box becomes readily available.

Maybe they'll come up with some kind of HD sidecar for the DVB receivers like the HDD200 is to the 4DTV boxes.

Shawn

videobruce · #5 (**permalink**) 08-28-2005, 05:43 AM

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n case an affordable HD DVB STB box becomes readily available.

Might be witing for awhile..............
There is a product that interfaces with a STB for recording into a computer. I can't think of th name (it's not that 169time thing either).

Admin · #6 (**permalink**) 08-28-2005, 02:14 PM

Am I missing something here? component out does not mean that the receiver will show HD signal. It has to have a built-in HD tuner to do so. The 3500 receiver does not have that.

#-o

Shawn95GT · #7 (**permalink**) 08-28-2005, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Admin

Am I missing something here? component out does not mean that the receiver will show HD signal. It has to have a built-in HD tuner to do so. The 3500 receiver does not have that.

#-o

No not missing anything. I want a component output reciever so that it will look better on my 50" TV. I'm looking forward to his experience to see if he notices an improvement with the component input.

Unfortunately we know all too well what it doesn't do HD. As far as I can tell it doesn't upconvert to 480p either (which would be a nice bonus).

Shawn

Admin · #8 (**permalink**) 08-28-2005, 02:56 PM

Ok, as long as that is clear so readers don't get confused. :mozilla_cool:

videobruce · #9 (**permalink**) 08-29-2005, 07:32 AM

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No not missing anything. I want a component output reciever so that it will look better on my 50" TV. I'm looking forward to his experience to see if he notices an improvement with the component input.

Thank you. At least someone other than myself is on the same track.

S-video isn't that much of a improvement. It was very over rated IMO. I have S-VHS and THAT difference is very noticeable, but the Y/C inputs aren't. That also depends on the comb filter in the set. Eariler sets had poor filters and the Y/C input did make a difference. Later (and better) sets had a digital 3 loine filter and the difference was mill.

RGB, or should I say component hopefully will show a larger improvement even though it isn't HD.

Shawn95GT · #10 (**permalink**) 10-27-2005, 02:49 AM

It has been a while since we had this discusison, but I finally broke down and picked up a 3500s.

Coming from a Coolsat, I have to say that I really dislike the interface.

The picture quality via component is nothing short of amazing as compared to composite or S-video.

Another feature I'm sure many will appreciate is that the 16x9 mode actually does something. In 16x9 mode it pillar-boxes the output so you don't have to look at the 4:3 image stretched out.

Of course usually the TV set handles this but I thought it was kind of cool to have that option.

I bought the 3500s because it had the skew control for my newly installed baby-BUD and I went with the 3500 over the 2700 for the component video.

Shawn

videobruce · #11 (**permalink**) 10-27-2005, 07:05 AM

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Coming from a Coolsat, I have to say that I really dislike the interface.

I haven't had any experiance with Coolsat, but have had experiance with another 'unknown' receiver and that unknown was far better that Pansat's menu. The only thing worse that the menu is the (lack of) instruction book!

When someone from the importer tells you that "you need to hire a professional installer" just because the book is incorrect and lacking of correct information, they need to reexamine why they are here in the US!

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The picture quality via component is nothing short of amazing as compared to composite or S-video.

There is THAT much difference over your Coolsat?? Could it be just because it's a different receiver, or have you tried the S-video out on this model for comparision?

Shawn95GT · #12 (**permalink**) 10-27-2005, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by videobruce

There is THAT much difference over your Coolsat?? Could it be just because it's a different receiver, or have you tried the S-video out on this model for comparision?

On my TV (RCA 50" DLP) - yes.

My TV seems to have a serious dislike for anything 480i/p in general but even my digital cable which looks incredible on my tube sets look like complete crap on my HD set.

The picture via component is much improved over s-video / composite. When I first hooked the box up I hooked it up the same as I had the coolsat (S-video) and I saw about the same quality as I did with the Coolsat.

I would best describe it as via component there is less noise.

I noticed that the new Coolsat 5000 which we should see availalble in November has component out :mozilla_cool: .

Shawn

videobruce · #13 (**permalink**) 10-27-2005, 11:56 AM

Component on the 5000? =D>
If I can't get this POS Pansat to work properly that might be a option. Any idea on the price?

As far as the difference between S-video and component, how about 'apparent' resolution (sharpness)?

videobruce · #14 (**permalink**) 01-21-2006, 10:40 AM

The level of the component out on the Coolsat 5000 is very low. I found it completely unacceptable so I switch it to S-video. This was on a friends instalation on a Sony CRT 16x9 set which didn't look that great in the first place.

Also, Viewsat has the Extreme which has component out and Ariza just added their version; the AT-XTREME. I did run across one other, but didn't reconize the name.

That makes four known names with component out unless someone else knows of others.

r123 · #15 (**permalink**) 03-16-2006, 10:18 AM

Is there a receiver for FTA channels which has a capability of showing the HD content as my TV has inbuilt HDTV tuner.

Thanks

elgemcdlf · #16 (**permalink**) 03-16-2006, 10:50 AM

Yes there is a receiver that does HD. It is manufactured in Korea. I do not remember the name but a search should turn it up.

starman · #17 (**permalink**) 03-16-2006, 12:08 PM

Qualitv, Integra(not sure if these are still in production) , and I"ve also seen Zinwell dvb-s2 models that will do hdtv, however all of them are a lot more $$ than the non hdtv boxes.