Problem locking in to new frequencies of Samanyolu.

[nsical]

This channel is on IA5 (Telstar5).
It used to be at 12177 - V - 23000, now at 11874 - H - 22000.
I have Prosat P-6600 receiver. I added that transponder and
re-selected IA5, but it can't lock on this new frequencies.
I live in Sunnyvale, Ca. I use a 36" dish and my LNB seems to be
0.6 dB (not sure what that means), also the plastic tip of the
LNB is almost torn.

Currently there is color bars in the old freqs and I can see them
well.

Thanks for any help,
nsical.

[boroda1]

samaniolu tv is on 11873 H 22000, vpid 1380 apid 1381.
Next time check "IA5" thread
My dish is 30", but LNB is better- 0.4 low noise rate from Sadoun, KUL2

[pictureon]

11874 is very weak transponder. You might want to fine tune your dish to get better signal.

[nsical]

Very strange, www.samanyolu.us never mentions 11873, they say
it should be in 11874 H 22000 V=1360, A=1361.

On my Prosat P-6600, I added tp 11873, also 1380 as a service,
and when I made it search, it came up with two places. Better one is in
11873 H 22000, V=1360, A=1361. It shows error rate %9-11, hence
sometimes the video gets blurry. I will play with the dish a bit to see
if it improves. The other was in 11874, rest the same, but worse picture.

I still don't understand how it shows up in 11873 even though
www.lyngsat.com shows it under 11874? Also, I couldn't make
the receiver pick 11873 H 22000, V=1380 A=1381, it constantly
picks 1360. Not sure if it would make difference.

Thanks,
nsical.

[Iceberg]

the frequency if its off by 1 is no biggie. Your LNB may have some "floating" when blind scanning. If Lyngsat says 11874, then log it as that (unless you have a blind scan)

[wejones]

Very strange, www.samanyolu.us never mentions 11873, they say
it should be in 11874 H 22000 V=1360, A=1361.

On my Prosat P-6600, I added tp 11873, also 1380 as a service,
and when I made it search, it came up with two places. Better one is in
11873 H 22000, V=1360, A=1361. It shows error rate %9-11, hence
sometimes the video gets blurry. I will play with the dish a bit to see
if it improves. The other was in 11874, rest the same, but worse picture.

I still don't understand how it shows up in 11873 even though
www.lyngsat.com shows it under 11874? Also, I couldn't make
the receiver pick 11873 H 22000, V=1380 A=1381, it constantly
picks 1360. Not sure if it would make difference.

Thanks,
nsical.

The correct frequency seems to be 11874, however what you actuallysee on your system can vary depending on your hardware. Mostreceivers seem to be relatively accurate with respect to freq sincethey are generally in a controlled environment, but LNBs canvary. They can be off when new, can drift with temperature duringthe day often up to a few MHz, can change freq with age or changes inthe components, etc. I have one lnb now that is off by 2 MHz allthe time. My other lnb is right on. I once had an LNB thatwas right on, but during a hot spell in the summer suddenly had it'sfreq change by 20 MHz. If I would look at the above transponderon one of my systems, I'd use 11872, while on my other system I woulduse 11874. Actually, what I've done is changed the LO freq on myone system from 10750 to 10752, which allows me to use the correcttransponder freq.
Also, some receivers will tune transponders way off thefreq they are set for. Just the other day, I was tuned to atransponder and while watching, it went off the air. Then, afterseveral minutes my receiver locked onto another signal, which I assumedwas on the same freq, but when I tried to tune it in with anotherreceiver, I couldn't. I found that the new freq was 5 or 6 MHzhigher in freq. I found that one of my receivers can tune signalsthat are off by as much as 10 MHz, and even be off by 2000 in the SRvalue, while my other receivers need to be within 1 or 2 MHz in freqand within about 8 or 10 in the SR, or they won't lock. So a lotdepends on your specific receiver.


Anyway, if you consistently find that you get betterreception when tuned off by a MHz or two, you might consider changingyour LO freq in your LNBF setup. If it's just drift, then youhave to live with it, but if it is consistently off, you're best offchanging the LO freq.




Re the 1380/1381 PIDs, there aren't any 1380/1381 PIDson that transponder, now at least. 1360/1361 is correct, and whatyou should get if you scan. If you manually enter 1380/1381, youwouldn't get any audio or video.