New LNBF

[Jim-S]

Yesterday I received my new QPH-031 and SSM21H 22khz mulitswitch.
In the Mercury II antenna set-up I want to make sure I do this right.
The Linear side LNB set up is 10750 standard
And the Circular side will be 11250
Set 22khz to on
Then set the ports according to where I attach the feeds from the LNBF.
Now will I have to rescan all satellites with the new freq. of the Linear side of LNBF. If so can I do a factory reset to clear all the channels out.
Also I use USALS. I should still be able to use this..
I hope I can get to this today for sure tomorrow. I may have honey-do's today........If your married you know what I mean.
Any other thoughts would be appreciated.
Jim

[Vitruvius]

Jim, your summary sounds correct. If you do a factory reset, I would move the motor back to 0 before doing that. It may not matter, but it wouldn't hurt. Don't forget to put in your Lat and Long afterward, and any other settings you were using such as SPDIF and beeping tuning.
You really don't have to do a factory reset, and I would do this after you have all the cabling and dish pointing correct... You can just go in and change the frequency for the specific sat to match the LNB.

It is always best to put together a simpler system and get your dish pointed correctly. I would keep the switch out of the mix until you are happy with the new LNB. Most signals will be linear, so just use that part of the LNB and connect like you had it before without the switch. When you have the LNB working.. and settings the way you like then install the switch. You don't need to delete all the stations so use what you have for set up. You can do the factory reset after all the hardware is in place.

good luck

[Jim-S]

I got everything put together and seemed to work fine I changed all programed sat's to the new LNB freq 10750 and I was able to get all channels. After that, I now have trouble moving the dish. It moves intermittenly no set pattern. It works ok with the manual buttons on the motor. My system has worked fine before with the UNI LNB for a about a year.
I have the QPH-031 and the SSM21H 22khz switch.
Back to antenna setup........
LNB Type.......10750 (Linear)
Positioner...........USALS
Transponder..........
0/22khz..................ON
Switch..................should this be "None" or "DiSEqC" 1.0 ???
Input.................???????????????
Port.................???????????????????
Now when I change to Circular do I have to change anything else other than LNB Type to 11250.
I shouldn't have to change any thing in the Motorized setup. (USALS)
Am I missing something.
Do I have to change the antenna setup for all sats even if not used that are in the reciever?

[Vitruvius]

Jim, Ok, if your motor is giving you problems, try setting everything up without the switch. This is as if you have just one LNB, no switch and only linear frequencies. This will give you most of the sats. Yes, each satellite needs to be set up in your tuner for the linear LNB. If you used USALS for positioner before, keep that.

Try changing channels and see if the motor moves correctly for you as it did before.

Once this is confirmed, then you can add the switch into it. Using a switch you have to tell the receiver which port to use and you will be using Diseqc 1.0 (or 1.1) to do this. You will have to tell the receiver which port (1 or 2) for linear or circular frequencies for that particular satellite.

Use 1 and 1, and 2 and 2 for input and port.

[Jim-S]

Jim, Ok, if your motor is giving you problems, try setting everything up without the switch. This is as if you have just one LNB, no switch and only linear frequencies. This will give you most of the sats. Yes, each satellite needs to be set up in your tuner for the linear LNB. If you used USALS for positioner before, keep that.

Try changing channels and see if the motor moves correctly for you as it did before.

Once this is confirmed, then you can add the switch into it. Using a switch you have to tell the receiver which port to use and you will be using Diseqc 1.0 (or 1.1) to do this. You will have to tell the receiver which port (1 or 2) for linear or circular frequencies for that particular satellite.

Use 1 and 1, and 2 and 2 for input and port.

I don't have a Diseqc switch it is a 22khz switch.. Do I still need to tell which port because the switch is either on or off. The switch is labeled
LNC "A" 13/18V 22khz-- Center "Rx"-- LNC "B" 13/18V-- I think this works with 22khz on or off in antenna setup I think. It seems to work that way.
The problem I have is when I connect side "L" of LNB straight thru without switch it works fine....If connect the "C" of LNB straight thru without the switch it works fine...If connect the "L" of the LNB to the switch and receiver/motor to switch it works fine but when I connect the "C" of the LNB to switch I run into trouble moving the dish/motor.
I am able to get all my channels on Linear and I get NASA and Angel on Echostar 7 119. It is the problem of moving the dish, it moves at random.
I have the "L" side of LNB connected to "A"...and "C" of LNB connected to "B" of the switch. If and when it moves it lands on the correct satellite.
I am happy that I can get NASA, but I need full movement.
Not discouraged yet.....you or someone has the answer......
Thanks for your help..............Jim

[Vitruvius]

Jim, I am not too knowledgable about the 22kh switch... I thought it would work the same as a Diseqc switch. Perhaps someone else has some ideas.

I think you still may need to tell the receiver which port to use A or B, and in the receiver it would be 1 and 2. Have these be designated for each satellite?

I also had initial problems with my DG280 motor in that it acted erratic when first set up... I toggled something, and it worked just great afterwards. But you had your system working fine before so I am perplexed.

Good luck.

[Jim-S]

Jim, I am not too knowledgable about the 22kh switch... I thought it would work the same as a Diseqc switch. Perhaps someone else has some ideas.

I think you still may need to tell the receiver which port to use A or B, and in the receiver it would be 1 and 2. Have these be designated for each satellite?

I also had initial problems with my DG280 motor in that it acted erratic when first set up... I toggled something, and it worked just great afterwards. But you had your system working fine before so I am perplexed.

Good luck.

In the antenna setup you put in your LNB LO ie 10750 for Linear and 11250 for Circular. Then for the 22khz you put in "ON" or "OFF" they cannot be the same. It then tells the switch way to operate. The connector labeled 22khz on the switch goes to that connector of the LNB which you assigned the "ON" in the attenna setup. I think this correct because it is working.............
This morning I had an interesting problem. I was watching NASA on E7 119
sat. I hit the sat button on the remote and only the ID of the screen appeared no channel or sat listing, then the receiver like cycled off then on (wierd) also the lip sync and audio did not match, but it came up on it's own it was all fine. I then was able to move to four sats without a problem. Time will tell if all is ok.
This must run in the family....I have a brother in Naples Florida, he has the big dish for years......when the hurricane brushed FL. he think he got hit by lighting......new receiver still have problems...all in the family.
Thanks for yor reply.....have you got it altogether now.
Jim

[Iceberg]

I assume the 22k switch is between the motor & LNB?

I would plug the 0k side (22k off) to the linear and the 22k on side to the circular side. You should not have to rescan. Just change the LNB LO on the KU sats from UNI to 10750 and save

It should work fine. I have a 4x4 switch (think 4 22k switches built into one) on my motorized. Setup is

receiver-----motor----4x4 multiswitch port 1------2 LNB's (linear/circular)
receiver 2------------4x4 multiswitch port 2

etc

receiver 1 controls the motor and the rest are slaved

[Jim-S]

I assume the 22k switch is between the motor & LNB?

I would plug the 0k side (22k off) to the linear and the 22k on side to the circular side. You should not have to rescan. Just change the LNB LO on the KU sats from UNI to 10750 and save

It should work fine. I have a 4x4 switch (think 4 22k switches built into one) on my motorized. Setup is

receiver-----motor----4x4 multiswitch port 1------2 LNB's (linear/circular)
receiver 2------------4x4 multiswitch port 2

etc

receiver 1 controls the motor and the rest are slaved

Thanks for the reply Iceberg.....Yes I have the switch between the motor and LNB........I have Linear "ON" and Circular "OFF". The system seems to be working ok if I don't try to move the dish repeatedly, but wait for awhile between moves. I will try to your suggestion "L" off and C to on.
In the Mercury II there is an Edit LNB Menu to change parameters. The receiver seems to work fine without editing. Your thoughts.
Jim