Bell Express VU Radio - Setup ?

matty · #1 (**permalink**) 07-07-2005, 04:28 PM

Hi there,
FTA Radio thats exactly what I try to get,... but I'm stuck :-k and can't find a signal. What's wrong ? I want to get the canadian Radio Stations on Bell Express VU Nimiq 1 at 91 East

My Setup:
I'm in Seattle, WA
18 " DirectTV Dish

LNB says:
Compatible with DIRECTV Multi-Satellite,
DIRECTV PARA TODOS And DIRECTV Dish Antennas
12,2 ~ 12.7 GHz SF2-D3

My receiver is from Europe:
Thomson DSR 200 TA
It's a normal FTA receiver that worked perfekt over there.
I can switch it to NTSC so no problem from this side.

I pointed the dish to nimiq 1/3 from my point of view: 140 deg with the help of the sun ( more reliable then a compass) Elev. 27,5.

My guess is that I"m doing something wrong with the Frequences:

In the Setup I put in LNB Frequ 1: 11250

And what do I have to put then as Transponder Frequency the real frequency for BEV 12224 or IF 974 ?????

Is there anything wrong with my setup ?

Thanks for your advices and help !!!
martin

kevision · #2 (**permalink**) 07-08-2005, 12:49 AM

you need a linear LNB. DirecTV is circular polarity (i think, i always get this wrong) while Dish/Evu is linear.
Frequencies appear fine.

vj9999 · #3 (**permalink**) 07-08-2005, 08:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kevision

you need a linear LNB. DirecTV is circular polarity (i think, i always get this wrong) while Dish/Evu is linear.
Frequencies appear fine.

Dish and Vu use circular polarity as well. Dish has couple of Sats with linear polarity, but all the ones with radio stations are circular.

matty · #4 (**permalink**) 07-08-2005, 10:34 AM

Quote:

Dish and Vu use circular polarity as well. Dish has couple of Sats with linear polarity, but all the ones with radio stations are circular.

Thanks I know that. But what I do not know is whats my problem ! Any clue ? Which frequency do I have to put in ? The total or the IF ?
Thanks for any help
m

kevision · #5 (**permalink**) 07-08-2005, 11:14 AM

Quote:

LNB says:
Compatible with DIRECTV Multi-Satellite,
DIRECTV PARA TODOS And DIRECTV Dish Antennas

i still think you need a DishNetwork LNB.

TOCKCC · #6 (**permalink**) 07-08-2005, 06:01 PM

Direct or Dish LNB'S will work for circular DVB signals but I believe all BEV signasls are now encrypted.

Tom

bobkat · #7 (**permalink**) 07-08-2005, 08:50 PM

Most of the radio channels are encrypted but lyngsat still shows a handful that are Free; http://www.lyngsat.com/91west.html

I don't know how up to date lyngsat is however...

Any DirecTV or Dishnet circular LNB will work for Nimiq 1 (ExpressVu).

madbob · #8 (**permalink**) 07-08-2005, 11:02 PM

The radio stations may now be encrypted now that BEV has gone Nagra2.

TOCKCC · #9 (**permalink**) 07-08-2005, 11:09 PM

The radio stations on BEV were encrypted a long time ago, I used to listen to them. The stations on dish are still in the clear.

Tom

bobkat · #10 (**permalink**) 07-09-2005, 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by madbob

The radio stations may now be encrypted now that BEV has gone Nagra2.

That's what I figure...

kat

bobkat · #11 (**permalink**) 07-09-2005, 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by matty

In the Setup I put in LNB Frequ 1: 11250

And what do I have to put then as Transponder Frequency the real frequency for BEV 12224 or IF 974 ?????

Is there anything wrong with my setup ?

Thanks for your advices and help !!!
martin

The LNB frequency is 11,250 MHz. Enter the transponder data as per the chart from lyngsat; http://www.lyngsat.com/91west.html

Then scan the channels and see what you get. However there might not be any free radio channels from ExpressVu anymore.

kat

TOCKCC · #12 (**permalink**) 07-09-2005, 03:54 PM

All of the comercial free radio on BEV scrambled long before Nagra 2. There were some comercial stations in the clear but I don't know if they are still there. I no longer have a dish pointed at Nimiq 1.

Tom
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matty · #13 (**permalink**) 07-09-2005, 11:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by madbob

The radio stations may now be encrypted now that BEV has gone Nagra2.

Thanks everybody for your help !
Finally I got it ! The satellite was just a tiny little bit higher then expected ;-)

The point of the whole thing was to give my canadian girlfriend the chance to listen to ( good) canadian CBC with a lot of classical music.

All the normal Radiostations are still not encrypted

thanks again
martin

These are the stations I get:
1 - CBC Radio One (CBU) (Vancouver)
2 - CBC Radio Two (CBUFM) (Vancouver)
3 - CBC Radio One (CBLA) (Toronto)
4 - CBC Radio Two (CBOQ) (Ottawa)
5 - CBHA-FM 90.5 (Halifax)
6 - CFMX-FM - Classical 96 FM (Toronto)
7 - CJPX-FM (Montréal)
8 - Jazz FM 91 (CJRT) (Toronto)
9 - CBC-AM Français
10 - Première Chaîne
11 - Chain Culturell
12 - New Rock Edge 102 (CFNY) (Toronto)
13 - Radio Desjardins
14 - Radio Metro
15 - Iga Radio
16 - CJKR-FM - Power 97 FM (Winnipeg)
17 - OZ FM (CHOZ) (St. John's)
18 - Classic Rock Q107 (CILQ) (Toronto)
19 - Wahsa FM
20 - CJAD 800 AM (Montréal)
21 - Country 105 CKRY-FM (Calgary)
22 - Wawatay Radio Network
23 - Radio Herz
24 - CKAC 730 Montreal
25 - VoicePrint
26 - VOice of Prophecy 1210 AM
27 - RFI - Radio France Internationale
28 - 680 News

bobkat · #14 (**permalink**) 07-10-2005, 10:55 AM

Interesting... Looks like only the Galaxy music channels are encrypted. Oh well, still lots of good music and news channels for your GF to listen to. BTW, Country 105 Calgary is excellent if you are into C&W. :mozilla_laughing:

kat

PIONEER25213 · #15 (**permalink**) 11-03-2005, 02:27 PM

Hey Matty, :mozilla_laughing:

I listen to the Canadian music from Bell Express. Yes, you can use your direct tv sat dish for Bell Exspress,with the circular lnb.Thats what I'm using(18" dish, and circular LNB).Try this. Select TP2, With freq-12238, SR-20000, and polarization (H).Aim your dish,according to your location, and see what that does.Hope this helps.

REGARDS, PIONEER :mozilla_cool: