Found my problem

Jim-S · #1 (**permalink**) 01-12-2008, 03:25 PM

Wow, after 6 months of trying to locate my problem of my motor (DG-240) not moving or moving intermitting (remember I am new to FTA) I narrowed it down to the LNB. It may be strange but when I disconnect the coax to the LNB the motor moves every time. I replaced the coax to the LNB that did not help.
Now what do you think, do I get another one or is there a remedy for this? This LNB is only 6 months old it may be under warranty.
FYI when I am on a satellite I get a great signal and picture.
I will be calling Sadoun next week, they have been real patient with me for the last 6 months trying to help me and testing my receiver. They have been great.
Jim

ayelvington · #2 (**permalink**) 01-12-2008, 05:43 PM

Is your LNB a universal or standard LNB ? If it's a universal LNB, the 22kHz switch in it may be unhappy with the 22kHz detector in the motor. It's something that you could ask people smarter than me.

Thanks for keeping all of us looped in! This is the kind of stuff that'll make us all smarter some day

A

Jim-S · #3 (**permalink**) 01-13-2008, 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by ayelvington

Is your LNB a universal or standard LNB ? If it's a universal LNB, the 22kHz switch in it may be unhappy with the 22kHz detector in the motor. It's something that you could ask people smarter than me.

Thanks for keeping all of us looped in! This is the kind of stuff that'll make us all smarter some day

A

Thanks for the reply..........I just assumed it would be the LNB, but you brought up a point....I had Sadoun test the receiver found OK. I was going to send in the motor until I tested it myself off the mast and on my work bench. I found it worked fine even with 150' of coax. I hope others will respond to this thread maybe someone else had this problem.
It's a universal single LNBF (ULN1)
Jim

Jim-S · #4 (**permalink**) 01-16-2008, 10:20 AM

Anybody else have any ideas about this before I send the motor and LNB to Sadoun for testing.....

rainman · #5 (**permalink**) 01-16-2008, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim-S

Anybody else have any ideas about this before I send the motor and LNB to Sadoun for testing.....

if it's working fine with the lnbf out of the picture Jim then it sounds like it might be shorted in the lnbf. have you tried a new cable between the motor and lnbf?

Jim-S · #6 (**permalink**) 01-17-2008, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by rainman

if it's working fine with the lnbf out of the picture Jim then it sounds like it might be shorted in the lnbf. have you tried a new cable between the motor and lnbf?

Thanks for the reply. If you remember I was having trouble for a long time with it not moving or moving intermittenly. I always got a good signal and a good picture and yes I did replace all coax including the one from LNB to motor. I have now sent the motor and LNB to Sadoun for testing. They have tested my Mercury II and found it to be ok. We will wait and see. They said it could be a card in the motor.
Jim

rainman · #7 (**permalink**) 01-17-2008, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim-S

Thanks for the reply. If you remember I was having trouble for a long time with it not moving or moving intermittenly. I always got a good signal and a good picture and yes I did replace all coax including the one from LNB to motor. I have now sent the motor and LNB to Sadoun for testing. They have tested my Mercury II and found it to be ok. We will wait and see. They said it could be a card in the motor.
Jim

good luck Jim and keep us inform.

Jim-S · #8 (**permalink**) 01-18-2008, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by rainman

good luck Jim and keep us inform.

Yes I will keep the forum informed...I have learned so much on this forum, I feel it may help others as well.
Jim

Jim-S · #9 (**permalink**) 02-03-2008, 04:58 PM

Hi again.....Still having trouble moving dish.....
This is a recap.....I have replaced all my coax, changed connectors several times, sent my receiver in to be tested, found OK, Replaced the motor with the same model. The only thing left is the LNBF I have not replaced it yet.
What is happening I have found out, I may be able to move the dish about five times and then it will not move. It will stop moving on any satellite not just the same one. When I remove the coax from the LNBF, I can move the dish every time. When I am on a satellite I get a good picture, good signal, and good quality. Can an LNBF cause such a problem. Having good signal but not let the motor move. I have only three satellites programed in the receiver so its not over loaded.
I have about 120' of coax from receiver to dish, Mercury II, DG-240, 90cm dish mounted on a 7' mast in the ground.
My next move is to try a new Universal single LNBF????????

rainman · #10 (**permalink**) 02-03-2008, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim-S

Hi again.....Still having trouble moving dish.....
This is a recap.....I have replaced all my coax, changed connectors several times, sent my receiver in to be tested, found OK, Replaced the motor with the same model. The only thing left is the LNBF I have not replaced it yet.
What is happening I have found out, I may be able to move the dish about five times and then it will not move. It will stop moving on any satellite not just the same one. When I remove the coax from the LNBF, I can move the dish every time. When I am on a satellite I get a good picture, good signal, and good quality. Can an LNBF cause such a problem. Having good signal but not let the motor move. I have only three satellites programed in the receiver so its not over loaded.
I have about 120' of coax from receiver to dish, Mercury II, DG-240, 90cm dish mounted on a 7' mast in the ground.
My next move is to try a new Universal single LNBF????????

it sure sounds like a lnbf be worth a try.

Jim-S · #11 (**permalink**) 02-03-2008, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by rainman

it sure sounds like a lnbf be worth a try.

I guess so, I think it carries a two year warrantee I'll have to check with Sadoun, they have been really great to deal with.

Jim-S · #12 (**permalink**) 02-08-2008, 10:03 AM

I hope this is my last update on my trouble with moving my motor after about 6 months (I know I'm a real wiz) I replaced my Universal Single LNBF and problem solved. I can now move my motor, I'm a happy camper.
When I removed my LNBF, I noticed water coming out of it I do not see any cracks. Not alot of water but enought to wet my hand and drip down off my hand. Is there a way to prevent this, I know they are supposed to water proof. Can it be covered some how. I live in Michigan and our weather changes quite often.
Also is Cuba-vision still FTA I can't seem to get it on Intelsat 9 58 deg.

Jim-S · #13 (**permalink**) 02-08-2008, 05:31 PM

I finely solved my problem of my motor not moving it was the LNBF when I would disconnect it the motor would move properly reconnect LNBF the motor would move about 4 to 5 times and stop. I replaced the LNBF and everything is great. I always had a great picture and signal? Is there a way to seal these universal single LNBF from the weather. The old one when I removed it a little water came out. In Michigan we have such weather changes............
Jim

rainman · #14 (**permalink**) 02-08-2008, 06:54 PM

Jim glad to here you got it fixed sometimes it's the easiest thing that you wouldn't expect.

Jim-S · #15 (**permalink**) 02-09-2008, 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by rainman

Jim glad to here you got it fixed sometimes it's the easiest thing that you wouldn't expect.

You got that right.......I'm still on the learning curve...who would think that if I was receiving a good picture, signal and quality it still could be bad and affect the motor......

mrjaybov · #16 (**permalink**) 02-09-2008, 10:46 AM

I bought a SG2100 motor from Sadoun for my Viewsat Ultra/Winegard ds2076 dish. When I hooked the motor to the receiver I get no power what so ever, anyone have any ideas about that??

Jim-S · #17 (**permalink**) 02-09-2008, 04:37 PM

I do not know what to do. I had said everything was fine now that I replaced the LNBF, not so, after about 20 moves it stopped.
I have had the receiver tested before and it was found ok, I replaced all coax with satellite rated coax, I replaced the motor, new LNBF. I am using all snap and seal connectors. I have about 120' of coax with one grounding connector I tried bypassing it, didn't make any difference. It acts the same if I have the system grounded or not. I use USALS. I am at a loss...............................Could it be a UFO?