Mercury II where are the saved items

[Doofuss]

I'm just getting started.

I have located satellites and am able to get it to auto scan a number of satellites with perhaps 140+ FTA and one radio results.

When asked to save them I choose yes. But I never see them again.

Does it not save them so I can look at them?

If I do a single satellite scan in the setup area I believe thery hang around, but with auto scan they dissapear when saved.

[rainman]

click on the sat button and the channels you scaned for that sat will come up.

[Doofuss]

I just did an auto search of a bunch of sats. Do I have to access each one (sat) individually now and organize them soimehow?

What is the sat button?

Is it an actual button on the remote?

An icon on the remote? or some image on the screen while in what screen?

[Doofuss]

I just found the sat button.

In the first image (or something like that) you see a screen that apparently has saved one radio channel? the same as img three

next I find the sat button and press it and see three sats listed and choose all and hit enter which brings up ythe third screen and I see none of those what were numbered to 140 results I thought I had saved after the auto scan

[rainman]

you look like you are on the radio side. hit the tv radio button to get back to the tv side.

[Doofuss]

I am at 121 west

So I went through all my sats between 72 and 138 west (as a starter if nothing else) chose ku or not c band and set each one to usals? and my lnb, positioner on.

then went to auto scan FTP and added the same sats to that and let it run. It runs for an hour or more moving the dish to the next sat each time apparently searching each through it's pre determined perameters and builds a list. which appeared to be as many as 140, being as it was labeling them as such.

I next choose save.

But can't locate anything but some 2050 that I can't delete.

Do I need to program each tp and all before scanning. And I was inclined to believe by choosing usals it would figgure it out.


Am I missing something?

Don't tell me to ingest alcohol!

[rainman]

A little alcohol never hurts.LOL

now pick 1 sat lets go with IA5(G25) do a power scan and when it says save hit enter it should go to one of the channels you just scaned.then hit sat button select IA5 and you should see all the channels you saved for IA5.

[wejones]

Originally Posted by Doofuss

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I next choose save.

But can't locate anything but some 2050 that I can't delete.
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BTW, that "Channel 2050" ( or actually "Channel 20500" ), is one of those DATA channels that I *assume* to be Hughesnet. Those transponders have a channel structure, but there are no video/audio PIDs associated, so even though it may save as a channel, it actually isn't a channel that you can watch. It is just internet data.
Now, as to WHICH Hughesnet transponder that might be..... From your picture, I see that your receiver *THINKS* you are on IA5 , which is one of the few sats where I don't remember seeing a Hughesnet transponder, so at a minimum, I think you are out of sync and not on the satellites you think you are on, and possibly out of alignment, or possibly your dish isn't moving. I tried to figure out which satellite from the SR value. Your picture shows that the channel was saved with an SR of 22,000. The most common SR of those data channels is 30,000, followed by 10,000, 6,000, 5,000 21,500, but I don't remember seeing one with an SR of 22,000, so I tried looking around Lyngsat and other databases, but I couldn't find a Hughesnet with an SR of 22,000. So I don't know WHAT sat you were on when you found that Channel 20500. However, I'm pretty sure that it WASN'T IA5.
Before trying to mess with doing that auto-scan thing, you have to verify that you are on the satellites you think you are on. Earlier, you said that you had "located satellites", but you didn't say how you knew this, because the only way to know that you have located satellites is to be able to scan in channels that are known to be on each satellite. So I really have to question whether you have really located satellites in the sense of knowing what sat you are on. Ie you may have located a satellite, but not the one you think you have.
Second, before doing anything, you need to locate your true south sat, and at least one sat near your horizon, otherwise you don't know if you're on or near the arc.
When trying to locate your south and extreme sats, I really recommend doing a transponder scan using a known good transponder. Don't use this auto scan or satellite scan or anything. Bring up the transponder scan, choose a known transponder and watch the signal meters. If you get a quality reading, then do a scan, and see if the channel that scans in matches what you see in Lyngsat.
The auto scan thing you're using will only work once you have your system aligned, and I think it's very likely that you don't have it aligned.

EDIT: ALSO... are you sure that the dish is actually moving?

[Doofuss]

Originally Posted by rainman

A little alcohol never hurts.LOL

now pick 1 sat lets go with IA5(G25) do a power scan and when it says save hit enter it should go to one of the channels you just scaned.then hit sat button select IA5 and you should see all the channels you saved for IA5.

I've done a one sat scan with sucess.

I am onto multi sat scan using something called auto scan, of which differs from power scan in some fashion and was unable to obviously (to me) save and paruse these (channels??)

as it is 7am and the first batch of oatmeal is in the garbage, that, along with my desire to make this frustrating ground floor learning curve palatable, I may just go boating for a bit.

BBL

[wejones]

Originally Posted by Doofuss

I've done a one sat scan with sucess.

I am onto multi sat scan using something called auto scan, of which differs from power scan in some fashion and was unable to obviously (to me) save and paruse these (channels??)

as it is 7am and the first batch of oatmeal is in the garbage, that, along with my desire to make this frustrating ground floor learning curve palatable, I may just go boating for a bit.

BBL

I just came back from boating. Didn't catch any fish, but got some good pictures of loons.

Sat scans just go through the transponder freqs that are saved in your receiver (or as part of the default transponder list). Power scans will find transponders and channels even if they are not already saved. Sat scans and multisat scans don't do you any good unless the transponders saved in the receiver are up to date. When you are trying to locate satellites, you are best off using the transponder scan option.
I think I now understand where you got the Channel 20500 with the 22000 SR value. Sat IA5 has a transponder on 11874 with an SR of 22000. On G3c, there is a Hughesnet transponder with an SR of 21500. The Mercury and other blind scan receivers can lock on transponders even if the given SR value is off by quite a bit. If you did a blind scan, that would have saved as a 22000 SR. Anyway, I'm guessing that you are really aimed at G3c when your receiver thinks you are aimed at IA5 (G25) . As a test, you could create a manual transponder with freq=11780H with SR=20760, then do a transponder scan, I'll bet that you would scan in the CCTV channels on G3c even when your receiver thinks you are on IA5.
But the real problem is that you are either out of alignment OR out of sync. If you are just out of sync, you might try lying about your longitude by 2 degrees. Ie you said you were at 121W, which I assume you entered into USALS. You might experiment by subtracting 2 degrees and entering 119. This will make your dish move 2 degrees more to get to any sat. I'm sure it will work to get you some channels on IA5 and G3c, and it may work across the arc if you're just out of sync, however if you are out of alignment, it won't work across the arc, and you'll have to go back to basics to get the thing aligned.
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[Doofuss]

Went to river and tried out an electric fuel pump adapted to my old merc 115 it dials in so nice but drops out at WOT. Thought it might be effecting power to new aftermarket ignition, came home setup pump through relay, went back to river and still dropping out above 5kRPM, came home removed pump, going back to auto parts and get the next bigger pump.

stuck two spotted bass while jigging for king salmon 100 freekin degrees out there


Meanwhile I, or my 90 yo father have been doing a few single sat scans and screwing around with it a bit. I just deleted all saved crap, setup a buttloat of sats in a autoscan for FTP an it is doing it's thing. When it finishes and askes me to save WHAT DO I DO???

say yes, but then what button steps do I use next to find the list? And how many can it hold?

[Doofuss]

I managed to get it to work although it apparently caught less channels than I thought it might. (I'll start a new thread on that)

It would appear that I had hurried it and not allowed it to digest the save before pressing another button, hence losing the "save".

What is the processor an old 100mhz 16ram pentium?

[rainman]

it is still better to program 1 sat at a time using Power Scan.