BSC621-2 and set up on FTA receivers

champi78 · #1 (**permalink**) 03-28-2007, 11:54 PM

what settings are you guys using to get signal on the c-band satellites, with the [FONT='Calibri','sans-serif']BSC621-2 lnbf . I am just running one cable from the 6 ft dish to the receiver (Sonicview 4000) but I cant lock signal or see any response. Does this lnbf ([FONT='Calibri','sans-serif']BSC621-2 ) needs to be set as universal, single or any other ?

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rainman · #2 (**permalink**) 03-29-2007, 06:45 AM

on the c band side it shoukd be set to 5150 lo freq.

elgemcdlf · #3 (**permalink**) 03-29-2007, 09:20 AM

The lnbf you refer to has multiple ways of setting up. Are you intending on using only the C Band capabilities? If using both C and Ku are you planning on using the internal DiSEqC switch? The LO settings should be 5150 for C Band and UNI or 10600 for Ku. If your receiver has the ability to set both LO's for a UNI lnbf it would be set to 9750 for low and 10600 for high. If you are using the internal switch I do not remember which port is C and which is Ku. I use mine only for C Band with the plate installed for circular reception.

champi78 · #4 (**permalink**) 03-29-2007, 11:10 PM

Hey guys, I tried to lock satellites on band c (satmex6, galaxy10) but I couldnt lock them. Using my sonicview 4000 and coolsat 6000, I was just able to get signal up to 80 but I couldnt raise the quality bar at all, it always marked 0. I am using the 6 ft fortec dish and the BSC621-2 lnbf.

I used the following settings on the receivers

lnb type = single
Lnb Frequency = 5150
22khz = off
Diseqc = port 1 (I also tried port 2 and off)

What am I doing wrong ?

rainman · #5 (**permalink**) 03-30-2007, 06:23 AM

those sats are a little hard to lock with a 6 ft dish try G4(G16) alot of people locking that sat with a 6 footer.

elgemcdlf · #6 (**permalink**) 03-30-2007, 07:24 AM

Let's slow down a bit. Is your dish setup as a staionary or motorized dish? Skew is very important, the farther away you get from center (true south) the more important it becomes. If it is wrong it can cause the situation you describe. Second on my list would be as Rainman has stated. 6' really is small for C Band. I would be hunting for the sats the guys with 4' dishes are getting first. That way at least you know it is sat being hit with a small dish and you get a feel for aligning the dish. Still need to know how you have the lnbf set up. C only/C & Ku?

champi78 · #7 (**permalink**) 03-31-2007, 01:07 AM

I am using the stationary dish and I conected coax jumper to get the C or KU channels that might be on the satellites. I'll try to get the G4 satellite tomorrow.

elgemcdlf · #8 (**permalink**) 03-31-2007, 05:44 AM

What port do the docs say is C and what port is Ku? You will need your receiver set accordingly. You will also need to set skew accordingly.

champi78 · #9 (**permalink**) 03-31-2007, 03:53 PM

I assigned port 1 on the Diseqc to the band c satellites and port 2 to the Ku satellites, I am still trying but I have not had good luck, I am thinking what could be the chances that the lbnf I have were not compatible with the Sonicview receiver because I have done almost everything and I cant get quality on my receiver.

elgemcdlf · #10 (**permalink**) 04-01-2007, 05:56 PM

Is that what the docs for the lnbf say as far as DiSEqC goes? Did you have signal prior to putting this lnbf on? Are you certain you have it skewed properly?

champi78 · #11 (**permalink**) 04-02-2007, 01:01 AM

yes, that is what the instructions says and I had never received band c satellites, regarding to the skewed properly I am not sure because the 1.8 (6ft) dish doesnt have number marks, is not graduated to see the grades I want (I dont know how to measure or calculate this to mark on the dish), but the dish comes with the base and I am almost thinking giving up on getting these satellites. I am located in Arizona zip code 85607.

elgemcdlf · #12 (**permalink**) 04-02-2007, 06:43 AM

Ok if you are in AZ I would probably be hunting for 123 for C Band. I would also start by taking the jumper off and running from Ku only. Locate the sat that way. If memory server me correct 0 for that lnbf is somewhere around the flat portion at 4 o'clock as you are looking at the face of teh dish. If you go to Sadoun Satellite Sales ( 1-888-519-9595 ) there is a very good area devoted to stationary installs. There you should be able to calculate your skew angle. Simply rotate the lnbf in the direction stated rounghly the correct degrees stated.

Now at least you should be close enough to find the sat. Do not adjust skew again until you locate the sat. You are probably not going to find 123 (G10R) you are most likely going to find 121 first which is an Echo bird. It is much stronger that G10R. You need to be set on an active transponder. Once you locate a sat scan it in and compare stations with LyngSat - Lyngemark Satellite to find out where you are.

Patience is the key along with slow movement. You also need to have a tv and the receiver out at the dish. Once you lock G10R (123) now peak your dish. East to west and then with dish elevation and finally go back to the skew to get your peak signal. At this point you can replace the jumper and setup your receiver for both C and Ku from the lnbf. See if you can get any C Band now. C Band will be far more difficult to find with a 1.8m dish than Ku will be.

wejones · #13 (**permalink**) 04-02-2007, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by champi78

.... regarding to the skewed properly I am not sure because the 1.8 (6ft) dish doesnt have number marks, is not graduated to see the grades I want (I dont know how to measure or calculate this to mark on the dish), ....

The skew isn't a function of the dish, it's just a function of the orientation of the lnbf vs vertical or horizontal. Hopefully the lnbf came with instructions that show what orientation relates to vertical or horizontal, when facing south, then, using the web page Steve referred to orient the lnbf to give the proper angle. If you want to be exact, you can use an inclinometer, even a home made one with a protractor/string, but I've never found it to be that critical, unless there is a similar SR signal on the other polarity that is interferring. I usually just set it by eye approximately, and it is good enough. The only time I have had trouble with skew has been with a few DCII signals. Since they have a few common SR values, like 19510, you might happen to find the exact SR on the opposite polarity, so skew becomes more important.

champi78 · #14 (**permalink**) 04-08-2007, 12:30 AM

I was finally able to put my dish and LNBF to work, by the first time I was able to lock a satellite and get Ku channels on satellie 121, I will try more satellites tomorrow including c band satellites. By the way what I did was to put the 6 ft fortec dish above a 5ft table and it was very easy to get signal from this point

I believe I had problems because I wanted to get signal with my dish on the ground like it is on the pictures that show the dish on Sadoun.com, but on my location worked having the dish 5ft above the ground.

By the way, how can I add a motor to the 6ft fortec dish ?, I saw a post 2 weeks ago in wich a member of this forum was going to motorize this kind of dishes.