KU and C-Band at the same time??

terencehunt2003 · #1 (**permalink**) 11-27-2006, 05:40 PM

Just got my system going. And it is the coolest thing. I picked up alot of KU channels on a few satellites. But of course, I wanted more. I was looking at Lyngsat and noticed alot more channels that are in the C-Band. Is there a way that I can take that 229 Package from Sadoun and make it recieve both KU and C-Band channels?? Maybe change the LNBF?? Or would I have to change the dish also?? Am I being too greedy?? Thanks Guys!

Sadoun · #2 (**permalink**) 11-27-2006, 07:14 PM

Check LNBF #1 here: http://sadoun.com/Sat/Order/LNBFS/C-Band-LNBF.htm

Which dish size you have? Some are successful pulling c/KU band signal using a 120cm offset dish.

rainman · #3 (**permalink**) 11-28-2006, 06:48 AM

as Sadoun said some has got some c band signal with the 1.2 meter dish but I would recommend a 6 ft dish or larger for c band.

terencehunt2003 · #4 (**permalink**) 11-28-2006, 12:22 PM

I have the 31 inch dish. So from my understanding, I would have to get a bigger dish along with the LNBF. Hmmm.... I may have to ponder on that. Just wish they had kind of great channels on KU as they do on C. But, I am not complaining one bit because it is still awesome.. Thanks, for the replies!

elgemcdlf · #5 (**permalink**) 11-28-2006, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by terencehunt2003

I have the 31 inch dish. So from my understanding, I would have to get a bigger dish along with the LNBF. Hmmm.... I may have to ponder on that. Just wish they had kind of great channels on KU as they do on C. But, I am not complaining one bit because it is still awesome.. Thanks, for the replies!

First thing I would do is up your present dish to a 36". The difference is considerable.

Reinhold · #6 (**permalink**) 12-11-2006, 07:32 AM

Played around last week with my 31" dish and quad LNB (not C band) and pulled in quite a few C band stations.Mostly they are douplicates of KU,but I was amazed I got anything with my totally wrong equipment.
Reinhold.

wejones · #7 (**permalink**) 12-11-2006, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Reinhold

Played around last week with my 31" dish and quad LNB (not C band) and pulled in quite a few C band stations.Mostly they are douplicates of KU,but I was amazed I got anything with my totally wrong equipment.
Reinhold.

You are NOT receiving C-band. You cannot receive C-band unless you have a C-band LNB. The thing is, that a C-band LNB converts 3700-4200 MHz, and sends it to your receiver in the 950-1450 band. Your Ku LNB sends the 11700-12200 (or different band for universal lnbfs) band down on the same 950-1450 band. So your receiver can't tell the difference between a C-band signal and a Ku signal. When you set your receiver to either C or Ku, it is just setting the calculation for the LO freq, but it is still looking for the signals in the same 950-1450 MHz band.
So the reason you are getting duplicates is because they are the same Ku signals.

Sorry. I know you were probably happy to be getting C-band, but that's not the case.

glen4cindy · #8 (**permalink**) 12-14-2006, 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by elgemcdlf

First thing I would do is up your present dish to a 36". The difference is considerable.

Would the new DirecTv HD dish work for this? It is an oblong one instead of round like my 31"?

elgemcdlf · #9 (**permalink**) 12-14-2006, 07:41 AM

All comes down to surface area of the dish.

pmb1010 · #10 (**permalink**) 12-14-2006, 08:44 AM

I have the 120cm dish and the C/Ku dual LNB.

Although it's possible to receive some of the stronger C band signals, even with this 4 footer, some of the C band stuff just doesnt come in. THere are some network feeds that don't give a peep on this. The dish simply isn't big enough.

So be advised although it works this way, it's a compromise and should be considered a hobby solution for C band.

glen4cindy · #11 (**permalink**) 12-15-2006, 07:08 PM

So, I suppose a 16' would do better?

I'll be lucky to get permission for a 3 to 4 foot! On a serious note, I guess even with the proper LNB, I would not even get a hair from my 80cm, right?

elgemcdlf · #12 (**permalink**) 12-15-2006, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by glen4cindy

So, I suppose a 16' would do better?

I'll be lucky to get permission for a 3 to 4 foot! On a serious note, I guess even with the proper LNB, I would not even get a hair from my 80cm, right?

If you reside in the US you do not need permission for anything 1m or less. So a 36" dish does not require permission. If you are a renter it would probably keep good relations to discuss it first though

I would not imagine you getting any C band on a 80cm. I was totally shocked anyone was getting anything on a 4' dish but as those that play have stated it is very limited.

pmb1010 · #13 (**permalink**) 12-15-2006, 10:47 PM

I dont think I'd call it "very limited".
I'm limited by what sats I have visablility to with my 4 footer, and only have Fortec for C-band DVB and Analog receiver, so no DCII for me.

I did post a while back what I could get on C band with the 120cm dish, I cant find it right now. I went over to Lyngsat and looked thru the C band stuff and from memory, on C band I get:

AMC 6 - PA cable network
AMC 3 - TVU and University network
G11- CW East/West/Central, EWTN (looks like some new stuff I havent seen on DVB and scanned for yet)
IA6- TenMax,TenXtasy (scrambled but could get them if I paid)

Independent Film Channel - I actually subcribe to that to activate my VCII decoder for $6/year. Comes in pretty good.
WE channel was in the clear last week, looked really good too.

G16 - sheperds channel, Buena Vista feeds, Fox, ABC feeds
AMC4- golden eagle broadcasting, Gods learning channel
AnikF1- Canada weather channel

There are a few more feeds in there that are come and go, so I dont remember what sat those are on. All of these are actually workable, watchable channels, analog and digital.

There's a lot of C band stuff more west than I can see. Neighbor 2 doors down has a BMF tree right in my way. I was hoping the fluke snow storm we had in October would have wiped it out (it's well over 70ft up) but I didnt get lucky in that regard.

glen4cindy · #14 (**permalink**) 12-16-2006, 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by elgemcdlf

If you reside in the US you do not need permission for anything 1m or less. So a 36" dish does not require permission. If you are a renter it would probably keep good relations to discuss it first though

I would not imagine you getting any C band on a 80cm. I was totally shocked anyone was getting anything on a 4' dish but as those that play have stated it is very limited.

The "permission" I was speaking of is that of my wife!

rainman · #15 (**permalink**) 12-16-2006, 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by pmb1010

Independent Film Channel - I actually subcribe to that to activate my VCII decoder for $6/year. Comes in pretty good.
WE channel was in the clear last week, looked really good too.

There's a lot of C band stuff more west than I can see. Neighbor 2 doors down has a BMF tree right in my way. I was hoping the fluke snow storm we had in October would have wiped it out (it's well over 70ft up) but I didnt get lucky in that regard.

the ifc and we channels have gone digital now. a electric chain saw don't make much noise on a dark night.LOL

elgemcdlf · #16 (**permalink**) 12-16-2006, 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by pmb1010

I dont think I'd call it "very limited".
I'm limited by what sats I have visablility to with my 4 footer, and only have Fortec for C-band DVB and Analog receiver, so no DCII for me.

I did post a while back what I could get on C band with the 120cm dish, I cant find it right now. I went over to Lyngsat and looked thru the C band stuff and from memory, on C band I get:

AMC 6 - PA cable network
AMC 3 - TVU and University network
G11- CW East/West/Central, EWTN (looks like some new stuff I havent seen on DVB and scanned for yet)
IA6- TenMax,TenXtasy (scrambled but could get them if I paid)

Independent Film Channel - I actually subcribe to that to activate my VCII decoder for $6/year. Comes in pretty good.
WE channel was in the clear last week, looked really good too.

G16 - sheperds channel, Buena Vista feeds, Fox, ABC feeds
AMC4- golden eagle broadcasting, Gods learning channel
AnikF1- Canada weather channel

There are a few more feeds in there that are come and go, so I dont remember what sat those are on. All of these are actually workable, watchable channels, analog and digital.

There's a lot of C band stuff more west than I can see. Neighbor 2 doors down has a BMF tree right in my way. I was hoping the fluke snow storm we had in October would have wiped it out (it's well over 70ft up) but I didnt get lucky in that regard.

My DSR922 shows something like 4500-5000 available channels. What you list is what I would call very limited