SNH031 tring for nasa channel

[rleehamn]

Hey guys, I'm still around.

So far everythings been cool. Just wish there was more out there to try for.

Can anyone tell me if my snh031 will pick up the nasa channel from dish?
I seen where it says that the snh031quad will, so I don't see why the single won't.

I've tried scanning for it and I all I get is a handful of lock channels.
So I've tried by turning the option for usual off and set the lnb type to 11250 for dish and connected my cable to a dual lnb and held it in front of my snho31 and did a scan and picked up nasa. So I'm on the correct bird. I tried with the snh031 set at 11250 and nothing comes up on scan!

Thanks,

hope everybody still enjoying their fta..

[rainman]

I think the snh-031 is a universal lnb to get nasa you would need a circular lnb like the qph-031 which does linear and circular.

[wejones]

Originally Posted by rleehamn

Hey guys, I'm still around.

So far everythings been cool. Just wish there was more out there to try for.

Can anyone tell me if my snh031 will pick up the nasa channel from dish?
I seen where it says that the snh031quad will, so I don't see why the single won't.

I've tried scanning for it and I all I get is a handful of lock channels.
So I've tried by turning the option for usual off and set the lnb type to 11250 for dish and connected my cable to a dual lnb and held it in front of my snho31 and did a scan and picked up nasa. So I'm on the correct bird. I tried with the snh031 set at 11250 and nothing comes up on scan!

Thanks,

hope everybody still enjoying their fta..

Yet another example of people trying to change the LO freq to match a satellite. THe LO freq should always be set at what the specs for the LNBF are, and has nothing to do with what satellite you are trying to watch.

Re the "snh031quad", are you sure that you aren't talking about the QPH031 ? Ie that lnbf does both linear and circular. Re picking up NASA with a linear lnbf, yes it can be done, but it's a bit iffy. I've done it lots of times, but sometimes it comes in well and other times it doesn't. Using a linear lnbf on a circular signal works, but you lose about 50% of your signal strength, plus the linear polarization can't filter out the Left hand polarization signals that might interfere. It is much easier to tune circular polarization signals if you have a polarotor system that allows you to fine tune the polarization, because with a linear lnbf, there is often a particular linear polarization that works best for Right and another linear polarization that works best for Left polarization. But still, on the "pure" circular sats like this, you generally won't be able to pick up all the transponders with a linear lnbf, but you can pick up some of them. With the dual purpose circular sats, like AMC16, I can pick up every transponder with a linear lnbf, if I fine tune the polarity.

One thing I didn't understand in your post is where you said that you turned the "option for usual off" . I couldn't figure this one out.

[rleehamn]

Yeah I meant the QPH031. It was late, I couldn't even spell trying..

When I said I turned off usuals, I meant I selected "no" no usuals, no diseqc. In other words the Positioner is set to none.

------Yet another example of people trying to change the LO freq to match a satellite. THe LO freq should always be set at what the specs for the LNBF are, and has nothing to do with what satellite you are trying to watch.

Who said I was trying to change the freq.

I said when I select for example, just a twin lnbf it shows: Legacy Twin-2(11250) So I figure that the lnbf needs to be within that (11250) range. No I did not even try to change the freq to 11250. I've been installing direcway-hugesnet since 2001. Anyhow I was trying to select an lnbf that would be within the 11250 coverage range just to see if my lnbf would work, which now I know it won't.

So I need a qph-031

thanks rainman and wejones

[wejones]

Originally Posted by rleehamn

Yeah I meant the QPH031. It was late, I couldn't even spell trying..

When I said I turned off usuals, I meant I selected "no" no usuals, no diseqc. In other words the Positioner is set to none.

------Yet another example of people trying to change the LO freq to match a satellite. THe LO freq should always be set at what the specs for the LNBF are, and has nothing to do with what satellite you are trying to watch.

Who said I was trying to change the freq.

I said when I select for example, just a twin lnbf it shows: Legacy Twin-2(11250) So I figure that the lnbf needs to be within that (11250) range. No I did not even try to change the freq to 11250. I've been installing direcway-hugesnet since 2001. Anyhow I was trying to select an lnbf that would be within the 11250 coverage range just to see if my lnbf would work, which now I know it won't.

So I need a qph-031

thanks rainman and wejones

I still read what you said the same way. What I was trying to say is that you said you have an SNH031 lnbf. This lnbf is a universal with LO freqs of 9.750 & 10.600 GHz. Your receiver should always be set for that type LNBF, no matter what sat you're trying to receive. When you switch to a circular DBS lnbf, then it is correct to switch the settings to 11250 because that is the LO freq of those lnbfs, but you said that you tried changing the lnbf setting on the receiver to 11250 mhz when using the SNH031, which isn't correct, as you found out.

Even in this message, you said that you thought that "the lnbf needs to be within that (11250) range", which tells me that you were thinking that you need to set the lnb type to match the satellite rather than to match the lnbf. I may be interpreting what you said wrong,if so, I'm sorry, but that's why I responded that way, and it still seems to read that way.

[rleehamn]

I was trying to match the lnb; but then I realize my lnb wasn't in that range. Somehow when I bought the lnb I had it in my head that I got the one that would cover the most out of what I've selected. But when I went out and read the range off the lnb, I found out that I was dead wrong.

If I would of look at the lnb first to see if it would have cover 11250 first then I would of known what was going on. Like I said I had it in my head that the lnb I got would work.

Thanks

[wejones]

Originally Posted by rleehamn

I was trying to match the lnb; but then I realize my lnb wasn't in that range. Somehow when I bought the lnb I had it in my head that I got the one that would cover the most out of what I've selected. But when I went out and read the range off the lnb, I found out that I was dead wrong.

If I would of look at the lnb first to see if it would have cover 11250 first then I would of known what was going on. Like I said I had it in my head that the lnb I got would work.

Thanks

It's not really the "range" of the LNB that is the issue. Your lnbf covers the frequency just fine. The frequencies that you are trying to "cover" are the 12200 to 12700 band, and the range of your lnbf is 10.7 - 12.75 GHz, so the range of the lnbf isn't an issue. The 11250 is not something you're trying to "cover" with the LNBF, the 11250 is just one of several local oscillator freqs used by different LNBFs, and you need to match your receiver settings to these values.

Anyway, the reason that you are having problems picking up NASA is NOT due to range, but it's due to the fact that you have a linear polarization lnbf rather than a circular polarization.

It is still possible that you might be able to tune this channel if you mess with the polarization. I'm not sure what kind of "scan" you did, ie a transponder scan, a satellite scan or a blind scan, but I'm guessing that you did a satellite scan, because a blind scan would have come up with some scrambled channels rather than nothing as you indicated. Anyway, I would recommend that you do a transponder scan using the 12370 frequency. However I would first create a new 12370 transponder which has the opposite polarity from that listed in your transponder list for that satellite. Ie if your transponder list has a 12370 R, create a 12370 L . Then do a transponder scan on both these transponders. There is a possibility that if you previously did a satellite scan, which scanned 12370 R, that perhaps 12370 L might work. If this doesn't work, you can still possibly get the channel by turning your lnbf a bit in it's mount, but this would mean you'd be degrading all your other channels, so you probably won't want to do that.
I've been able to tune the NASA channel with a linear lnbf in the past, but not always. It seems to depend on what interferrence you get from other transponders on the sat. THe best way to get that channel is to pick up a used DTV dish (I've picked up several of these free), and aim this at the 119 sat.

[elgemcdlf]

Originally Posted by wejones

THe best way to get that channel is to pick up a used DTV dish (I've picked up several of these free), and aim this at the 119 sat.

Another way is C Band. I have 4 channels from NASA on the C Band side of life.

[wejones]

Originally Posted by elgemcdlf

Another way is C Band. I have 4 channels from NASA on the C Band side of life.

Not to get "that" Dishnet channel. :-)

But yes, the REAL NASA-TV is on C-band. That's one of the reasons I finally decided to cut down a pine tree in my yard. When the AMC6 C-band feed started, I was getting a fairly good signal, but over the months, it started fading away, and evenually went away. Our pine trees grew about 4 or 5 feet this year. Anyway, I finally got fed up, and cut one of them down, and POP, back came NASA-TV. :-) Unfortunately, I'd have to cut down about 30 big trees to regain the 1/3 of my arc that I've lost over the past few years. I guess thats what happens when you live in the woods.

[elgemcdlf]

I have one now blocking my view of 45. I thought about cutting it down but decided to plant another dish instead. I like my trees

[rleehamn]

I have just one tree in my front yard so I had to put my dish about 70 ft out. I finally got my trench dug, talk about pain being close to a river.

[wejones]

Originally Posted by rleehamn

I have just one tree in my front yard so I had to put my dish about 70 ft out. I finally got my trench dug, talk about pain being close to a river.

I'm curious what you're referring to here? Intuitively I would have thought that near a river the soil would be more sediment, whereas on top of hills, etc, you often run into rock. Where I am now, there are places where it is solid bedrock for hundreds of feet. My back yard isn't that bad, ie not bedrock, but there are stones of all sizes that I had to zig-zag between. Just curious what you meant by the river factor? Or perhaps it depends on if you are in a flood plane (sediment) or along a river with a steep slope (rocks)? Just curious.
When I first put my dish in here, I did it by hand, and didn't go deep enough, but after that I got a small backhoe for my tractor, and the second time I dug it deeper and put in plastic conduit. One thing, if you use conduit or PVC or something, I think it's important to allow drainage so it doesn't fill with water. That happened on my first dish where I used to live, and the coax was in water 360days/year, and I think the water eventually got into the cable.

[briand]

Bill --

How did you manage to dry out the cable for the other 5 days a year?

[wejones]

Originally Posted by briand

Bill --

How did you manage to dry out the cable for the other 5 days a year?

Perhaps that's why the years seem to be going by faster and faster?
There are still 91.25 degrees in a right angle, right?

I'm trying to figure out what could have possibly been going through my mind when I typed that, but I don't have a clue. Most likely because I used to work for the Army, and they did everything different.

[elgemcdlf]

I capped my PVC tops with 180's. So the cable actually comes out running towards the ground. This keeps the rain out. It then (the cable) loops up to the dish. This also naturally creates a rain drip in the coax. Although I did not you could always just drill a bunch of holes in the bottom of the PVC.

[wejones]

One thing I found though is up here they sell a gray plasti