need info on lnb's

[Larry Jipson]

I bought a system from starlite with a 76 cm winegard dish and a .5 lnb I live in eastern Maine( as you may have noticed all internet stores look much the same til you buy) well I've spent several days trying to find G10R . would like to know if I bought junk for a reciever a to small dish or if a lower noise level LNB would help or should I just keep trying. I also tried installing a 4' primestar dish with no results does intelsat 7 hide G10R when using the meter the only thing I get quality on is int sat 7 . once I got g13 on a clear day

[elgemcdlf]

Is this a motorized system? Start by going to www.sadoun.com and folloowing links to installation help then the appropriate section for your system (motorized or nonmotorized). 121 is an Echo bird so it is far stronger than 123 when trying to pick up signal. With that said 121 is also a bit higher in the sky and a bit east. So if you ahve 121 you need to move 2 degrees to the west and down a hair. If you are motorized all bets are off! You need to start back from square one with zeroing in on your true south sat.

Steve

[wejones]

Originally Posted by Larry Jipson

I bought a system from starlite with a 76 cm winegard dish and a .5 lnb I live in eastern Maine( as you may have noticed all internet stores look much the same til you buy) well I've spent several days trying to find G10R . would like to know if I bought junk for a reciever a to small dish or if a lower noise level LNB would help or should I just keep trying. I also tried installing a 4' primestar dish with no results does intelsat 7 hide G10R when using the meter the only thing I get quality on is int sat 7 . once I got g13 on a clear day

In addition to the other response, you might say what specific hardware you have, and what settings you are using, and what you are doing to try to find the satellites. There should be nothing wrong with a ".5 lnb", however that doesn't say anything about what type lnb it is, ie whether it is a circular, a standard linear or universal linear. The dish is a bit on the small size, but should work. You didn't say what receiver you are using. And you don't say what transponder you are trying to lock, and what method you are using to try to lock it (ie some people make the mistake of trying to do power (blind) scans before locating the sat, and other people try to lock on transponders that aren't currently active.) . Ie you need to tell us more about what you have and what you are trying to do.

[Larry Jipson]

I didn't "like a fool" get my equipment from sadoun. I have a skylite sky 222 reciever with the 76cm winegard dish.I have no idea what kind of lnb I have It doesn't say on the box It is a sky L002. IF11.70~12.75GHz OF 950~2000 MHz Lo 10.75GHz nois fig 0.5 db single KU band LNBF Looks like a direct tv.
I started by just searching the sky blindly in the approx azmus and elev with no luck I called the guy I bought it from about a meter and he said I needed a $300.00 meter and a cheap one was not much good .I bought one from sadoun for $29.00 spent another day or more searching .then I tryed changing to a primestar 4' dish much easyer to adjust but didn't get G10r or anything else . I now search by setting the elevation somewhere then turning the dish til the meter is at it higest reading with the lowest db gain .I then move elevation a little and turn the dish alittle to get a high reading. all the time the wife is in the house watching the quality bar I hope.I set G10R to trans 11732/h/15450/3/4 lnb freq to 10750 22 KHz on 0/12 v on DISeqc disabled positioner disabled FTA only YES what kind of lnb do I need for G10r also this is a stationary dish

[rainman]

give us your zip code so we can check your angles and azimuth.

[Larry Jipson]

my zip code is 04493 does it sound like I'm doing it right It's just keep trying til I get it right

[rainman]

your zip did not come up in my search do you have your latitude and longitude. this will help us determine your initial setup so you can get your system up and running.

[elgemcdlf]

Ok I would start by saying sounds like a standard linear lnb. Setting would be 10750. Next got for 11800 on G10R. May not have the channels you are looking for but a decently enough solid signal. You can check www.lyngsat.com for the total transponder info. You are attacking the problem decently but you need to skew your lnb for the particular sat you are trying to receive providing you are a fixed dish.

If you are a motorized system all bets are off. Everything is handled differently. Motorized?

[wejones]

Originally Posted by Larry Jipson

I didn't "like a fool" get my equipment from sadoun. I have a skylite sky 222 reciever with the 76cm winegard dish.I have no idea what kind of lnb I have It doesn't say on the box It is a sky L002. IF11.70~12.75GHz OF 950~2000 MHz Lo 10.75GHz nois fig 0.5 db single KU band LNBF Looks like a direct tv.
I started by just searching the sky blindly in the approx azmus and elev with no luck I called the guy I bought it from about a meter and he said I needed a $300.00 meter and a cheap one was not much good .I bought one from sadoun for $29.00 spent another day or more searching .then I tryed changing to a primestar 4' dish much easyer to adjust but didn't get G10r or anything else . I now search by setting the elevation somewhere then turning the dish til the meter is at it higest reading with the lowest db gain .I then move elevation a little and turn the dish alittle to get a high reading. all the time the wife is in the house watching the quality bar I hope.I set G10R to trans 11732/h/15450/3/4 lnb freq to 10750 22 KHz on 0/12 v on DISeqc disabled positioner disabled FTA only YES what kind of lnb do I need for G10r also this is a stationary dish

First, yes, as you said in later post, I think you just need to keep trying.
I'm not familiar with the receiver you have, but I see someone selling a bunch of them on Ebay, and it looks like it should work, provided you get it set up right, although it does lack AC3 audio and doesn't seem to have blind search. But for the channels on G10r, it should be fine.
The LNB specs you quote sound like a standard linear (not like a DirecTV), which should be fine for G10r. As you said you did, you need to set the LO freq in your receiver to 10750. I don't think that you should need the 22KHz turned on, since you didn't mention having a switch of any kind, but that shouldn't matter. Most standard lnbfs switch between H and V polarization by switching voltage between 13 and 18V, but some don't. A Primestar lnbf I once used didn't switch polarity at all, and DTV and Dishnet lnbfs have complicated switching. But we can probably assume that yours is standard 13/18 switching. Since your dish is stationary though, make sure that you have the lnbf rotated to the proper angle for your longitude. The installation page on the Sadoun site has a good description of this.
HOWEVER..... if you are looking for G10r, the transponder specs you mention are not correct. look at Lyngsat for G10r, :
http://www.lyngsat.com/g10r.html
There is an 11733 transponder but the SR is not 15450 as you indicate, plus I'm not confident that the SR listed in Lyngsat is accurate either. I would recommend trying the transponder at 11800 with SR =26657. Many people seem to have problems with the 11720 transponder, but most people get the 11800 signal strong. After you tune in on that one, you should be able to then find the other ones. The primestar dish should give you a much stronger signal, however it will require being even more accurate in your aim. But after you find the signal, you may need to experiment with the focal length of the LNB a bit, since it may not be shaped quite the same as the lnb you have.
Anyway, keep trying. I think you should be able to get a strong signal with the Primestar dish, and once you get it figured out, you might be able to hook up the smaller dish aimed at another sat.

[wejones]

Originally Posted by rainman

your zip did not come up in my search do you have you latitude and longitude. this will help us determine your initial setup so you can get your system up and running.

It looks like he's in West Enfield, approx 45d 15m 68d 39m .

If you plug that into http://www.sadoun.com/Sat/Installati...Calculator.htm

it seems to come up with about
Azim=243 Elev=15.9 lnbf angle=38.8

Also, up here in Maine, there is a pretty sizeable magnetic deviation. It's about 17 deg where I am, and probably more like 19 or 20 deg over there. So you'll probably have to use a magnetic heading of around 262-263 or so.
G10r will be fairly low in the sky for an offset dish. Since it's elevation is even less than the offset angle, it may seem like it's aiming at the ground. But you should be able to get a good signal. G10 comes in very strong for me, particularly on C-band, but I've never tried it with an offset dish.

[rainman]

thanks wejones that was the info i was going to give him.