Fortec Ultra + Fortec 90cm + HH90 = ?

habib · #1 (**permalink**) 07-19-2005, 03:14 AM

I recently received a Fortec Ultra with a Fortec 90 cm dish and an HH90 motor. For the most part I'm quite happy with the combination, though the installation did not go perfectly. After all of the calculations, I had to set the 90 cm. dish at 10 degrees below the figure that the Sadoun website specified for my location. This was not a big problem, but it does indicate that we should follow the Sadoun directions when it comes to keeping those bolts loosened so we can make corrections during the installation process. I don't view this problem as a big deal, though it does rather beg the question of where the error is in the installation calculations. Still, the final result is that the unit tracks the arc nicely, which is the goal in the end.

Additionally, the power search feature is not doing what it is supposed to (I think). In power searching IA6 the unit states that it has found 26 signals, then proceeds to search through the same frequency range continually without going to the next frequency range (after 30 minutes of searching and researching the same freq range I exited the process). It appeared that it was not doing what it was supposed to by not incrimenting to the next freq range. Also, it never got beyond 9 or 10 signals during this search, before going into its "do loop".

Is this power search performing as it should? I have a feeling that it is not, and I would be interested to know whether I'm being too impatient or if there is some software or hardware problem I'm experiencing.

Does anyone have a comment on this?

Regards from Colorado!

vj9999 · #2 (**permalink**) 07-19-2005, 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by habib

Additionally, the power search feature is not doing what it is supposed to (I think). In power searching IA6 the unit states that it has found 26 signals, then proceeds to search through the same frequency range continually without going to the next frequency range (after 30 minutes of searching and researching the same freq range I exited the process). It appeared that it was not doing what it was supposed to by not incrimenting to the next freq range. Also, it never got beyond 9 or 10 signals during this search, before going into its "do loop".

Is this power search performing as it should? I have a feeling that it is not, and I would be interested to know whether I'm being too impatient or if there is some software or hardware problem I'm experiencing.

Does anyone have a comment on this?

Regards from Colorado!

This is a mix between a strange signal on IA6 and the receiver not acting properly with it. Basically that signal doesn't have alot of parametersthat all othr signals have. When Fortec tries to scan it, it thinks that more information is coming and it is waithing for it because it cannot lock in on the signal. Natural thing would be just to skip it and go to next one. I suggested awhile ago on hte same signal that it would be good to havelike a skii to next button that will skip to the next frquency if you are stuck on one for a while.

The way I usually go around it, since this happens after it has finishd scanning for signal and when it is trying to find channels wihting that signel, when you cancel out all the transponders it finds are still in the transponder list. Go to edit tp/satellite menu and delete that tranponder. Then go back and do a regular scan (not power scan).

Luckily this is the only signal I can think of that is causing it act this way. It will take a little while when scaning transponders that have data on them, but it does alright in most other cases.

wejones · #3 (**permalink**) 07-19-2005, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by vj9999

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Originally Posted by habib

Additionally, the power search feature is not doing what it is supposed to (I think). In power searching IA6 the unit states that it has found 26 signals, then proceeds to search through the same frequency range continually without going to the next frequency range (after 30 minutes of searching and researching the same freq range I exited the process). It appeared that it was not doing what it was supposed to by not incrimenting to the next freq range. Also, it never got beyond 9 or 10 signals during this search, before going into its "do loop".

Is this power search performing as it should? I have a feeling that it is not, and I would be interested to know whether I'm being too impatient or if there is some software or hardware problem I'm experiencing.

Does anyone have a comment on this?

Regards from Colorado!

This is a mix between a strange signal on IA6 and the receiver not acting properly with it. Basically that signal doesn't have alot of parametersthat all othr signals have. When Fortec tries to scan it, it thinks that more information is coming and it is waithing for it because it cannot lock in on the signal. Natural thing would be just to skip it and go to next one. I suggested awhile ago on hte same signal that it would be good to havelike a skii to next button that will skip to the next frquency if you are stuck on one for a while.

The way I usually go around it, since this happens after it has finishd scanning for signal and when it is trying to find channels wihting that signel, when you cancel out all the transponders it finds are still in the transponder list. Go to edit tp/satellite menu and delete that tranponder. Then go back and do a regular scan (not power scan).

Luckily this is the only signal I can think of that is causing it act this way. It will take a little while when scaning transponders that have data on them, but it does alright in most other cases.

VJ..... I'm curious about this. Is this some new signal on T6 that is causing problems, or some signal that pops up occasionally, or something that is always there?
I'm curious because my receiver has never hung up on T6 like the other poster described, however I haven't scanned T6 for several weeks, and the last time I scanned T6, I think I only did one polarity, so it's been a while. Plus I think I only scanned the narrow SRs.
I guess I'll go downstairs, and try scanning T6 to see what's up.

vj9999 · #4 (**permalink**) 07-19-2005, 10:17 AM

It is not always there. I'll try to dig up my post from while back about probles it was giving me. I think it is missing PAT, but it keeps trying to read it forever.

I haven't scanned it in a while too. Since I got 120cm dish I have been only playing with c-band stuff. I haven't been on Ku side in a long time (excpet when I was tuning my dish)

http://www.sadoun.net/viewtopic.php?...ghlight=#11326

wejones · #5 (**permalink**) 07-19-2005, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by vj9999

It is not always there. I'll try to dig up my post from while back about probles it was giving me. I think it is missing PAT, but it keeps trying to read it forever.

Thanks. I'll keep an eye out. I'll probably be scanning this sat more, now that NFL preseason is coming up.
I just tried a T6 scan right now, and had no problems.

wejones · #6 (**permalink**) 08-21-2005, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by vj9999

This is a mix between a strange signal on IA6 and the receiver not acting properly with it. Basically that signal doesn't have alot of parametersthat all othr signals have. When Fortec tries to scan it, it thinks that more information is coming and it is waithing for it because it cannot lock in on the signal. Natural thing would be just to skip it and go to next one. I suggested awhile ago on hte same signal that it would be good to havelike a skii to next button that will skip to the next frquency if you are stuck on one for a while.

The way I usually go around it, since this happens after it has finishd scanning for signal and when it is trying to find channels wihting that signel, when you cancel out all the transponders it finds are still in the transponder list. Go to edit tp/satellite menu and delete that tranponder. Then go back and do a regular scan (not power scan).

VJ... Last night, while searching for an NFL game, I think I came across your mystery signal. I did a power scan that came up with a bunch of transponders, and then it went into it's routine where it was trying to figure out the PIDs to get the channels, and it went about 2/3 of the way though the found transponders then came upon one freq, and just sat there forever.
I was very much in a hurry to watch my football game, so I didn't have time to investigate it, and today, when I went back to look at it, it doesn't seem to be doing the same thing. ( I think the transponder is there, but the ultra isn't hanging on it)
However, I did find an easy way to bypass that freq, if, you are slaving your fta receiver to a big dish. When it would get stuck on this freq, I'd just switch polarities, so it would lose signal, and after about 15 seconds it would give up on that freq, and try the next, at which point I'd switch polarities again, and it would continue with the next freq. I'm guessing that this technique might not be as easy with one of the little dishes, however I guess you could pull the coax or something.
Anyway, interesting.

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wejones · #8 (**permalink**) 08-26-2005, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by vj9999

It is not always there. I'll try to dig up my post from while back about probles it was giving me. I think it is missing PAT, but it keeps trying to read it forever.

I haven't scanned it in a while too. Since I got 120cm dish I have been only playing with c-band stuff. I haven't been on Ku side in a long time (excpet when I was tuning my dish)

http://www.sadoun.net/viewtopic.php?...ghlight=#11326

That mystery signal popped up again today. This time I had time to look at it with TSREADER, and you are right, it is missing the PAT.