Not able to get all channels.

leo · #1 (**permalink**) 07-18-2004, 04:41 PM

Hi,

I have fortec box and I only get 50 channels vs 60+ channels (my friend
gets over 60). I have selected Sat5 and TP is set to 24. The strength
of signal is 85 and Quality is 75. I know there are some other
programming channels which I should be getting. Do I have to
move the LNB or do I have to move the dish location? Also when
I choose TP24, the signal quality is 75 but when I switch to
TP25, the quality is zero. Not sure what my friend uses for TP.

Thanks in advance for your replies.
Leo

bobkat · #2 (**permalink**) 07-18-2004, 04:50 PM

What satellite are you pointing at?

kat

leo · #3 (**permalink**) 07-18-2004, 11:18 PM

hi,

I am using telstar5 (97.00)W and for TP data: it shows
Tp17:globecast. Also I tried TP24. I was wondering if
I should use TP25 .. so I was wondering do i
move the dish itself or LNB to get more channels.

Thanks
Leo

leo · #4 (**permalink**) 07-19-2004, 12:00 AM

Hi ,

Sorry to ask another question but why is that i can see some
TP stations and not others? For example, I can see TP24
but not TP27. To select TP, i go under dish setting and
I select TP 26 for example. Then I search for all channels
and it downloads about 88 channels. When I look at Lynsat
page (http://www.lyngsat.com/ia5.html), i see a lot
more channels and some of the channels I want to see
are on different TP's. So do u think I should move the
dish or LNB? it took me long time to get the signal
so I don;t want to screw it up. I rather move LNB
than the dish. :P
I am jut curious

dtsexpert · #5 (**permalink**) 07-19-2004, 12:45 AM

TP # used in Fortec is meaningless. You need to compare all of TP pre-programed in your receiver against lyngsat. Seems to me that you don't have all the active transponders on T5.
Michael

Quote:

Originally Posted by leo

Hi ,

Sorry to ask another question but why is that i can see some
TP stations and not others? For example, I can see TP24
but not TP27. To select TP, i go under dish setting and
I select TP 26 for example. Then I search for all channels
and it downloads about 88 channels. When I look at Lynsat
page (http://www.lyngsat.com/ia5.html), i see a lot
more channels and some of the channels I want to see
are on different TP's. So do u think I should move the
dish or LNB? it took me long time to get the signal
so I don;t want to screw it up. I rather move LNB
than the dish. :P
I am jut curious

leo · #6 (**permalink**) 07-19-2004, 12:02 PM

Thanks for the info. So does it mean I need to shift the dish
or the lnb? What i mean by that is, I know I am pointing to
97 west because I am getting the signal. However not all channels.
so is LNB position the factor? right now, i am getting 85% signal strength
and quality is 70%.

Thanks again,
Leo

bobkat · #7 (**permalink**) 07-19-2004, 12:33 PM

Hi leo:

Leave the dish alone -- don't realign it. What Michael is telling you is to check the satellite parameters in your receiver to those on www.lyngsat.com ; you must verify 3 things on each transponder -- frequency, polarity and symbol rate. The actual transponder number (like TP17, for example) is, like Michael says, irrelevant. It doesn't matter what transponder number the receiver says it is -- as long as the parameters mentioned above are correct you will pull in channels.

kat

shengrong · #8 (**permalink**) 07-19-2004, 04:59 PM

lyngsat.com seems not list symbol rate though.

dtsexpert · #9 (**permalink**) 07-19-2004, 05:06 PM

Please check lyngsat again before spreading info.
Lyngsat.com does list SR.

Quote:

Originally Posted by shengrong

lyngsat.com seems not list symbol rate though.

bobkat · #10 (**permalink**) 07-19-2004, 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shengrong

lyngsat.com seems not list symbol rate though.

Yeah they do - it's just a little hard to find until you get used to it.

---> http://www.lyngsat.com/ia5.html

Take the first KU band transponder for example, 11,749 MHz;

go 6 columns to the right and at the top of the heading it says "SR - FEC", right under that is the number "7232" -- this is the symbol rate. So in your receiver you would enter "07232" because receivers expect a 5 digit number.

kat

leo · #11 (**permalink**) 07-19-2004, 10:59 PM

First of all thanks for everyone for the replies. You people are great !

I did go under Fortec menu, Install, Channel Search, TP data,
User defined, I entered Freq 12090, entered the 4 digit S/R,
Polarity: Horz, FEC: Auto, but the red bar was at 82% and would not
turn green. Strange ...

I can see programs of 12152 Freq but not 12090. Still don;t think
LNB has something to do with it ? :wink:

leo

dtsexpert · #12 (**permalink**) 07-19-2004, 11:59 PM

SR for freq 12090 is 20000 (5 digits). Make sure you have all correct info.
If you still can't get some transponders on T5, you will need to re-peak your dish. Also check out the skew.
Michael

Quote:

Originally Posted by leo

First of all thanks for everyone for the replies. You people are great !

I did go under Fortec menu, Install, Channel Search, TP data,
User defined, I entered Freq 12090, entered the 4 digit S/R,
Polarity: Horz, FEC: Auto, but the red bar was at 82% and would not
turn green. Strange ...

I can see programs of 12152 Freq but not 12090. Still don;t think
LNB has something to do with it ? :wink:

leo

pictureon · #13 (**permalink**) 07-20-2004, 03:35 AM

Some TP's are for C band and you can not get them with a 30"-32" dish. If you're using fortec star without blind search you need to enter the missing TP's manually. It will help if you expalin what receiver you are using and what channels you are interested in(Arabic, Iranian, Chinese...)
For the new tp 12145 (12146) you can not get a signal if your lnb skew is not correct.