only high level in72%, no quality

[ryu_w@yahoo.com]

could anybody help?

[dtsexpert]

We need more info:
Receiver, dish size, lnbf type, satellite, location.....
Michael

Originally Posted by ryu_w@yahoo.com

could anybody help?

[sparksromeo]

Hi, Sorry, I don't have an answer.. because I'm having the same problem. I even got as high as 80% but big zero on quality. The equipment was delivered as a complete system so I am sure I have all the right stuff. I am wondering if there are any settings on the screen menue that could mess us up. I have the provided LNB (Ku) and about a 36" dish.

[vj9999]

You can have signal strength even if your dish is pointing to the ground. Most likely you are not pointing correctly to the satellite or if you are, you did not select an active transponder on that satellite.

[TOCKCC]

The Ultra can locate all the signals but it does not lock a lot of them. My DMT 1000 can lock many more signals then the Ultra.

Tom

[dtsexpert]

Tom,
Can you clarify what you mean. Did you mean the Ultra can get locked, but you can scan the channels in?
Michael

Originally Posted by TOCKCC

The Ultra can locate all the signals but it does not lock a lot of them. My DMT 1000 can lock many more signals then the Ultra.

Tom

[TOCKCC]

Here's what I've found out . The Ultra can find all the transponders but it does not lock the lower symbol rates very well . I have the DMT slaved to the Ultra and the lower symbol rates the Ultra does not lock I can get just fine when I enter them in the DMT. In other words the Ultra first searches for transponders then it programs in the available channels. It does not program in a lot of the lower symbol rates.

Tom

[Admin]

TOM

This has been discussed in another thread. Your LNBF might be defective check it out. No one else is reporting your problem.

[TOCKCC]

I replaced LNB. Works the same. Apparently the DMT is a lot more sensitive. The DMT is slaved to the Ultra and is getting the same signal.
I thought that was what the people in this thread were talking about.
Tom

[sparksromeo]

We have a Fortec Dish KU band with the Fortec Star LNB Universal Single and we have a clear view to the southwest sky. Following the directions for pointing the dish (no motor drive) hooked up all cables and replaced first set of cables to rule out bad connection we still cannot lock on to a signal. We are pointing to AMC 3 with the full time active TP (patient channel). The dish pointing menu tells us we now have 82% signal strength but it also tells we have 0 % quality. When we turn the monitor on to the channel (TP) after about two minutes it comes back with a no signal message. What else can we try before we bring this equipment back for an exchange or a refund.

:?:

[pmb1010]

Can you find any other satellite?

Did you adjust for magnetic deviation from your generated compass setting from the calculator page?

Is the pole plumb?

The azimuth scale on the dish should be a guideline, not an absolute.

Moving the dish 1/8" will make the quality signal level disappear. It is THAT touchy.

It is said a pine needle will block the signal. You do say you have clear shot, though.

I was in the same position. I cannot get G10R. I can get some of the others but that one eludes me for some reason. I thought I had defective equipment, too but it was just a matter of fooling with the aiming till I got something. It takes a few seconds for the green bar to appear for "quality" so don't be too quick moving the dish. Good luck

[bobkat]

pmb1010 pretty much covered it all. Try to find signal on Galaxy 3C first, its a strong satellite, signal wise. Once you lock onto this satellite then you can experiment and try for AMC3.

Here's a link to what's available on G3C ---> http://www.lyngsat.com/g3c.shtml

999 out of 1,000 times there's nothing wrong with the hardware -- its simply a matter of patience...

:wink:

kat

[beck]

i have the same problem. I get 80% level, no quality reading.
I've installed DSS before and adjusted them with ease.
I can't seem to locate any satellites, I've triple checked all my settings.
I can't even get the quality meter to move.
HELP!!

[wejones]

Of course DSS is easier. Aiming isn't as critical with the smaller dish, the DSS satellites are more powerful, and you don't have to worry about polarity. Also you don't have to worry about not having the proper freq and SR entered into the receiver. The quality meter is pretty much an all or nothing thing, ie it will be zero, then when you get the sat tuned in, it will jump up to more than 50%. Ie you won't see it go 5%--10%---15%, etc . The signal meter is also pretty worthless too. Ie it will always be indicating signal no matter where your dish is aiming, and there will only be 10 or 15% difference between being aimed right or wrong.
But as with many questions here, the more details you give about your hardware setup and parameters entered into the receiver, the easier it is for people to help.

[beck]

ok thanks, here's what I have,

fortec lifetime ultra complete package with
Fortec LNB single KU and 80cm dish.

Chose a pole mount, perfectly level, and view is not obstructed.
my geographical coordinates are as follows,
33.14 117.16 (exactly).

trying for: G10R @ 123 sat.
my adjustments are,
azimuth @ 190.6 - 14.00 (for deviation) = 176.60
elevation: 50.1 (used a protractor)
LNBF tilt @ 8.9

I first went ahead and did a standard setup per

[/url]http://www.sadoun.com/Sat/Products/Fortec-Star/Receivers/LifeTime_Installation.htmhttp://<br /> <br /> I chose the G...<br /> <br />

[pmb1010]

all that sounds ok.
When you are on the "antenna setup" screen, what are the settings shown?

[wejones]

Hopefully someone who is familiar with that specific dish can comment, but to get things started again:


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Originally Posted by beck

ok thanks, here's what I have,

fortec lifetime ultra complete package with
Fortec LNB single KU and 80cm dish.

Chose a pole mount, perfectly level, and view is not obstructed.
my geographical coordinates are as follows,
33.14 117.16 (exactly).

trying for: G10R @ 123 sat.
my adjustments are,
azimuth @ 190.6 - 14.00 (for deviation) = 176.60
elevation: 50.1 (used a protractor)
LNBF tilt @ 8.9

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I assume from the above that your mount is an Az/El and not a polar mount.
Re angles used for azimuth, and elevation, they look OK. I get a magnetic deviation of 13.15 for your location, but that isn't a big enough difference to keep you from finding the sat.
You didn't say where you measured the elevation. I assume that you measured it from a place which took the offset of the lnb into account, since an offset dish isn't elevated the same as a prime focus dish.
Also, I assume you did the lnbf tilt in the right direction.


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Originally Posted by beck

I first went ahead and did a standard setup per

http://www.sadoun.com/Sat/Products/F...stallation.htm

I chose the G10R.

i followed directions perfectly.
I started moving the azimuth of the dish east 1-2 deg.
(pausing in between for 5-10 sec.) then tried west.
after getting no signal i tried moving the elevation.
All with no luck, no signal.
I've tried other satellites, same problem.
I'm going on my 3rd day trying and not even a blip on the quality bar.
I even tried changing cables and using a signal meter.

Is there something wrong with the LNB?

what do you think?

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You didn't say what LO settings you chose on the receiver antenna setup.
From the system you say you bought, I assume that you have the LNB that has 9.75 GHz and 10.6GHz LO freqs, not the 10.75 GHz that standard C/KU systems use.
I don't have any experience with this type LNB, so hopefully someone else can comment on the 22khz setting. It might be that your lnb isn't switching to the right LO freq.
You said tou tried using a signal meter. I assume one of the small cheap ones? That should tell you if you are in the ballpark re aiming. The signal reading on the receiver doesn't mean much.
I also assume that you are trying to lock on a known good transponder???
Anyway, hopefully someone else who uses that mount/lnb might comment, but the above should be a start. I'd guess that either you weren't measuring the elevation at the right place, or you have the wrong LO freqs entered. If you get a reading on the little hand held signal meter, then your lnb is probably OK.

[beck]

thanks guys for your reply,

I'm using a universal LNB 10.7-12.75.
LO freq of the LNB is 9.75g 10.6g

As per Fortec Lifetime ultra quick set up instructions it said that I do not need to adjust any transponder, or do I?
what do you mean active transponder?
Do i need to adjust the receiver to match the equipment that i have?

[wejones]

I can't help with respect to the best way to proceed with the Ultra. I'm using a regular Lifetime, which isn't blind search. However I'd assume that blind search would be more effective once you've found the satellite, and that while trying to find the satellite, it seems like it would be better to put the thing on a known transponder.
Ie on my regular Lifetime, in the antenna page where you set the lnb type and diseq and 22khz, etc, has a TP line which indicates a transponder frequency and SR. If this isn't on an active MPEG frequency, you won't get a quality level indicated on that page. Go to Lyngsat, and find a freq that you know is active, and change the TP line to that freq, and make sure that the SR matches what you see in Lyngsat. With the regular Lifetime, you can then use the level and quality meters on that page to search for the satellite, while changing the parameters, etc.
If you've already set up that page, you can also go to the TP scan menu item, and go to G10R, and scroll down till you come to a transponder you know is active, then do your aiming while watching the level/quality on that page. But if you aren't on an active transponder, it will be pretty hard to find the satellite.
I assume that the Lifetime Ultra must have similar menu windows to what I described, but maybe not. Hopefully someone with the Ultra can comment, but I can't imagine that it would be possible to find a sat if not tuned to an active transponder. But even if it is possible, I'd think it would be much faster if you already had it set on a known transponder.