Sadoun Tech Forums

 Save! Satellite Packages

  Latest Satellite Receivers

C & KU  Dishes & Mounts

 

Go Back   Sadoun Tech Forums > Satellite Forums > Free To Air Satellite > Fortec Star
Register
Home Register FAQ Members List Members World Map Calendar Arcade Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Fortec Star Discussions, Q&A about Fortec Star satellite receivers, LNBF, and dishes.

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 02-05-2008, 10:39 AM
1881-A's Avatar
1881-A 1881-A is offline
Member
Newbie
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 31
Rep Power: 0
1881-A is on a distinguished road
A New Set Of Fortec Star Spark Plugs Needed

My recent purchase of a Mercury II FTA receiver, is a nightmare getting it to load channels from a satellite. After some ten or so tries, it has it's problems-- a run-a-way train wreck.

As the commercials--advertisement states. If you own a GM automobile that need repairs, take it to Mr. Goodwrench. So, with this unknown "pain in the backside" situation. It would appear-- take it to similar Mr. Goodwrench.
Given the fact this Fortec receiver unit was manufactured in So. Korea, and probably was somehow got past the quality control inspector, and should have been ****-canned. ( That's an old US Navy term for sending it to Deep Six). So, the best logic here, take it back to it's original destination-- the factory. I'll just hop on the silver bird, with ticket in hand showing next stop Seoul, So. Korea. In the box will be this infamous--Fortec Star Mercury II, aka a "****-canned" piece of US junk metal sent to Korea to be sent back as a bona-fide working genius in need for a replacement set of "spark plugs" to make it past the working stage.

Some would say, why spend a thousand dollars on a piece of metal with a printed circuit board that cost on $109.00 +s/h to get it back to the factory. That is a good question... however, it's the principal of matter to show up at the factory and slap the inspectors with it.

Enough said'...
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 02-05-2008, 11:30 AM
lumpkin666 lumpkin666 is offline
Bored Member
Rising Star
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 166
Rep Power: 67
lumpkin666 is on a distinguished road
More info might help resolve the problem. Typically it's a configuration issue when you run into situations that seem impossible. Let us know what your configuration is, and what specific problems you are having, and I bet someone will be able to help you resolve your issues without flying to korea
__________________
I like to shop at Sadoun Satellite Sales

Dishes: 2 Primestar 75E, 2 Fortec 90cm, 2 10ft, 7.5ft
Motors: 2 SG2100, SkyJack 24" & 36" actuators
Movers: 2 VBoxII
LNB(f)s: Invacom qph-031, Primestar, dual/single ku, BSC621,Geosat dual C-Band, 2 Polarotor, Corotor
DVB Receivers/cards: 2 Fortec Classic NA, 2 Dreambox 500-s, SatPros DSR-550s, Digiwave DG7000, Lava 3200, Pansat 2500a, Viewsat Ultra, Twinhan 102g
Analog: Zenith 1000, GI 2400
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 02-05-2008, 11:44 AM
elgemcdlf's Avatar
elgemcdlf elgemcdlf is offline
Super Pro
Expert
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Carlisle, IN
Posts: 1,971
Rep Power: 296
elgemcdlf is a splendid one to beholdelgemcdlf is a splendid one to beholdelgemcdlf is a splendid one to beholdelgemcdlf is a splendid one to beholdelgemcdlf is a splendid one to beholdelgemcdlf is a splendid one to beholdelgemcdlf is a splendid one to behold
Send a message via MSN to elgemcdlf Send a message via Yahoo to elgemcdlf
Are you gonna send postcards? Seriously if this is your first FTA receiver the problem is most likely configuration. I have found FTA receivers to be akin to Linux. If you were not there with the early development years doing things may seem very difficult. This is not a DSR922!

As previously posted you have not provided any information which any of us might find helpful in resolving your issue. If I remember correctly you are slaving from a DSR922. So first things first. To be able to watch anything on a H polarity first your dish must be pointed at the correct sat. I have found renaming the sats in the Mercury to match your DSR922 works quite well. Now that you have your dish positioned properly you must also have the 922 on and on a H polarity channel.

Next on the list FTA receivers are far more touchy about alignment than the DSR922 is. Could part of the problem be alignment that is not quite right? Not bad enough to keep the 922 from locking but bad enough to cause problems with the FTA receiver? A little trick I like is to go to menu on a live tp and watch the quality as I bump the DRS922 until I reach peak signal.

Are you aware the Mercury has a channel backup feature? QWhen used and you perform a master reset as you did the other day you can load all your channels back in? Do you understand the menus when you go through them? Have you been to the Fortec site and looked through their online material concerning setup and usage?

Is this your first attempt at doing anything like this?
__________________
8.5' Mesh Dish w/ C & Ku lnb's & 24" actuator
8.5' Mesh Dish w/ BSC621-2 fixed install for circular C Band on 40.5
Fortec Star 90cm Dish w/ FSKUv lnbf & DMSISG2100
Motorola DSR922
Fortec Mercury II
Digital Stream HD1150.
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 02-05-2008, 01:42 PM
1881-A's Avatar
1881-A 1881-A is offline
Member
Newbie
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 31
Rep Power: 0
1881-A is on a distinguished road
Here are some facts... The BUD is a 10' Unimesh, which I've had some 26 years. The feed horn is a Chaparral with C-band Norsat LNB. A new Norsat 17 degree LNB was installed yesterday 2/3/08. My 4DTV-DSR922 is only 3 months old. The BUD sends signal qualities through the 922 in the 90 to 100 range on almost all satellites---AMC-10 (C4) to AMC-2 (W2). Only Galaxy 3R (G3) has a signal quality of 75-80.

When I was installing the LNB yesterday, had the wife to look at the signal quality on the Mercury while I was moving the BUD up/down and left/right. She told me the signal went to zero during my movements, so, it would appear the dish is in it's proper alignment.

The time spent has been on IA-13 (T7) (121.W, and Galaxy 10R (GO) 123.W trying to set-up the satellites and load those channels.. These two satellites carry the sports--The Sportsman and Outdoor Channels. I have no problem loading the Outdoor Channel on GO satellite. With Power Scan, Galaxy 10R came in and loaded, and was stored. Rainman, made a reply on how it should be done to get--Sportsman Channel. Set DSR-922 on T7, channel 21 (H) (Jewelry Channel), had the Mercury set to IA-13, Polarity--(All), Start Frequency--(3400), Frequency Step--(4). Locking Speed--(Normal), Power Scan-- Start (OK). I think ever vertical/horizontal channel loaded, "including" The Sportsman Channel.. GREAT..

I made a trip to the post office, and hour later I returned to find the Sportsman Channel had a "lock" with some ????? marks. To remove the lock problem, I did a factory reset.. There goes my Outdoor Channel, and Galaxy 10R satellite configuration
However, I did get the channels on Galaxy 10R to come back, and no problem there. Going back to rainman's suggestion, DSR-922 on channel 21, repeat same as above for IA-13 (T7), loaded just about ever vertical/horizontal channel.. with the exception --The Sportsman Channel.

The receiver remains calm at present---cooling off period. Maybe a diode will come back to life--soon I hope.
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 02-05-2008, 02:30 PM
elgemcdlf's Avatar
elgemcdlf elgemcdlf is offline
Super Pro
Expert
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Carlisle, IN
Posts: 1,971
Rep Power: 296
elgemcdlf is a splendid one to beholdelgemcdlf is a splendid one to beholdelgemcdlf is a splendid one to beholdelgemcdlf is a splendid one to beholdelgemcdlf is a splendid one to beholdelgemcdlf is a splendid one to beholdelgemcdlf is a splendid one to behold
Send a message via MSN to elgemcdlf Send a message via Yahoo to elgemcdlf
You have parental lock turned on for that sat. Go into the menu to the first category and choose the sat from the list of sats. You should see something labeled sat lock or similiar to that. You need to change that to OFF or UNLOCKED or whatever the opposite is of what you presently have.

By the way if you have the 922 set on a H polarity channel you are scanning in only H polarity channels. When you do a power scan set to H when on an H channel and V when the 922 is on a V channel. You are not scanning in both.
__________________
8.5' Mesh Dish w/ C & Ku lnb's & 24" actuator
8.5' Mesh Dish w/ BSC621-2 fixed install for circular C Band on 40.5
Fortec Star 90cm Dish w/ FSKUv lnbf & DMSISG2100
Motorola DSR922
Fortec Mercury II
Digital Stream HD1150.
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old 02-05-2008, 02:59 PM
1881-A's Avatar
1881-A 1881-A is offline
Member
Newbie
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 31
Rep Power: 0
1881-A is on a distinguished road
I've notice another problem. On satellite Galaxy 10R (GO) with the Outdoor Channel shown, and I switch back to IA-13 (T7) this satellite has all the channels deleted that I had loaded. Just now I went back to Galaxy 10R (GO), and all the channels on GO has deleted. I have to go back and start all over again, but, once I leave that satellite, nothing is saved. However, I have press the menu stating to store.. I guess none of these satellite/channels are ever stored, as I thought I had done.
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old 02-05-2008, 03:27 PM
1881-A's Avatar
1881-A 1881-A is offline
Member
Newbie
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 31
Rep Power: 0
1881-A is on a distinguished road
I don't know what buttons I pushed, but, here's something worth considering-- more like this can't be... I've found on IA-13 (T7), 12 stored Sportsman Channels.
It is listed on channels . 12, 18, 24, 47, 66. 70, 112, 146, 166, 176. 180, 188.

I didn't make a correct count, but, there must be over 600 channels stored for this satellite.

Time to get one the silver bird to Korea.
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old 02-05-2008, 06:52 PM
rainman's Avatar
rainman rainman is offline
Storm Chaser
Expert
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Louisa KY
Posts: 4,527
Rep Power: 556
rainman is just really nicerainman is just really nicerainman is just really nicerainman is just really nicerainman is just really nice
Send a message via MSN to rainman Send a message via Yahoo to rainman
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1881-A View Post
I don't know what buttons I pushed, but, here's something worth considering-- more like this can't be... I've found on IA-13 (T7), 12 stored Sportsman Channels.
It is listed on channels . 12, 18, 24, 47, 66. 70, 112, 146, 166, 176. 180, 188.

I didn't make a correct count, but, there must be over 600 channels stored for this satellite.

Time to get one the silver bird to Korea.

after you do a power scan and save channels and get back to the main screen if you click on the sat button then select the sat you want to veiw you will see all the channels you have saved for that satellite.
__________________
Rainman's Equipment
Undien 4600,DSR 922
Fortec Ultra, Satworks 3618
2 Fortec Mercury II
Fortec Classic NA
8.5' Orbitron polar C Ku dish
8.5' Birdview HH C Ku dish
100cm Fortec dish
90cm Fortec dish
2 DG-240 HH motors
Co Rotor II feed horn
Norsat 8515 C band lnb
Norsat 4506A Ku lnb
BSC-621-2 Lnbf
Invacom QPH-031 Lnbf
Invacom SNH-031 Lnbf
Fortec Fsku-v universal Lnbf
V-Box

I Like To Shop at Sadoun Satellite Sales.www.sadoun.com
Reply With Quote
Reply



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:39 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.0.0 RC6
Copyright , Sadoun.com