Unable to found Sat

[qasim715]

I just bought Motorized system from Sadoun.HH 90 motor,80 cm dish,Quad LNBF.My reciever is Ultra viewsat.I live in Marshfield, WI.My latitude 44 and longitude 90W.My true south 182(is this right).I assembled everything and mounted.I am searching Nimiq 1,3 91 W as my southern sat but unable to get it.I tried 82W but till unable to get.I was able to get 110 W and 119W when moving dish to west.Then I moved the dish east and was able to lock on 61.5 W but then lost 110 and 119.I am still unable to get 91W and 82W.What is wrong I am doing.Please help.

[slotzero]

Hmmm... I'm rather new to the hobby myself, but it sounds like your mount may not be perfectly plumb - that would be the first thing I checked.

How is the dish mounted?

[qasim715]

I mounted the bracket on the square wooden pole of my front porch.I check the 45 degree pole before munting the dish and it was 90 degree plumb.Now I will check again that after mounting the dish whether it tilted though it doesnt seem to be.Why I lost 110 and 119 when I move the dish to east to get 61.5.

How to install an HH-Mount Motor? Satcontrol SM3D12 STAB HH100 HH120 Motech SG2100

It sound like you might have the arch slightly miss at one point possibly with the 91w too high or too low not sure.

Try the link above.

Pole mount = plumb , try the side of the dish south as well as east and west of the pole.

The weight on the wood might have moved it by adding the dish.
You can if this is the case leave it and add a tension cable / fitting to the pole and the piece of wood. Not sure but likely. Or you can re-mount.

Also might want to possibly get a more stable mount point maybe your roof / concrete etc.
Hope this helps.

[rainman]

Originally Posted by qasim715

I just bought Motorized system from Sadoun.HH 90 motor,80 cm dish,Quad LNBF.My reciever is Ultra viewsat.I live in Marshfield, WI.My latitude 44 and longitude 90W.My true south 182(is this right).I assembled everything and mounted.I am searching Nimiq 1,3 91 W as my southern sat but unable to get it.I tried 82W but till unable to get.I was able to get 110 W and 119W when moving dish to west.Then I moved the dish east and was able to lock on 61.5 W but then lost 110 and 119.I am still unable to get 91W and 82W.What is wrong I am doing.Please help.

what channels are you trying to receive on these sats not much FTA program.

[wejones]

Originally Posted by rainman

what channels are you trying to receive on these sats not much FTA program.

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[rainman]

Originally Posted by wejones

Cue the music from JAWS

LMAO Bill.

[Bibbler]

I think I can guess what's coming....

[qasim715]

I am looking for all FTA channel which I can find.I was told to find first 91W and make it your reference point and then go from there.Is this the correct advice.My porch wooden post is square and at least 8 inch thick and very solid.It is basically holding fronyt porch roof on it.Will changing the site of base mount from side of the post to the front of the post will make any difference.Thanks

[rainman]

you could use 89 w as your south sat some FTA channels on it on the linear side of you lnb set lo freq to 10750 not much FTA on the other sats mostly info channels.

[qasim715]

In my front porch on ths wooden post where I have dish mounted has about 18 inch overhang roof which is just above the dish.Is this is a problem.

Originally Posted by qasim715

In my front porch on ths wooden post where I have dish mounted has about 18 inch overhang roof which is just above the dish.Is this is a problem.

Look at this website / software / picture of the dish and the 2 angled lines running towards a possible satellite.

SAT - Satellite Antenna Alignment (Satellite Dish Alignment)

And also at the pic's of the trees blocking the signal.

Dish Pointing Tips

Or just ad a photo here of the dish from the side if all else fails. Also possible distance between top of dish and the overhang + angle of dish = triangle and so one can work out the possible / amount of signal being blocked if at all similar to tree images.

Hope this helps.

[qasim715]

I took the base out from the wooden post and try to instal it on Porch roof.Porch roof is slanting.Is this a problem.When I mounted the base and put the 45 degree pole on it,it seems to me that it is not vertical.I used the sadoun angle finder as shown in the picture on the website,each side giving a different angle.It is different when put against north side of pole and different if put against east side.Why this is so.Do the roof need to be flat.

The roof can be round like a ball as well = no problem.

The pole you have = the universal mount ?? or a ground mount ?? see pics in links.
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It is easier to have the pole be 100% upright / plumb from all sides.
You might have to put braces / support arms like universal mount apearance to get it plumb / upright. ?

Or more difficult = get angle of roof and + or - from the needed angle the dish has to be . Will mean more adjustment + skew of lnb if sationary / fixed in place.
For a motor it might be easier.

plumb/90 + say 25deg for dish = 45 + 45 =90 + 25 of dish = same possition ?? or something like this or 30 + 60 =90 + angle 25 ?? might be more difficult.

roof + x = plumb or 90deg then add angle of dish = correct ??

Hope this helps, been too long since school days

Originally Posted by qasim715

I took the base out from the wooden post and try to instal it on Porch roof.Porch roof is slanting.Is this a problem.When I mounted the base and put the 45 degree pole on it,it seems to me that it is not vertical.I used the sadoun angle finder as shown in the picture on the website,each side giving a different angle.It is different when put against north side of pole and different if put against east side.Why this is so.Do the roof need to be flat.

Might need to loosen and hold pole only up to as close as plumb / upright and support it temporarily. Then make support arms to keep it like this ? Then once all is plumb fix it and add dish assembly.

Depends on pole / mount /universal mount you have.

[rainman]

Originally Posted by qasim715

In my front porch on ths wooden post where I have dish mounted has about 18 inch overhang roof which is just above the dish.Is this is a problem.

this should not be a problem. but the best solution is to set a pole in the ground and make sure it is plumb on all sides if not you will have trouble staying on the arc when the motor moves.

If you need to be on the roof = measure slope of north side of roof = say ?? 30 deg.

I need to have mine at 48 deg so 30 - 48 = 18.
Basically you mount it behind ridge of roof and - from your needed dish angle.

My neighbors is like this and he has Dish looking at dish network sat at somewhere 100w - 110w not sure.


Hope this helps PS> sorry I did not read properly did not understand the 45 you where talking about = universal mount

[qasim715]

I gave up roof idea and instal it on front porch wooden post .This time I installed the mount on front portion of the wooden post facing southeast.Previously it was facing southwest.Again I am locking only to 61.5 W.Unable to lock on any other sat.Waara Warra mentioned about slightly missing the arc but if I am getting locked on 61.5 then why I am not getting 82 W and 91 W.They should be on same arc.Is 61.5 W is too strong.I will try to take some pictures tomorrow and post it here.Please help me out.

[pmb1010]

see attached pic as to why you could lock on a sat, and not track the arc right.
I know it's a bit exaggerated, but you see the point