2 dishes, 1 switch , 1 receiver

wdiddy · #1 (**permalink**) 08-11-2006, 02:24 AM

I have one dish 500 pointed at 110 and 119 and the other is a motorized 33" dish. Can I use the disecq switch to combine the signals without having any problems using the motor??

I have a viewsat extreme if that makes a difference and I know that currently the dish 500 is useless just want to get it all wired now just in case it ever does start working.

Also my longitude is 123.1 I read that I can use the closest sat to find true south(Galaxy 10R 123). Will that be accurate enough for tracking the rest of the sats? I will have the motor at zero and then just turn the whole assembly to tune in Galaxy.

Searched and searched but couldn't find the answer regarding hookup.Sadoun's diagram just shows regular dishes not motors.
If someone could please answer these 2 questions it would be greatly appreciated, thanks.

rainman · #2 (**permalink**) 08-11-2006, 07:18 AM

your first step would be to read the posting rules.

elgemcdlf · #3 (**permalink**) 08-11-2006, 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by wdiddy

I have one dish 500 pointed at 110 and 119 and the other is a motorized 33" dish. Can I use the disecq switch to combine the signals without having any problems using the motor??

I have a viewsat extreme if that makes a difference and I know that currently the dish 500 is useless just want to get it all wired now just in case it ever does start working.

Also my longitude is 123.1 I read that I can use the closest sat to find true south(Galaxy 10R 123). Will that be accurate enough for tracking the rest of the sats? I will have the motor at zero and then just turn the whole assembly to tune in Galaxy.

Searched and searched but couldn't find the answer regarding hookup.Sadoun's diagram just shows regular dishes not motors.
If someone could please answer these 2 questions it would be greatly appreciated, thanks.

In short yes you can wire it in with no problems with the motor. You would need to place the switch between the motor and the lnbf of the large dish bringing in the signal from the second dish to that point BUT some / most of the smaller dishes use tones equal or very close to DiSeqC tones so when the receiver issued the command to the DiSeqC it would also be issuing the command to the small dish. That is unless you only wanted to use one lnbf from the small dish.

A much simpler solution to what you propose is to buy the Invacom qph-031 lnbf for the larger dish and throw the small dish away. After all the dish is motorized. There is very little to get from any of the DN sats with a FTA receiver. When balanced against the cost of the lnbf at this time not worth buying. Then factor in the poor picture quality of the DN system.

If you have never had sat TV before you will find there are greatly varying degrees in picture quality and DN is the bottom of the barrel.

wdiddy · #4 (**permalink**) 08-11-2006, 11:59 PM

Thanks El, I guess the disecq sending the motor signal to the small dish is not a problem?? I have a twin lnb on the small dish, I didn't quite get what you meant by "unless you want to use just one lnb from the small dish", what would the difference be?

I have had satellite for about 6 years now with different providers. Just new to FTA, thought I'd try it out. Didn't know the motor setup would be so much more intense than regular dish.

I didn't know the quality of picture was different among providers, thanks for the info.

Rainman I read the posting rules and don't think I did anything wrong. I didn't ask anything about hacking or setup for hacking. I think I posted in the right place.

rainman · #5 (**permalink**) 08-12-2006, 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by wdiddy

I have a viewsat extreme if that makes a difference and I know that currently the dish 500 is useless just want to get it all wired now just in case it ever does start working.

if i mistaken your post i am sorry but the above sounded funny to me.

elgemcdlf · #6 (**permalink**) 08-14-2006, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by wdiddy

Thanks El, I guess the disecq sending the motor signal to the small dish is not a problem?? I have a twin lnb on the small dish, I didn't quite get what you meant by "unless you want to use just one lnb from the small dish", what would the difference be?

Ok the small DN dish you speak of most likely has a built in internal switch that switches back and forth between the 2 lnbf's. Their systems can be quite complex sometimes. So you will require a DiSeqC switch to switch between multiple lnbf's. Now we look at what you have. 3 lnbf's. BUT the one small dish has a proprietary system not a "normal" run of the mill multi lnbf setup.

So lets say you put lnbf1 & lnbf2 from the small dish on port 1 of the DiSeqC and the lnbf from the larger dish on to port 3. Now you ask the motor to move to whatever sat and pull signal from port 3. Maybe this will cause the switch for the small dish to change at the same time thus not being able to get the proper signal to the receiver you desire. This most likely caused your small dish to switch to the left lnbf. As I think if you need to use lnbf2 from the small dish you need to send a constant signal for port2 to the dish.

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Originally Posted by wdiddy

I have had satellite for about 6 years now with different providers. Just new to FTA, thought I'd try it out. Didn't know the motor setup would be so much more intense than regular dish.

I didn't know the quality of picture was different among providers, thanks for the info.

Rainman I read the posting rules and don't think I did anything wrong. I didn't ask anything about hacking or setup for hacking. I think I posted in the right place.

Once you get your FTA system properly setup just look at the picture quality between it and whatever provider you are using now. As you get more into this as a hobby it will be funny how you can tell who provided teh signal just by looking at a TV.

wdiddy · #7 (**permalink**) 08-24-2006, 12:49 AM

What is going on here? I setup my motor, got my south sat tuned in, tried out the motor and was getting other sats as expected.

1.turned off the ird power and ran the cable from my ird to the motor's receiver input, then I took the lnb input on the motor and connected it to the receiver port of the switch.

2.Then I took the lnb of the 30" dish and connected it to port 4

3.Connected 2 smaller dishes to ports 1 and 3 of switch

Now my signal strength is bad and the motor doesn't move. Set disecq to port 4 in ird. What did I do wrong??

rainman · #8 (**permalink**) 08-24-2006, 07:18 AM

check your coax from the receiver for good connections. also on some receivers you have to power down for receiver to see disqec switch.

elgemcdlf · #9 (**permalink**) 08-24-2006, 07:21 AM

As I stated previously what you want to do will probably not work. I believe you are seeing the fruits of your labors. I would verify you have the cable from the motor and receiver connected properly. Should be lnb in on the receiver. I would try replacing the cable. You are using RG6 or better cable correct? There is an old saying about beating a dead horse.