can't get get any other sat exept Galaxy10R

[moorish]

hey everybody,
I recetnly installed the M2 package up the roof, and I literally spent 3 days triyng to find signals, I had all my settings right ( motor elevation, dish elevation, true south..) but at the end after trying every possible position(which means left and right, up and down..) I only got a signal from Galaxy10R and nothing else, as I was hopping to get IA5, but without luck.
any suggestions, did I miss something...? any help on this matter would be apreciated.
Thanks

[DruzeTito]

so when the motor moves to galaxy 10R, you can get signal? But when you move to IA5... nothing?

[moorish]

thanks for replying, well yeah, that's right I get a signal when the motor turns to Galaxy10R, but nothing when the motor goes to IA5. #-o

[DruzeTito]

so then when you goto IA5, have you tried adjusting your motor left/right and your dish elevation up down? can you find signal/quality like that?

[moorish]

yes, I moved it up and down right and left..and I only got 28% of signal strength max

[DruzeTito]

may you give me your zip code so I can calculate some stuff?

[moorish]

sure 02184

[DruzeTito]

As you probably know, you must have a good view of the sky at least for the satellites you want to view. Do not base it on your dishnet or directv satellte. These satelltes are very strong and can penetrate a lot of trees and branches before they lose signal. Ku FTA satellites are very different and need accuracy.

First, the elevation of your dish needs to be adjusted to about 40 degrees. So adjust as close as possible to this area. The dish elevation adjustment will be used for fine tuning your signal.

Second, make sure the actual motor is adjusted to your area's latitude, your Latitude is 42.2 N. You only set the motor to this number, and leave it. It will not be used for fine-tuning a signal.

And last, I calculated the magnetic deviation in your area to be +15 so point your whole motor/dish aimed as close as 195 on the compass as possible. I got this by adding 15 to 180.. which is south. 195 on your compass will be your true south. Make sure you use a good, accurate compass and stay away from metal objects when pointing.

As for the LNB, LEAVE IT to neutral.. 0 position. The lnb is NOT USED for fine tuning the signal because the motor automatically does polarization adjustment.

Make sure your connections are good: lnb goes to motor lnb input, motor output goes straight to receiver IF Input. Nothing should be in between this connection.

Now, as for the pole, make sure that it is tightened very good because the combination of the dish and motor put a good amount of weight on the pole and if the pole is not stable then it will probably not be level any more once the dish and motor are on. The pole must be level from BOTH sides, not just one side.

Ok once you have everything up above in good shape then time to do what you need on the receiver.

Fire up the receiver and goto antenna setup. Scroll down and find AMC 5/ku. Set the lnb type to UNIVERSAL 1.

LNB power should be ON.

Diseqc should be set to off.

And TP should be set to 11742 V 11110 for Utah education networks. (If you don’t have this TP then you must add it manually through edit /tp satellite in the main menu)

Leave satellite scan to FTA.

And now, go to “positioner setting”, switch it to USALS, and hit OK.

You will now be in the positioner setting options. Go ahead and set the latitude to 42.2 N and longitude to 72.0 W.

Now hit MOVE. The motor should now start moving the dish from its 0 position, which is your true south 72W to the AMC 5 position which is 79W. The motor will not move a lot because AMC 5 is fairly close to the true south position.

After you have done this, now is the time to adjust the signal and quality. You may or may not have a signal quality but chances are you don’t.

First step is to move the whole motor/dish mount by hand. Move it VERY SLOWLY left or right noticing any signal or quality changes. You are looking for good quality. If you notice your signal rise when you move left or right then you are close!! keep moving left or right.. if it starts to go down again.. then move back and leave the assembly to where you saw the highest signal.

At this point, adjust your DISH ELEVATION. Move it verrrry slowly up or down. Notice any kind of changes you see on your signal. If your signal gets higher and moving around this area does not give you any quality, then leave it to the highest possible signal you are getting and tighten it there.

Repeat the above 2 steps and use combinations of slight dish elevation change and left or right on the motor until you get a good quality and signal.

By this point you should have successfully found your closest to true south sat AMC 5 tp 11742. Hit store in the positioner setting options menu. And goto satellite scan, set to FTA and press OK. You will now search AMC 5 and should scan in some channels.

The next step will be to find the western most sat, Galaxy 10R. Do the exact same thing you did for amc 5, goto antenna setup, g10r ku, this time set the tp to 11720 V 27692. Again if this isn’t in the TP list add it manually. Then goto usals, your lat and longitude should be already stored and hit move. Your motor will move to the G10R position. If you have signal and quality here AWESOME, if not, go back and adjust your dish elevation and or motor mount/dish to peak signal and quality. Once you are done hit store. Then scan in some channels.

Now the way you can confirm if you can track all the satellites correctly is by exiting all the way to channel viewing. Check to see if the channels are working in AMC 5 and galaxy 10R. To move to either satellite press SAT on the remote and choose the one you want to goto.

If one satellite works, but the other doesn’t even though you have adjusted for max signal quality for both then chances are the pole is not level!

I now this is a lot of information but if you do it step by step and double checking every step you should be able to do it. If you have any question feel free to ask. GOOD LUCK!

[moorish]

I basically done all of that with IA5 and Galaxy10R, but I never checked the MC5 ku sat, um...I'm gonna do everything again and follow your directions. now, only one time I got about 70% 0f IA5 when I was looking for the sat signal and then I started looking for Galaxy 10R, and when I moved back to find IA5 I could'nt get anything more than 28%, and that was it, but as I said I'll try your directions again and see what happens.
and thank you again for the time you spent on writting back to me, I appriciate that...I'l try to get back to you once I go throug taht.

[DruzeTito]

I usually get what you describe when the pole is not level.. recheck the pole and make sure it is rock solid and level on both of it's right angles.

[moorish]

Hi again,
I tried what you toled me, I checked everything, and everything is set the right way, but still I c'ant get a strong signal (more than 26%) and I also tried to look for AMC5 but couldn't find it (0%) I'm about to give up on it. I don't know what's wrong, could it be a tree on the way? because there is two big trees on the way but they are fairlly far from me, I'm not sure if the top of the trees is blocking my way???

[DruzeTito]

you mean you are getting 26 SIGNAL or 26 QUALITY? Which transponder are you using for IA5?

[benny666]

Originally Posted by moorish

Hi again,
I tried what you toled me, I checked everything, and everything is set the right way, but still I c'ant get a strong signal (more than 26%) and I also tried to look for AMC5 but couldn't find it (0%) I'm about to give up on it. I don't know what's wrong, could it be a tree on the way? because there is two big trees on the way but they are fairlly far from me, I'm not sure if the top of the trees is blocking my way???

moorish ,
try to aim the dish to the angle of AMC5 79W then loose the nuts of the elavation and begin to move the dish up and down ; a little bit of horizontal movement will not hurt neither ... After you got signal then tighten those nuts up. I got this way locking the signal and found out that my dish elavation was off by 4-5 degrees. I wondered why it worked but I am glad I got locked the signal for IA5 ...
Keep trying and don't give up ... just yet, man !!!
May the Forces be with j00 ,,,
g00d lucks surfing the sat's signal ...

Benny ,