Newbie question- RTP International

[RdRunner]

I searched but couldn't find any info on here about it. If I was to get an FTA receiver and I'm assuming a 31" or bigger dish would I be able to get RTP International on AMC 4? I'm located in Toronto, Canada by the way.

I also noticed that on a few other post I've read on here that you can only get free channels that are marked with F on lyngsat, if so how come lyngsat on the main page list RTP as free tv but once you check AMC 4 for example there is no F on there? Does this mean I can't get that channel even if I wanted to?

Thanks in advance...cheers!

[shoemaker]

Yes you are able to receive RTPi in Toronto. I'm in Toronto also and i receive it with good quality.
You need this:
- 33" dish or bigger with linear lnb
- any FTA receiver works
- point the dish to 101W
look for frequency 12169
If you need more info send me a message.

[RdRunner]

Thanks for the quick reply shoemaker, appreciate it...

I'll be sure to message you if I need any more info...cheers!

[leaos]

Hi Guys

I live in Brampton and I'm having a hard time to get the RTPi (AMC 4), I have a 36" dish, but an old FTA receiver (4 years old), I don't know if it the the problem findind the satellite of the information in the receiver...please some advise would be great

thank you

[bobkat]

Originally Posted by leaos

Hi Guys

I live in Brampton and I'm having a hard time to get the RTPi (AMC 4), I have a 36" dish, but an old FTA receiver (4 years old), I don't know if it the the problem findind the satellite of the information in the receiver...please some advise would be great

thank you

What brand of receiver and what kind of LNB do you have? We will guide you from there.

kat

[RdRunner]

Hello once again everyone...after I originaly started this thread in June, I never got around to actually setting it up. So now that I decided to finaly get off my lazy butt I once again require some help. First off a little background on the equipment being used:

Fortec Ultra receiver
39" dish
the Lnb came with the dish...it's a model # MSLS-107 input freq. 11.7Ghz-12.75Ghz L.O. freq. 10.75Ghz (that's what it says on the LNB if this means anything to you guys I'm not sure)

I got it up on my roof and as far as I can tell I'm pointing the right direction...after playing around for a little bit I got the Level to show 78% although the Quality never moves...it's always showing 0%

so I locked it in at this 78% Level and tried playing around with the different TP frequency and I did get some to show a quality of 50% with a high of 73% however when I power scan whatever bird I seem to be locked into the channel list comes up empty. I tried looking for freq. 12169 as per your directions but the quality never moves and all I do is eventually lose the level as well.

Just wondering if you guys have any ideas what I might be doing wrong. Am I trying to lock into the wrong bird? I know there are several within a few degrees of each other. Or maybe I'm doing something wrong with the setup of the receiver? I must admit most of that stuff in there doesn't mean much to me, and when it does make sense I can't make it do what I want it to.

Thanks once again everyone. Cheers!

[bobkat]

Hey RdRunner:

Nice post. You have outlined what you tried and what went wrong. I wish more folks would be that specific. I get so tired of people just posting something like "I can't find the signal!! HELP !!" :mozilla_cry:

Anyway. From what you have said:

You have a standard LNB; so the LNB setting in the receiver must be set to 10,750 MHz.

I think you hit the wrong satellite. The fact you got quality means everything is working, except its not on the satellite you want, namely AMC4.

Try using another transponder. Try 12,120 MHz, 30,000 SR and VERTICAL polarity. Its stronger. Set your receiver to this transponder and realign the dish. When you get a decent quality (anything over 40), lock it down. Then do a power scan and RTP should come in. If not, search that transponder (the 12,169 one) only and do a manual scan. Your 39" dish is more than big enough for good reception on AMC4.

kat

[RdRunner]

Thanks bobkat for your quick reply. I'm true believer that if people are specific about stuff it makes everyones life easier and your bound to get a quicker response and solution to the problem.

With that in mind...I'll go back and try what you suggested. I'll let you know how it turns out...cheers!

[RdRunner]

ok...some more info that might or might not be useful.

Went back up on the roof...still showing 0% quality on that 12,120MHz 30,000SR vertical. However since I had tracked westward and the signal level went from 75% down to 57% and back up to 78% I figured this was a different bird than the one I was originally on since I was several degrees west of where I began.

With this in mind I decided to lock it in and do a power scan again...it found several working TP's and when it finally scanned for channels it found several(not what I was looking for though)

I've looked through lyngsat to see which bird these channels might be on but I can't seem to locate them on the list so I'll list them here and maybe you can tell me which bird I'm locked into and where I should go from here.

the channels are:

BTV-1
BTV-2
BTV-3
TV 28005
TV 28105
TV 4010
TV 4020
TV 28001
TV 3999
TV 4030
TV 11
TV 20500
WESH FIXED 2 (this is the only one actually showing anything, it appears to be Discovery Kids)
MTS_ENC-1 (this is showing just the vertical multicolored strips like you get when tv doesn't work but on it says something about Intelsat IA8, I looked for intelsat 8 and it appears to be an atlantic bird which I doubt I would be catching not to mention none of the above channels are listed on Intelsat 8 according to lyngsat)

Any ideas where I go from here?

cheers!

[satnutwillb]

Yup. sounds like IA8.at 89w.Look on lyngsat and try 12060 v 26700 and move back 2 degrees to G11.If you can get a lock on that then use lyngsat and find the next sat 2 degrees over find listing on lyngsat,scan that in for T6 at 93 degrees.It is slower but,finding it like that will help you keep up with where you are and you will know you're closer each time.Hope that helps and good luck.

[bobkat]

Originally Posted by satnutwillb

Yup. sounds like IA8.at 89w.Look on lyngsat and try 12060 v 26700 and move back 2 degrees to G11.If you can get a lock on that then use lyngsat and find the next sat 2 degrees over find listing on lyngsat,scan that in for T6 at 93 degrees.It is slower but,finding it like that will help you keep up with where you are and you will know you're closer each time.Hope that helps and good luck.

Yup, that will work. Good method.

Or just preset the elevation to 34" for that dish (I know exactly the one you have) and point it at around 220 degrees on the compass. For the Toronto area.

kat

[RdRunner]

ok...just an update for those of you who may be interested in hearing about my great failure :mozilla_cry:

according to my lovely wife there was a point when I was showing a 98% level and 70% quality when looking for for the 12120 V however it lasted but a split second and I'm as of yet to get it again...I'm in that general area now and I've locked into another bird...after doing another power scan of this particular bird it has 38 tp and the channel scanner is showing lots of channels on it...only problem is they are all scrambled...lol...to make matters even more frustating RTP just happens to be one of those channels...LOL...scrambled of course...the channel line up looks very similar to my old Dish 61.5 lineup however when I look at the direction this thing is pointing it's almost at a 90 degree angle to where my old 61.5 is pointing so I don't think that's what I'm locked into now...which puzzles me since I don't know of anything else that carries RTP.

Anyway...I've come to the conclusion that for today I must admit defeat and choose to fight another day(that day being tomorrow of course, lol)

I'll keep you posted :mozilla_wink:

[RdRunner]

ok...at least one mystery solved...

while browsing through the channels to see what might work and what doesn't I came across one that basically simply says...

"Welcome to Dish, you're tuned to 121.0 W"

so I guess at least now I know where I am and where I should be going...tomorrow I just have to figure how I'm going to get there :mozilla_smile:

Cheers!

[bobkat]

If you hit Echostar 9 (121 degrees) then you are too far west and too low. Crack that elevation up about 7 degrees and move the dish east.

Are you sure your mast is 100 % plumb in all directions? Make damn sure it is. Otherwise you will be on that roof for hours and wifey will soon tire of your endeavors and give up. Then its really hard to find the signal...

kat

[RdRunner]

welcome ladies and gentlemen...it's a beautiful sunny day in southern ontario and our saga shall now continue...ok, ok, enough of that :mozilla_smile:

I did exactly what you guys suggested and finally got a 90% level and a 48% quality when searching for the 12120 V 30,000 SR it did not find 12169 however.

I then manualy scanned for 12169 H 30000 SR but it found nothing...does this mean I'm in the wrong bird yet again?

I do have courtTV, A&E Biography, Fox News, TAN TV, etc...which according to lyngsat are all on AMC 4 so how come I can't find RTP? Maybe you can tell me exactly what I'm doing wrong...Thanks.

[satnutwillb]

I think you are on the right bird,but if you are trying to receive rtpi change the sr. from 30000 to 3003 and try that.When you try that you may have to wait a few secs.[I do] for it to lock.You can also adjust the freq.or sr.+ or - a little and get better results.Hope this helps and maybe a little tweaking and you should be good to go.

[RdRunner]

just a quick update...I went back up on the roof and fine tuned it to a 98% Level and a 78% Quality on the 12120 V 30,000 SR however still no luck on 12169 H.

I figured with such a strong signal from one of the birds TP frequencies the others should be right there for the taking but I must admit this one has me puzzled. Eagerly awaiting for you input everyone. Cheers!

Edit: satnutwillb - I guess you were responding as I was posting the above...thanks for you input...I'll try your suggestion...cheers!

[RdRunner]

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EUREKA! Thank you very much satnutwillb, that last suggestion of yours finally did the trick. And thank you very much as well bobkat for all your help as well. Both of you have been tremendous. Cheers! :mozilla_smile: :mozilla_smile: :mozilla_smile: :mozilla_smile:

[bobkat]

Originally Posted by RdRunner

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EUREKA! Thank you very much satnutwillb, that last suggestion of yours finally did the trick. And thank you very much as well bobkat for all your help as well. Both of you have been tremendous. Cheers! :mozilla_smile: :mozilla_smile: :mozilla_smile: :mozilla_smile:

Glad we could help!!! Congrats... =D>

kat

[satnutwillb]

Good deal.

[lpgao939]

Just read your reply to other. I like you give me help too. My question is that is it important to set correct transponder during receiver setup? How do I know the right transponder? Same thing as LNB. If I dont have any information for them what I put here?

Thanks in advance.

Liping