Trying to understand the info in LyngSat for FTA

[satnutwillb]

Are there any ZK chs. besides the music chs?

[wejones]

Are there any ZK chs. besides the music chs?

I don't think there are many, if any. Years ago, the KET channels on AMC1 were ZK, but that was like 10 years ago, and I haven't tuned them in since. About a year ago, someone suggested that only the music channels were ZK, and I tried to find an exception, and did, but I think it was a promo type channel or something. Most free DCII are FP.

[satnutwillb]

Thanks wejones for the info.

[Admin]

Here is a link to guide for Lyngsat tables
Lyngsat Quick Guide

[teched]

Here is a link to guide for Lyngsat tables
Lyngsat Quick Guide

Unfortunately that page and "Free To Air FTA Satellite Channels from USA, Europe, Middle East, Asia Arabic, Chinese, Persian, Turkish, Kurdish TV Telstar5 (IA5) Television" can lead people to misunderstand that Digicipher channels are FTA and receivable with FTA equipment, such as a Mercury II.

[Sadoun]

No, because the signal type must be DVB for the DVB FTA receiver (such as Mercury II ) to receive it. Some of the Digicipher channels are FTA but only receivable with Digicipher II capable receiver such as the 4DTV.

[wejones]

No, because the signal type must be DVB for the DVB FTA receiver (such as Mercury II ) to receive it. Some of the Digicipher channels are FTA but only receivable with Digicipher II capable receiver such as the 4DTV.

I think that you don't understand. What you say above is exactly what I think he is trying to say, and what I've said in several posts in the past. Ie I think that your web page makes it sound like the "F" on Lyngsat refers to FTA, and that is DEFINATELY misleading to newcomers to your site, because there have been numerous people who have asked questions on this forum, regarding why they can't pick up DCII signals when they have the "F" . I really think that it would be best for you to modify your web page to explain what you say above, ie that the "F" at Lyngsat ONLY means FTA if the signal is DVB.

I think that the way it is worded now on your web page, it would seem to be false advertising with respect to the capability of the receivers you are selling, because you are in effect telling potential customers that they can use an FTA receiver to pick up DCII signals that are listed in Lyngsat with an "F".

Anyway, I agree with teched .

[Sadoun]

Bill

What are you saying? I guess I am confused. Those channels are FTA if they have F don't they?

I think I explained correctly above about DCII, didn't I? I will take a look at the page(s) you are refering to and try to make it clearer.

[wejones]

Bill

What are you saying? I guess I am confused. Those channels are FTA if they have F don't they?

I think I explained correctly above about DCII, didn't I? I will take a look at the page(s) you are refering to and try to make it clearer.

For example, look at the 12110 or 12140 MUX on AMC3.
AMC 3 at 87.0°W - LyngSat

Both of these have an "F" on them, but they are not FTA in the sense that they can be received with a DVB FTA receiver. Ie as you say above, you need a DCII receiver such as a 4DTV or a commercial DCII receiver like a DSR 4200V to receive them. These FP channels that are really encrypted. There are other types of DCII channels that are unencrypted ZK, that can be received by generic DCII receivers, but still not receivable by a DVB FTA receiver.
It's really Lyngsat that is at fault here, as I think they should designate their channels differently, but the way Lyngsat does it now, you can't really say that a channel with an "F" is FTA. It's more that it is free if you have the right receiver, which includes not only FTA, but also FP and ZK DCII signals.

EDIT: I should have referred to my post #29 above, which explains what I was trying to say better.

[Sadoun]

BILL

I think we are in agreement...