Help please..10 foot dish and Coolsat 5000

[spocter72]

Hello all,

I have hooked a Coolsat 5000 to my 10 'dish. I no longer have a positioner for the dish, so I have to move it manually. I used to get all 26 sats when I did use it a couple of years ago. Unfortunately now, I cannot get any sats except 1 or 2 religious sats. I put the coolsat on 97w and turn the sat a degree or two at a time from end to end and cannot find anything except them 2 sats I said. I am using the default settings on the Coolsat as far as lnb type etc. Will the Coolsat itself change the "V" and "H" on the lnb? Could someone please tell me what settings I should be using on the Coolsat? I have a 10' aluminum dish as I said with the "C" band and "Ku" lnb. I am lost. Thank you all in advance

[pmb1010]

Will the Coolsat itself change the "V" and "H" on the lnb?

Depends on the model of the LNBF you are using.
Do you know the model number?

I don't think the coolsat will move a "co-rotor" if that is what you are using. That LNB uses separate control voltage on a separate wires (and not over the coax like FTA boxes typically do)

[spocter72]

Thank you for your reply. No, I do not know the model of the lnb. It is the big one for the 10' dish. I know that sounds stupid, but thats all I know about it. Would you happen to know what the settings should be for the 97 bird in the Coolset setup? Even if I had to get all odd or all even for now would surely be better than nothing. Thank you so much again

[bubby-joe]

Coolsat should be set to the following:

MAKE SURE YOUR TRANSPONDER INFORMATION IS CURRENT (very important)......this can be checked on LYNGSAT

For C-band:
LNB on
freq. standard 5150
transponder cycles (look on lyngsat for current information)

For Ku band:
LNB on
freq. standard 10750
transponder cycles (same as above)

To move the old dish, you will need a V-box or similar that has 24-36 volts to move the old style actuator motor....YOU will have to move the dish with Diseqc commands as USALS will not work with the older actuator motors.

If the lnb has a 5 volt servo motor to change polarity your hooped with the coolsat but most older pansats have the servo control on the back, wire it to your LNB to change polarity... Or swap out your old LNB for an LNBF, (polarity switched by line voltage, 13 volt=Horizontal 18 volt=vertical).
A BSC-621 works fairly well on the 10 foot dish for both C and Ku reception, there are others as well.

[spocter72]

bubby-joe,

I am able to move the dish with no problem. For some reason though I cannot get the sats. I think the Coolsat might be the problem. I went to Lyngsat as directed, but I do not know what I am looking for. For Sat 97w, these are the default options on the coolsat.

Satellite 97w IA-5
LNB Power On /Off
LNB Type Universal, OCS, OCS-DP, Legacy Twin LNB1, Legacy Twin LNB2, .................Legacy Quad LNB1, Legacy Quad LNB2, Single
LNB Freq 9.750/10.600 , 9.750/10.750 , 00.000/00.000
22Khz Auto
Diseqc Switch off, 1.0, 1.0/1.1
Legacy Sw off, sw21 dish1, sw21 dish2, sw42 Dish1, sw42 Dish2

Do you have any idea what options I should select?

Thank You Very Much

[spocter72]

Anyone Please?

[spocter72]

Thank You ,.....Appreciate the reply's

[bubby-joe]

Originally Posted by spocter72

bubby-joe,

I am able to move the dish with no problem. For some reason though I cannot get the sats. I think the Coolsat might be the problem. I went to Lyngsat as directed, but I do not know what I am looking for. For Sat 97w, these are the default options on the coolsat.

Satellite 97w IA-5
LNB Power On /Off
LNB Type Universal, OCS, OCS-DP, Legacy Twin LNB1, Legacy Twin LNB2, .................Legacy Quad LNB1, Legacy Quad LNB2, Single
LNB Freq 9.750/10.600 , 9.750/10.750 , 00.000/00.000
22Khz Auto
Diseqc Switch off, 1.0, 1.0/1.1
Legacy Sw off, sw21 dish1, sw21 dish2, sw42 Dish1, sw42 Dish2

Do you have any idea what options I should select?

Thank You Very Much

I've been busyyyyyyyyyyy
LNB power = on
LNB type = single or standard
LNB frequency C-band =5150 Ku-band linear= 10750, circular = 11250
Transponder frequencies =same as LYNGSAT information for current
Polarity either H or V, whatever LYNGSAT lists it as.
cycles =same as what's listed in LYNGSAT there info is up to date
information you want frequency and cycles to see the satellite...

eg. 97.0W IA-5 now (Galaxy 25) TP freq. 11.716 Polarity "V" cycles 22000 is active, my info maybe different, it came from telle satellite magazine not lyngsat but that's the kind of information your looking for, mainly you can find any satellite with those 3 pieces of current information

Diseqc switch = off, on if your using one
22khz switch =off, on only if you have one
To setup go from LNB to receiver with no switch, after you find it and figure out what your doing then install the switch...
diseqc switch:
later connect c-band cable to the diseqc switch "B","2"
later connect Ku-band cable to diseqc switch "A","1", A is usually straight through in event of a switch failure.
22khz switch:
C-band lnb to 2/B
Ku-band to 1/A

An older LNB with a small servo motor to switch polarities will give you a double channel list on a blind or power scan, 2 times whatever polarity your on you have to manually change polarities with whatever your using to move the dish to get the other polarity. A newer LNBF however will switch polarities with high or low voltage cable voltage from your coolsat to the LNBF.

You will want to do all your fine tuning on the KU band linear with no switch
select the same in the receivers antenna setup menu....
After your fully fine tuned then place and setup any switches....
Best to use a receiver and small monitor right behind the dish if you don't have a good satellite finder. (digital meters are better, real time readings no delays)
Any motorized dish sets up first to your true south satellite then after your fully fine tuned then moves with the motor to track the rest of the satellite arc.

[spocter72]

Thank you very much for all that info. A lot of typing I know. Appreciate it alot

[bubby-joe]

Originally Posted by spocter72

Thank you very much for all that info. A lot of typing I know. Appreciate it alot

There's more reading on your part than writing on mine. Good luck on your install.

[spocter72]

One hopefully last question, If I used the Nfusion Nova fta box, would that be any better that the Coolsat 5000? Would the Nfusion change the V+H through the coax? Thank You Very much

[bubby-joe]

Originally Posted by spocter72

One hopefully last question, If I used the Nfusion Nova fta box, would that be any better that the Coolsat 5000? Would the Nfusion change the V+H through the coax? Thank You Very much

How is polarity switched now, with a servo motor controlled LNB then (NO) if its voltage switched by the receiver with an LNBF then (YES) but the Coolsat should also work flawlessly with an LNBF. An Nfusion nova won't make any difference until you can get the Coolsat working just changing the box won't fix anything for you.

This is something that requires you to watch video how to's and read a lot to get the perfect setup, if that's possible, mines not perfect but it's getting there.....

[pmb1010]

Spocter

You really should invest in one of these for your big dish.
GeaoSat Pro C KU Band Prime Focus LNBF

It will make things much easier for you.
It automatically switches the V/H via the coax cable, and allows you to watch both C band and Ku band on your dish.

You're trying to use old equipment (your LNB) is made for the old receivers.
Replacing your C/ku unit with this will help you along.

[Powrline]

Is it possible that he's using an Analog feedhorn?

I don't have c-band (yet) but it seems that analog is dropping off of satellites as the digital signals increase.


Thanks.
Bill

[rainman]

Originally Posted by Powrline

Is it possible that he's using an Analog feedhorn?

I don't have c-band (yet) but it seems that analog is dropping off of satellites as the digital signals increase.


Thanks.
Bill

the feed horn won't be a problem as long as you have away to change polarity.they all will get digital signals.