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    Help please..10 foot dish and Coolsat 5000

    Hello all,

    I have hooked a Coolsat 5000 to my 10 'dish. I no longer have a positioner for the dish, so I have to move it manually. I used to get all 26 sats when I did use it a couple of years ago. Unfortunately now, I cannot get any sats except 1 or 2 religious sats. I put the coolsat on 97w and turn the sat a degree or two at a time from end to end and cannot find anything except them 2 sats I said. I am using the default settings on the Coolsat as far as lnb type etc. Will the Coolsat itself change the "V" and "H" on the lnb? Could someone please tell me what settings I should be using on the Coolsat? I have a 10' aluminum dish as I said with the "C" band and "Ku" lnb. I am lost. Thank you all in advance

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    Will the Coolsat itself change the "V" and "H" on the lnb?

    Depends on the model of the LNBF you are using.
    Do you know the model number?

    I don't think the coolsat will move a "co-rotor" if that is what you are using. That LNB uses separate control voltage on a separate wires (and not over the coax like FTA boxes typically do)

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    Thank you for your reply. No, I do not know the model of the lnb. It is the big one for the 10' dish. I know that sounds stupid, but thats all I know about it. Would you happen to know what the settings should be for the 97 bird in the Coolset setup? Even if I had to get all odd or all even for now would surely be better than nothing. Thank you so much again

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    Coolsat should be set to the following:

    MAKE SURE YOUR TRANSPONDER INFORMATION IS CURRENT (very important)......this can be checked on LYNGSAT

    For C-band:
    LNB on
    freq. standard 5150
    transponder cycles (look on lyngsat for current information)

    For Ku band:
    LNB on
    freq. standard 10750
    transponder cycles (same as above)

    To move the old dish, you will need a V-box or similar that has 24-36 volts to move the old style actuator motor....YOU will have to move the dish with Diseqc commands as USALS will not work with the older actuator motors.

    If the lnb has a 5 volt servo motor to change polarity your hooped with the coolsat but most older pansats have the servo control on the back, wire it to your LNB to change polarity... Or swap out your old LNB for an LNBF, (polarity switched by line voltage, 13 volt=Horizontal 18 volt=vertical).
    A BSC-621 works fairly well on the 10 foot dish for both C and Ku reception, there are others as well.
    Last edited by bubby-joe; 05-24-2009 at 03:24 PM.
    Please don't PM me directly for information, answers to almost all your questions are in the FORUMS.
    Some reading is required.

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    bubby-joe,

    I am able to move the dish with no problem. For some reason though I cannot get the sats. I think the Coolsat might be the problem. I went to Lyngsat as directed, but I do not know what I am looking for. For Sat 97w, these are the default options on the coolsat.

    Satellite 97w IA-5
    LNB Power On /Off
    LNB Type Universal, OCS, OCS-DP, Legacy Twin LNB1, Legacy Twin LNB2, .................Legacy Quad LNB1, Legacy Quad LNB2, Single
    LNB Freq 9.750/10.600 , 9.750/10.750 , 00.000/00.000
    22Khz Auto
    Diseqc Switch off, 1.0, 1.0/1.1
    Legacy Sw off, sw21 dish1, sw21 dish2, sw42 Dish1, sw42 Dish2

    Do you have any idea what options I should select?

    Thank You Very Much

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    Anyone Please?

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    Thank You ,.....Appreciate the reply's

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    Quote Originally Posted by spocter72 View Post
    bubby-joe,

    I am able to move the dish with no problem. For some reason though I cannot get the sats. I think the Coolsat might be the problem. I went to Lyngsat as directed, but I do not know what I am looking for. For Sat 97w, these are the default options on the coolsat.

    Satellite 97w IA-5
    LNB Power On /Off
    LNB Type Universal, OCS, OCS-DP, Legacy Twin LNB1, Legacy Twin LNB2, .................Legacy Quad LNB1, Legacy Quad LNB2, Single
    LNB Freq 9.750/10.600 , 9.750/10.750 , 00.000/00.000
    22Khz Auto
    Diseqc Switch off, 1.0, 1.0/1.1
    Legacy Sw off, sw21 dish1, sw21 dish2, sw42 Dish1, sw42 Dish2

    Do you have any idea what options I should select?

    Thank You Very Much
    I've been busyyyyyyyyyyy
    LNB power = on
    LNB type = single or standard
    LNB frequency C-band =5150 Ku-band linear= 10750, circular = 11250
    Transponder frequencies =same as LYNGSAT information for current
    Polarity either H or V, whatever LYNGSAT lists it as.
    cycles =same as what's listed in LYNGSAT there info is up to date
    information you want frequency and cycles to see the satellite...

    eg. 97.0W IA-5 now (Galaxy 25) TP freq. 11.716 Polarity "V" cycles 22000 is active, my info maybe different, it came from telle satellite magazine not lyngsat but that's the kind of information your looking for, mainly you can find any satellite with those 3 pieces of current information

    Diseqc switch = off, on if your using one
    22khz switch =off, on only if you have one
    To setup go from LNB to receiver with no switch, after you find it and figure out what your doing then install the switch...
    diseqc switch:
    later connect c-band cable to the diseqc switch "B","2"
    later connect Ku-band cable to diseqc switch "A","1", A is usually straight through in event of a switch failure.
    22khz switch:
    C-band lnb to 2/B
    Ku-band to 1/A

    An older LNB with a small servo motor to switch polarities will give you a double channel list on a blind or power scan, 2 times whatever polarity your on you have to manually change polarities with whatever your using to move the dish to get the other polarity. A newer LNBF however will switch polarities with high or low voltage cable voltage from your coolsat to the LNBF.

    You will want to do all your fine tuning on the KU band linear with no switch
    select the same in the receivers antenna setup menu....
    After your fully fine tuned then place and setup any switches....
    Best to use a receiver and small monitor right behind the dish if you don't have a good satellite finder. (digital meters are better, real time readings no delays)
    Any motorized dish sets up first to your true south satellite then after your fully fine tuned then moves with the motor to track the rest of the satellite arc.
    Last edited by bubby-joe; 05-27-2009 at 01:41 AM.

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    Thank you very much for all that info. A lot of typing I know. Appreciate it alot

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    Quote Originally Posted by spocter72 View Post
    Thank you very much for all that info. A lot of typing I know. Appreciate it alot
    There's more reading on your part than writing on mine. Good luck on your install.

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