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    Italian TV/programming problem

    Is anybody getting Roma Uno or other Italian Channels on 43.1 West?

    Anybody in Arizona that monitors this site?

    This sat is located at about 8.7 degrees above the horizon here and is likely obstructed for me.

    I'm in Arizona and really sad I can't get 30 West.

    Anyway as the satellite was not programmed into my machine at the factory, , I had to program it.

    That is all fine and dandy, however, the machine takes an "East" indication when it really should be "West.

    I don't know if that will make it impossible to receive the signal.

    Anyway, I also tried the trick of trying to program it as 43.1 + 176 = 219.1 as SatcoDX does sometimes in their publication, however, my machine will not take numbers that high, so I guess that is not the problem.


    Anyway I have retured to factory set up, rebooted, and nothing else seems to solve that particular problem.

    What do you think?

    Should I still be able to receive it?

    duh . . .

    or not?

    Well I managed to get the responders in there according to Lyngsat -- well, at least the ones that we are supposed to receive here.

    Any tips?

    That's all on this one.

    Thanks.

    -d

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    Quote Originally Posted by delsat View Post
    Is anybody getting Roma Uno or other Italian Channels on 43.1 West?

    Anybody in Arizona that monitors this site?

    This sat is located at about 8.7 degrees above the horizon here and is likely obstructed for me.

    I'm in Arizona and really sad I can't get 30 West.

    Anyway as the satellite was not programmed into my machine at the factory, , I had to program it.

    That is all fine and dandy, however, the machine takes an "East" indication when it really should be "West.

    I don't know if that will make it impossible to receive the signal.

    Anyway, I also tried the trick of trying to program it as 43.1 + 176 = 219.1 as SatcoDX does sometimes in their publication, however, my machine will not take numbers that high, so I guess that is not the problem.


    Anyway I have retured to factory set up, rebooted, and nothing else seems to solve that particular problem.

    What do you think?

    Should I still be able to receive it?

    duh . . .

    or not?

    Well I managed to get the responders in there according to Lyngsat -- well, at least the ones that we are supposed to receive here.

    Any tips?

    That's all on this one.

    Thanks.

    -d

    An 8.7 deg elevation is getting down to where it's going to be difficult. Yeah, it's above the horizon, but generally sats less than 10 deg are very hard to pick up, due to noise. Also, if you have one of the little dish motors, it may not move that far. If you have a fairly big dish, ie more resolution and more gain, there would be a chance, but if you have a little dish, I'm guessing that you're going to have a very hard time. It's possible though. I've picked up signals from sats that low, but reception is generally poor at best.

    You should be able to enter a W into your receiver. What receiver are you using? I think with the Fortec receivers, after you enter the longitude, you hit a right arrow, and it changes E to W, but with other receivers, I don't know.

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    What Receiver am I using?

    Thanks for writing.

    Okay, I'm using a [removed] special:

    A Skyview RX-600.

    Like I don't know if they still sell them as such, but they have similar units on their website for the same price. Just look for the cheapest ones.

    I don't know if I paid $89.oo or $99.oo.

    It has been working very well, though.

    This is the biggest glitch I have run into because I haven't had to post many satellites or transponders before.

    Like I didn't know I could do it by hand. Like I didn't think it would be that easy.

    Anyway, I guess there is a magazine with a disk in it --

    duh --

    and you can program it that way.

    Like that might be the way to go,

    neh?

    I think they sell them at Sadoun.

    It sounds a little weird, but I guess I can do it.

    Yes. This one also programs "W" and "E" with the right and left arrow.

    . . .

    and it appears to work

    . . .

    and then I press the "ok"

    duh . . .

    and it doesn't work.

    And then I go to my Usals (the only place where my location is supposed to be posted)

    And my system is stationary anyway, so it really shouldn't matter.

    And I reprogram my location to a 112 W location -- as if that would have anything to do with it . . .


    And I still can't get a "W" in my satellite 43.1 satellite program.

    You know, and then I reboot, and reset to factory and so on.

    Well, I have examined the manuals from some other machines online -- and my system is very similar . . .

    You know except for extra bells and whisles . . . and conditional access modules (which shouldn't matter for FTA).

    So I can't tell much difference.

    Although I realize that at sometime I may have to get another receiver . . .

    Not because it's better . . .

    just so much as being different . . .

    You know, help me out with my occasional glitches, etc.

    Okay, that's all on this one.

    Bye.

    -d
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    I was receiving it untill the trees started leafing out then i lost that sat untill winter comes arround again.
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    I get the Italian stations on 43.0 West. I also happen to live in Chicago area so I am alot further East than you.
    Puglia - Roma Uno - Veneto Free- Challenger Tv - etc.

    You said your dish was stationary , so the fact that you can't enter West for your position shouldn't matter , if you had it motorized that be different.

    Do You have (LOS) Line of Sight ?

    The elevation for that satellite is very low , your dish will look like it's pointing at the ground.

    Interestingly , have you ever thought of making a ghetto dish motor that is powered by hand , once you get the mast aimed correctly the dish will hit all sats by just turning the dish by hand, of course you need to have LOS.

    What is your dish currently aimed at and what is the satellite furthest east from you that you have been able to get.
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    Hi,

    I thought those European sats (around 50 deg West or so ) aim their signal to Europe, so how can someone from North America pick up those sats?

    Just curious...
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    Quote Originally Posted by be236 View Post
    Hi,

    I thought those European sats (around 50 deg West or so ) aim their signal to Europe, so how can someone from North America pick up those sats?

    Just curious...
    some of the transponders beam a signal to North America.

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    How can someone from North American pick up those sats?

    Well, sometimes the Europeans toss us a bone . . .

    -d

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    Quote Originally Posted by delsat View Post
    How can someone from North American pick up those sats?

    Well, sometimes the Europeans toss us a bone . . .

    -d
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    I tried to align my motorized dish to 43.1 W and 30W with no success. I ahve an 80cm dish. I did not get even a faintest signal from either satellite. Not sure if it is a line of site issue or my dish is too small.

    I did get a hit on a 12099 transponder with a 29999 S/R on 43.1. The signal was zero, but the transpnder was somehow found. Could have been a fluke.

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