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    派tv惡性倒閉

    請到商業改進局投訴 如下

    https://odr.bbb.org/odrweb/public/GetStarted.aspx

    通知大家加入申訴行列, 才有机会得到拿錢回來.

    轉載於世界日報 06/23/2007

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    商家惡性倒閉 討錢有方法
    向消費者事務局投訴 投訴人愈多 錢拿回來機會愈高

    【本報記者林芷妘洛杉磯報導】近期許多惡性倒閉公司團體,欺騙消費者預繳月費等手
    段,事後卻關門大吉、人去樓空。消費者可透過洛杉磯縣消費者事務局(LA County
    Department of Consumer Affairs)或商業改進局(Better Business Bu-reau)
    等管道投訴,只要投訴人數愈多,案件會愈快進行處理,運氣好,被騙的錢還可拿回來。

    許多民眾、包括拉斯維加斯的華人紛紛向本報投訴衛星電視「派TV」不明原因中斷訊號
    多日,服務專線也無人接聽;同時間內,在亞凱迪亞市也有一跆拳道館假藉停課兩週名
    義,無預警下人去樓空。許多華人受騙卻不知如何應對。

    「消費者行動」代表張毓潔也指出,近期有許多民眾抱怨手機行以各種方式欺騙消費者
    預繳費用等,但事後卻惡性倒閉,不但錢要不回來,連手機都無法使用。

    張毓潔表示,由於惡性倒閉案件層出不窮,民眾應隨時提高警覺,付費或簽約前先透過
    「商業改進局」網站(www.bbb.com)查詢公司資訊和信用;另外,英文不好的民眾在簽約前需請通英文的親友幫忙查看合約 內容。

    洛杉磯消費者事務局主任賀羅那(Pastor Herrera Jr.)指出,許多詐騙案或惡性倒閉
    案件多源自不肖廠商,利用新移民不懂英文,以英文且繁雜合約欺騙消費者。他指出,
    實際上,華人消費者有權要求簽約廠商以「中文」書寫合約,此外,簽名前請懂法律的
    朋友、社會法律服務機構或消費者事務局,事先確定合約內容。

    賀羅那表示,消費者若遇廠商惡性倒閉而損失金錢,可透過電話(800-593-8222)、
    電子郵件或到洛杉磯消費者事務局辦公室洽詢,並在網(consumer-affairs.co.la.ca.
    us)上下載「抱怨表格」(Complaint Form)。

    他強調,抱怨表格只能用英文填寫,若華人消費者不懂英文,可透過專線請中文專員協
    助,或請親友幫忙。此外,同一抱怨事件,愈多抱怨信件對調查事件有正面幫助。

    張毓潔指出,在「消費者行動」網站(www.consumer-action.org)也有投訴書表格,可透過熱線213-624-8327向專人請教書寫方式。

    由於洛杉磯消費者事務局只處理縣內居民抱怨事件,因此,戶籍不在洛杉磯縣的消費者
    ,則需透過當地的消費者事務局或商業改進局投訴。

    2007-06-23

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    Quote Originally Posted by su123 View Post
    Does anyone know how to convert the Dish from Pi TV for FTA watching? Is there chinese program as well? What equipment do I need and how to set it up? How is the quality of the picture? Help, I am going crazy with out my TV.
    It all depends. What is the size of your dish? You need to re-aim your dish to either G3C, IA5, or SatMex6 for chinese programming. In all likelyhood, you probably can get free chinese tv from your equipment.
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    80 cm Fortec dish, Invacom LNB, SM3D12 Fortec Classic NA receiver.

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    Quote Originally Posted by su123 View Post
    Does anyone know how to convert the Dish from Pi TV for FTA watching? Is there chinese program as well? What equipment do I need and how to set it up? How is the quality of the picture? Help, I am going crazy with out my TV.
    If your receiver can move a motor, then I would suggest you buy a motor. This will you the most FTA chinese programming. You may have to move your dish to a location where you have a clear view of the southern sky. The picture quality is excellent, digital, but not high def. This part depends on the broadcaster too. If your receiver cannot move a motor, then you might want to consider adding a LNB bracket and another LNB, this way you can get content from 2 different satellites with one fixed dish.

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    The receiver is proprietary like DishNetworks , with program guide,timer recording. Unless someone writes a program, you are out of luck.

    The dish itself is OK for FTA.

    I think you all have a good chance get your money back. Prediwave had hundreds million $ in the bank when it filed bankruptcy. My subscription has ran out so I won't be filing. Just curious, what happens to customers who paid after the bankruptcy, many moons ago ?

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    [quote=stevesc;47953]The receiver is proprietary like DishNetworks , with program guide,timer recording. Unless someone writes a program, you are out of luck.

    It doesn't hurt to try. Just re-aim your dish and see what you get

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    heh

    [quote=William Eng;47954]
    Quote Originally Posted by stevesc View Post
    The receiver is proprietary like DishNetworks , with program guide,timer recording. Unless someone writes a program, you are out of luck.

    It doesn't hurt to try. Just re-aim your dish and see what you get
    Nice answer William...

    Yeah, since I dont have the special PiTV receiver, I'm gonna guess it is proprietary and wont be able to receive regular FTA channels... maybe someone knows more about this can elaborate.. (heh)...

    But of course, we're pretty sure the dish can be re-used for FTA.
    Fortec 80cm dish, Univ LNB.
    Fortec Classic NA
    Captiveworks 600S Premium.
    C-band 10ft dish, with Echostar 4000 IRD.

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    Here's another idea. Take your Pi receiver to someone who has a working FTA setup. Switch out the receivers and see if you can still get a picture on your tv. You might have to change some setting if the receiver lets you.

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    That's a good idea... However, it might even be simplier to understand your PiTV receiver menus and see if there is any way to change your settings, such as LNB type, frequency values, etc... If you have no way to change these simple settings, then most likely you cant just point to any FTA satellite to pick those channels up...

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    No and no. Tried it on my G3C system. The Pi box just shows Pitv screen. Can't change nothing.

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    Yeah, I kinda figured that... So basically at least you can still use the dish (it's about 80cm I would guess)... you would just need to get a FTA receiver, which is cheap these days... I've seen some as low as $80.

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