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Old 03-01-2007, 05:03 PM
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New Channel / TP or wrong sat ?

I pointed my dish to Anik E2R 111.1W but I can not find the right sat or info. See notes below.

The dish actual possition is dirt close to 110W maybe max 5 deg east or west of 110W.

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TP11831 V SymB 7300 V-Pid 257 A-Pid 258 P-Pid 257 FEC 2/3
Level 58%
Quality 50%
(1 channel "Beauty RX" or CH1) Womens makup training for face beauty.

Strong signal / quality on
11831 Green V 7300 Q=50% FEC 2/3
11990 Red V 19510 Q=54% FEC = any all the same
12050 Red V 19510 Q=58% FEC = any all the same

Other active TP's RED
11728 H
11715 V
11850 H
11867 V
11880 H
11898 V
11928 V
11959 V
11972 H
11889 V
12002 H
12020 V
12033 H
12063 H
12081 V
12094 H
12111 V
12124 H
12142 V
12155 H
12172 V
12185 H

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Notes: (90cm KU)
Also I can not remember resetting the orriginal 95W as Zero to my 110W location to be Zero. So I checked 15Deg east / west of 111.1W.
I checked lyngsat / satcodx from 93W to 129W and could not find this TP.

PS> I tried several close by other satellites and settings to scan = nothing no actual satellite lock only 1 channel.

Thanks for the help.

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Old 03-01-2007, 05:36 PM
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I pointed my dish to Anik E2R 111.1W but I can not find the right sat or info. See notes below.

The dish actual possition is dirt close to 110W maybe max 5 deg east or west of 110W.

@@@@@@@@@
TP11831 V SymB 7300 V-Pid 257 A-Pid 258 P-Pid 257 FEC 2/3
Level 58%
Quality 50%
(1 channel "Beauty RX" or CH1) Womens makup training for face beauty.

Strong signal / quality on
11831 Green V 7300 Q=50% FEC 2/3
11990 Red V 19510 Q=54% FEC = any all the same
12050 Red V 19510 Q=58% FEC = any all the same

Other active TP's RED
11728 H
11715 V
11850 H
11867 V
11880 H
11898 V
11928 V
11959 V
11972 H
11889 V
12002 H
12020 V
12033 H
12063 H
12081 V
12094 H
12111 V
12124 H
12142 V
12155 H
12172 V
12185 H

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Notes: (90cm KU)
Also I can not remember resetting the orriginal 95W as Zero to my 110W location to be Zero. So I checked 15Deg east / west of 111.1W.
I checked lyngsat / satcodx from 93W to 129W and could not find this TP.

PS> I tried several close by other satellites and settings to scan = nothing no actual satellite lock only 1 channel.

Thanks for the help.
As usual, I'm not quite sure what you're asking or saying. Ie other than the channel you say you're receiving, I'm not sure if you're saying that those transponders scanned in or if you tried to enter them manually or what. I'm not able to go to that sat right now, but I think the one channel you mentioned getting is in fact on that sat. Most of the transponders on that sat are DCII any you can't tune them, however there are a couple DVB transponders, and I think you found one of them, and in fact one that isn't listed in Lyngsat, and because of that, this should be discussed in New Finds, not here.
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Old 03-01-2007, 06:29 PM
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Sorry Old British and German method of thinking / brains / training / old school bad habbits.
Tea versus Coffee
Korn Suryp versus Honey and/or Brown sugar from cane sugar plant.

*1:
Question was as usuall
Q = " New channel / New TP / Wrong Sat " ??
Q = Did anyone stumble on this or know what is going on ?
Q = Suggestions about info I mentioned ??

"Anyone of the general Q's that might relate or suggestions"

*2:
1 And only 1 channel found on and saved on "Satellite Unknown" = CH1 or as shown on the tv screen once during viewing = "Beauty RX" might just be an add for something not sure.

CH1=label for channel. (statement)

*3:
When using 107.3W Anik and browsing the TP so I do not have to enter them/TP's again I looked and found ones with signal / quality but RED. Had correct tp info.

*4: ( reasoning / thought's )
If I was on the correct satellite of the 15 I tried then I would have had more GREEN TP's as this receiver is not bothered about encryption while scanning Tp's but only when the channel is saved and one wants to watch that channel = locked = needs sim card OR/ FTA = no problem.

*5:
Red OTHER tp's found = while browsing Tp's they had signal / quality but red = not correct satellite , TP info is current in receiver and correct / upto date for each sat.
I do not have all satellites listed as in Lyngsat.

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I'm not able to go to that sat right now, but I think the one channel you mentioned getting is in fact on that sat. Most of the transponders on that sat are DCII any you can't tune them, however there are a couple DVB transponders, and I think you found one of them, and in fact one that isn't listed in Lyngsat, and because of that.
""""

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I think so too or I have a error.

I would have liked to post it in NEW Finds as you mentioned but not sure IF it is a "NEW find" Or my Incompatence / ERROR of mine.

Once I can establish if it is correct then I will aproach "New Finds" if they are interested and supply them with the info otherwise I will be informed that I should list it in "New Installation Problems". until correct info is established.

Heck not even sure if I can post in New Finds / not bothered.
I was asking for assistance with info / fix / correction / suggestions to my current lack of information.

Surely this is a forum where we DISCUSS things / errors until sure it is fact and then make it permanent for future use as refferance.


Hope this translation help's , I have been spoiled with having to suck a "Cold Fusion Reactor" in 5min.s out of my thumb and the staff that worked with me was on the same brain wave as I or having to build a small town like Los Vegas in 18 months in the middle of the ocean and then still build the island in the ocean it needs to be on in the same 18 months time. If only I was a bit more compatent I could fix this error myself.
Darn bad / poor education in my past. Sorry fixing my education.

My brain runs at it own pace Sorry still trying to adapt.

Either way thanks for the help , will see if I can find my error and correct it.
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Old 03-01-2007, 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by WarraWarra View Post
Sorry Old British and German method of thinking / brains / training / old school bad habbits.
Tea versus Coffee
Korn Suryp versus Honey and/or Brown sugar from cane sugar plant.

*1:
Question was as usuall
Q = " New channel / New TP / Wrong Sat " ??
Q = Did anyone stumble on this or know what is going on ?
Q = Suggestions about info I mentioned ??

"Anyone of the general Q's that might relate or suggestions"

*2:
1 And only 1 channel found on and saved on "Satellite Unknown" = CH1 or as shown on the tv screen once during viewing = "Beauty RX" might just be an add for something not sure.

CH1=label for channel. (statement)

*3:
When using 107.3W Anik and browsing the TP so I do not have to enter them/TP's again I looked and found ones with signal / quality but RED. Had correct tp info.

*4: ( reasoning / thought's )
If I was on the correct satellite of the 15 I tried then I would have had more GREEN TP's as this receiver is not bothered about encryption while scanning Tp's but only when the channel is saved and one wants to watch that channel = locked = needs sim card OR/ FTA = no problem.

*5:
Red OTHER tp's found = while browsing Tp's they had signal / quality but red = not correct satellite , TP info is current in receiver and correct / upto date for each sat.
I do not have all satellites listed as in Lyngsat.

"""
I'm not able to go to that sat right now, but I think the one channel you mentioned getting is in fact on that sat. Most of the transponders on that sat are DCII any you can't tune them, however there are a couple DVB transponders, and I think you found one of them, and in fact one that isn't listed in Lyngsat, and because of that.
""""

Remark on statement:
I think so too or I have a error.

I would have liked to post it in NEW Finds as you mentioned but not sure IF it is a "NEW find" Or my Incompatence / ERROR of mine.

Once I can establish if it is correct then I will aproach "New Finds" if they are interested and supply them with the info otherwise I will be informed that I should list it in "New Installation Problems". until correct info is established.

Heck not even sure if I can post in New Finds / not bothered.
I was asking for assistance with info / fix / correction / suggestions to my current lack of information.

Surely this is a forum where we DISCUSS things / errors until sure it is fact and then make it permanent for future use as refferance.


Hope this translation help's , I have been spoiled with having to suck a "Cold Fusion Reactor" in 5min.s out of my thumb and the staff that worked with me was on the same brain wave as I or having to build a small town like Los Vegas in 18 months in the middle of the ocean and then still build the island in the ocean it needs to be on in the same 18 months time. If only I was a bit more compatent I could fix this error myself.
Darn bad / poor education in my past. Sorry fixing my education.

My brain runs at it own pace Sorry still trying to adapt.

Either way thanks for the help , will see if I can find my error and correct it.
Thanks for the explanation, but I'm still confused re whether that long list of "other active TPs red" actually scanned in with a blind scan, or if those transponders were already in the receiver's transponder list. As I mentioned before, most of the transponders in that list are digicipher transponders. You might get signal strength, but you should never get quality, and most of the receivers I've used will not scan them in at all.
I can't remember what receiver you have, but I'd be interested if it in fact scanned in those transponders. NONE of the transponders listed in Lyngsat should give you green, because none of them are DVB. Lyngsat doesn't list ANY channels that you should be able to receive on the Ku side of that sat.


Re new finds, don't worry about whether or not it is really new, the new finds is still the best place to discuss anything that doesn't appear in Lyngsat, whether it's a mistake or real.
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Old 03-01-2007, 08:08 PM
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Red OTHER tp's found = while browsing Tp's they had signal / quality but red = not correct satellite , TP info is current in receiver and correct / upto date for each sat.

*3: previous to last message.
When using 107.3W Anik and browsing the TP so I do not have to enter them/TP's again I looked and found ones with signal / quality but RED. Had correct tp info.

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Message starts here: qouted above @@@ signs.

Using Anik ? at 107.3W I did:
This Red Other Tp's is from Anik ? at 107.3W.
Method = TP press button right to go from 11990 to 12005 each with it's own settings h or v etc.
Changes is almost instant and show's new level and Quality for each.

All TP's listed in OTHER list = LEVEL + QUALITY of minm.40% or higher if on Ku band and TP is correct.

Only thing I can NOT scan is if the TP's are not listed or C-band as I do not have C-band.

My receiver:
Spacestar 700s with sim card slot.

This receiver can do ku/c band capable , can scan anything and then list channels if it has a TP.

Channels:
Can or can not access channels depending if encrypted or FTA.

FTA = Viewing.
Encrypted = Not Viewing locked.

It is okay forget about it , this sytem is going to the trash can / rubish bin in any case in less than a month.
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Old 03-01-2007, 08:10 PM
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New Channel / TP or wrong sat ?

anyway, so is there anything there or not? most of that went over my head.
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Old 03-02-2007, 08:49 AM
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The only thing I can make out from the above is that he found one DVB channel on Anik F2, and can't understand why he isn't receiving other channels, however most of the other channels are DCII, so they aren't receivable.

I still am not sure whether he's doing a blind scan or a satellite scan of existing transponders. I THINK it is a satellite scan, but I don't understand why the Anik F1r sat is involved here, because I thought that the dish was aimed at F2.

But in any event, nothing unusual here. A channel found on F2, and lots of DCII channels that don't lock. Just what would be expected.
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