what's up with the spam

rainman · #1 (**permalink**) 12-15-2006, 06:38 AM

what's up with all the spam post's this is very aggravating.

Iceberg · #2 (**permalink**) 12-15-2006, 08:49 AM

just zapped them all

rainman · #3 (**permalink**) 12-15-2006, 11:39 AM

thank's ICE appreciate it.

Admin · #4 (**permalink**) 12-15-2006, 02:20 PM

Maybe after reporting their IP address 204.16.125.44 to their ISPs they will quit? What do you think?

rainman · #5 (**permalink**) 12-15-2006, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Admin

Maybe after reporting their IP address to their ISPs they will quit? What do you think?

try anything to get rid of the aggravation.

pmb1010 · #6 (**permalink**) 12-15-2006, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Admin

Maybe after reporting their IP address to their ISPs they will quit? What do you think?

I realise the messages were posted by some knucklehead looking to make a quick buck, but this really wasn't spam, as someone had to login and post those messages here in the forums.

Insofar as real spam, reporting to ISP won't work in the real world. The issues with real spam is they use "throw away" addresses. They'll sign up for DSL somewhere, send out a billion messages, and walk away from the account. By the time anyone gets around to reporting them, the office is literally cleaned out. Another ploy that's used is they bounce a few messages off known open relay hosts. Just enough (5 or 10 messages) to not cause an alarm at the host being used, then move on to new host. Rinse. Repeat.

The spammers are very clever. They send graphic images of the spam message, with some baloney miscellaneous words & text wrapped around it to throw off spam filters. The graphic image changes 1 pixel each time, so you can't checksum the graphic.

This spam situation is really getting out of hand. Of the 200,000 inbound messages last month at our company, 80 percent is spam. Of the 20 percent that got by the filters, I suspect half that is also spam.

elgemcdlf · #7 (**permalink**) 12-15-2006, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by pmb1010

I realise the messages were posted by some knucklehead looking to make a quick buck, but this really wasn't spam, as someone had to login and post those messages here in the forums.

Insofar as real spam, reporting to ISP won't work in the real world. The issues with real spam is they use "throw away" addresses. They'll sign up for DSL somewhere, send out a billion messages, and walk away from the account. By the time anyone gets around to reporting them, the office is literally cleaned out. Another ploy that's used is they bounce a few messages off known open relay hosts. Just enough (5 or 10 messages) to not cause an alarm at the host being used, then move on to new host. Rinse. Repeat.

The spammers are very clever. They send graphic images of the spam message, with some baloney miscellaneous words & text wrapped around it to throw off spam filters. The graphic image changes 1 pixel each time, so you can't checksum the graphic.

This spam situation is really getting out of hand. Of the 200,000 inbound messages last month at our company, 80 percent is spam. Of the 20 percent that got by the filters, I suspect half that is also spam.

Actually the login portion has nothing to do with it. They did not "login" and post individual msgs. The msgs were ran in rotation and sent to the list writing in the login portion to the script is really no big deal at all.

elgemcdlf · #8 (**permalink**) 12-15-2006, 03:19 PM

OrgName: Local Communications Networks, Inc.
OrgID: LCN-4
Address: 105 Executive Drive
Address: Suite 100-A
City: Sterling
StateProv: VA
PostalCode: 20164
Country: US

OrgAbuseHandle: JHO109-ARIN
OrgAbuseName: Hogendobler, Joel
OrgAbusePhone: +1-703-668-1146
OrgAbuseEmail: joel@lcninc.com

Was that proper to post here

boroda1 · #9 (**permalink**) 12-15-2006, 05:08 PM

I spotted several spam messages from "FRANKY..." something. Please, make sure that FRANKIE got banned.
Also, I can advise all the members of this forum do not respond to spammers, and never go to their sites, reply to their messages (actually, I did with words "Stop that spam" last night, but I wil not do it again.) And never ever buy anything from them. That's I beleive can help to fihgt them.
I wanted to report these messages to Bobkat, but did not see any tool on forum to do that. That's a first time I see that crap going, and I think it's just a sign of this forum's "popularity"

bobkat · #10 (**permalink**) 12-15-2006, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by boroda1

...and I think it's just a sign of this forum's "popularity"

HeHeHe... Yeah, I guess that's one way to look at it !! Throw a little positive light on the subject.

kat

bobkat · #11 (**permalink**) 12-15-2006, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by boroda1

I wanted to report these messages to Bobkat, but did not see any tool on forum to do that.

I'm not sure either - but ask rainman - he's got it figured out...

kat

pmb1010 · #12 (**permalink**) 12-15-2006, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by elgemcdlf

Actually the login portion has nothing to do with it. They did not "login" and post individual msgs. The msgs were ran in rotation and sent to the list writing in the login portion to the script is really no big deal at all.

Interesting.

I thought with the new forum software that came online a few months ago, one could read, but not post without an account.

Maybe it should be setup that way...

Sadoun · #13 (**permalink**) 12-15-2006, 07:50 PM

You have to be a memebr and log in to post.

To report a SPAM or a post that violates the rules, use this

button found on the top right hand of any post.

Everyone should be able to see that button. Do you guys see it? I have a moderator status, so I can see it, but not sure if the regular member can. You should be able to see it.

pmb1010 · #14 (**permalink**) 12-15-2006, 08:18 PM

yeah the reporting icon is there on every post.

Sadoun · #15 (**permalink**) 12-15-2006, 08:22 PM

Great. Do you see any other icons there?

elgemcdlf · #16 (**permalink**) 12-15-2006, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by pmb1010

Interesting.

I thought with the new forum software that came online a few months ago, one could read, but not post without an account.

Maybe it should be setup that way...

Ok without getting into all the technicalities yes one would require a login and passwd but that is an easy creation. In fact one could do it with this forum totally automated. It is a computer. A simple matter of true or false. Once one has created this login be it manually or automated it is now the pass into the server. Could also be a forced entry which I assume Sadoun's people are watching for. There is no such thing as hack proof. You can only build something you believe is reasonable deterent for the masses. A perfect example is TRW. Publically stated they were hack proof. Well they were not. It was publically announced by the hacker but by TRW themselves that they had been hacked.