SatcoDX is more accurate because it is updated in Real-time (according to Alex at SatcoDX).
SatcoDX is more accurate because it is updated in Real-time (according to Alex at SatcoDX).
Rainman's Equipment
Undien 4600,DSR 922, Fortec Ultra, Satworks 3618, Sathawk pvr 800,Openbox S9
2 Fortec Mercury II, Fortec Classic NA, DVB World USB 2104D,Pansat 4500PVR
8.5' Orbitron polar C Ku dish, 8.5' Birdview HH C Ku dish
100cm Fortec dish, 90cm Fortec dish
2 DG-240 HH motors, Co Rotor II feed horn
Norsat 8515 C band lnb, Norsat 4506A Ku lnb
BSC-621-2 Lnbf, Invacom QPH-031 Lnbf
Invacom SNH-031 Lnbf, Fortec Fsku-v universal Lnbf
V-Box, G-box
Getting the SatcoDx software may not be a walk in the park. The site for the download has been down for at least a couple of days.
Fortec dish 31" mercury II sq2100
I'm going to have to show this to my wife. She thinks I'm nuts just because I started the hobby this past spring and now have 4 Ku-Band dishes, 3 C-Band dishes, 6 receivers, 2 satellite pci cards, at least 1000ft of RG6 + misc switches/diseqc/splitters/etc drug through conduit in the yard/basement (not to mention the handful of dishes and receivers I've drug home and setup for friends/church members). I have absolutely NOTHING on this labgate guy!
I like to shop at Sadoun Satellite Sales
Dishes: 2 Primestar 75E, 2 Fortec 90cm, 2 10ft, 7.5ft
Motors: 2 SG2100, SkyJack 24" & 36" actuators
Movers: 2 VBoxII
LNB(f)s: Invacom qph-031, Primestar, dual/single ku, BSC621,Geosat dual C-Band, 2 Polarotor, Corotor
DVB Receivers/cards: 2 Fortec Classic NA, 2 Dreambox 500-s, SatPros DSR-550s, Digiwave DG7000, Lava 3200, Pansat 2500a, Viewsat Ultra, Twinhan 102g
Analog: Zenith 1000, GI 2400
Re SatCodX vs Lyngsat.... just my opinion, but...
I used to use SatCodX years ago, and back then, it was the only thing around of it's kind, and I liked it. But in my opinion, at least the last time I visited the site, it is hopelessly out of date, and/or just plane inaccurate. Personally, I wouldn't waste my time with SatCodx. I haven't checked out SatCodx for a few months, but the last time I did, it didn't even come close to Lyngsat for accuracy. I know that Lyngsat sometimes takes a few days to get information updated, but that is good, because the guy who runs it checks things out. I've only submitted one item to Lyngsat, and I made a typo in the submission, and he came back and asked if I really meant what I typed. Last time I went to SatCodx, there were things listed that were probably 6 to 8 months out of date. It may be updated real time, but that doesn't do any good if the information isn't correct. The only problem with Lyngsat, is that it is dependent on hobbiests to submit info, and many of the more knowledgeable hobbiests don't submit info because they use other databases, and many of the people who do submit info don't always have the hardware necessary to submit accurate info. That being said though, lyngsat, is quite accurate for 95% of the transponders I've looked at.
The one good thing about SatCodx is that it is set up to work as a database, and some receivers are set up to accept data from their format. If you have a new receiver, which might have obsolete data in it's memory, then it MIGHT be advantageous to start out with SatCodx info, but I sure wouldn't waste my time with it..... unless it has changed greatly since the last time I visited the site.
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Before posting this, I decided to do a quick check. I went to one sat that I know Lyngsat doesn't have a clue. SatCodx is even worse. This sat has at least 15 or so strong transponders visible to North America on Ku, of which Lyngsat shows about 9, and about 4 of those 8 are mis-identified. SatCodx shows 5, 2 of which were bogus. Both are missing a FTA channel on one of the well known muxes. On the C-band side, Lyngsat correctly showed two very valuable muxes that have been FTA for a few months. SatCodx did not show either one.
I went to another satellite where there is a mux that has been there for years, that is usually encrypted, but occasionally goes FTA. Lyngsat had the correct info for the ~7 channels in the mux. SatCodx just said "feeds", and had one set of A/V PIDs, which weren't correct for any of the channels in the mux.
I didn't bother checking out anything else. As far as I'm concerned, Satcodx is hopelessly inaccurate.
Last edited by wejones; 09-26-2007 at 09:00 AM.
Bill
When I talked to SatcoDX, thoy mentioned that their North America data is not complete because of lack of input. However, they assured me that their European and other regions data is accurate and process more mature.
That's exactly what I stated earlier, and is, unfortunately, a bad news for NA users. We can't see far enough east for most of the European satellites (only a few Atlantic ones).
I don't know if there are any SatcoDX-compatible receivers offered in North America. There are plenty in Europe, where it does make sense.
I'm hesitant to say in the open forum, but it is a sat where Lyngsat shows a bunch of south american transponders, but only lists a few of the north american transponders, most not DVB, if that helps.
I just ran into another example of SatCodx problems. I just went to G26. Nebraska PBS has been there for about 9 months, both DCII and DVB. No mention of either. And yet they show PBS-X analog on transponder 8. I can't remember the exact date, but it's been well over a year since PBS was on that satellite.
I don't know about the accuracy re European sats, since we can't see those from here. Re SatCodx capable receivers, I know that with my Fortec Lifetime and Ultra, you could upload SatCodx files into the channel editor, and then into the receiver. I don't think the Mercury does this, mainly because the channel editor is next to worthless. But I've read about several other north american receivers that used SatCodx data. Too bad it isn't more accurate here. Also too bad that Lyngsat isn't useable as a database. One time I spent a whole lot of time with some programs extracting data from Lyngsat, for my own use, but then they changed format a bit. They seem to be making a conscious effort to make it hard to automate data extraction from their site.
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